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I can only assume those first two parts were not aimed at me3. Well, fun idea, we could establish some evidence that shows Darkrai to be the representative of the fourth generation by fact.
4. Well, fun fact: Lucario's movie came first. So why does Darkrai rule out that? Why can't Lucario be the fourth gen representative or use the movie argument and say that Darkrai can't use either because he was the rep. first?
5. Yeah - I'm pretty sure generic doesn't mean "unique entry in a Pokémon species".
6. Mewtwo is arguably the second most popular Pokémon in the entire series, and was the strongest until D/P.
7. Because he's the most powerful? Legendary is a term used for any Pokémon of incredible strength, and your semantics aren't needed here. In the original game, he's treated as nothing less than the ultimate Pokémon. Darkrai isn't the ultimate Pokémon, but he's still a legendary.
I have no idea what you're even talking about any more, but the fact that they are both from the 4th gen and have movies cancels each other out. On those grounds, each is no better than the other.Yeah, that makes sense. I guess Lucario can't be the rep. solely because he's not from the fourth gen.
O wate - he is!
No, you're the one saying that. That since Darkrai was in a movie last and was relevant to DP last, Lucario can't be in.
Well they both have about the same in the anime, since its only the movies. In the games though, Darkrai does have more importance, since Lucario's just a standard pokemon.You were the one who presented those shoddy arguments, that Darkrai's role in the game and the anime are so much more important.
Well they are tied on almost everything but status, and since Darkrai's got better status (oh, and moveset pottential) he's pretty much the better choice all around. =/But if Darkrai only has "as much as Lucario", what makes him "definitely" the better choice?
You're the one who brought up advertisment, as something Lucario had, and now it's not relivant? Wait, you say it is right below... And you got it wrong about Lucario's movie as well, since it's really about Mew, and there are the Regis who also costar in it. And Munchlax falls under the same lines as far as advertisment goes, and he's a pokeball pokemon. =/And that doesn't MATTER! You, like many other people here, randomly apply the "you can't use that argument because this character didn't get in for that reason". Mewtwo wasn't advertised? That's amazing(ly irrelevant to this conversation). Mewtwo got in for a different reason, because he was the best known. However, Lucario is and has been heavily advertised, got his own movie (notice that Darkrai is not the sole star of his movie, but Lucario is?), and was revealed alongside the starters, several Pokémon found early in the game, and last-gen evolutions/pre-evos. There's no reason to assume that they aren't trying to advertise him, since the only logical reason to have revealed him was to advertise him.
We already have standard pokemon, so Lucario's not filling your niche. We also have two turtles. We have two plumbers. We have two primates. And by how you are defining Lucario, then Darkrai is also unique as he's a Dark type who can use Dark Pulse, Dark Void, Double Team, Dream Eater, Giga Impact, ect. The fact that Mewtwo is a ultimate pokemon doesn't exclude the others. In fact it's better to use unique pokemon than average ones.So basically, the only way that Darkrai can fill the niche is if you mince words and try to squeeze him in? Legendary is a term used for ultimate Pokémon in the games. That's all it's used for. Period. Being a piece OF legend does not make him fill a niche, he's still a legendary Pokémon, and Mewtwo is too. Darkrai is an "ultimate" Pokémon that would float and shoot energy attacks. Mewtwo is an ultimate Pokémon that floats and shoots energy attacks. Why would Darkrai fit better than Lucario, who is not an ultimate Pokémon, but is a steel/fighting type who can use Giga Impact, Focus Punch, Close Combat, Aura Sphere, The elemental punches, etc.?
1. Darkrai would represent the 4th gen, but not as well. He's not known outside of Japan, and requires the player to know the anime in order to get it. Lucario, however, an easy-to-complete quest in a not-so-out-of-the-way area gives you Rulio's egg. The fact that Lucario was featured in so many promotions by Nintendo, many more than Darkrai was. The fact that Darkrai was made available through his movie and Lucario wasn't was because people could already get him.I have no idea what you're even talking about any more, but the fact that they are both from the 4th gen and have movies cancels each other out. On those grounds, each is no better than the other.
Well they both have about the same in the anime, since its only the movies. In the games though, Darkrai does have more importance, since Lucario's just a standard pokemon.
Well they are tied on almost everything but status, and since Darkrai's got better status (oh, and moveset pottential) he's pretty much the better choice all around. =/
You're the one who brought up advertisment, as something Lucario had, and now it's not relivant? Wait, you say it is right below... And you got it wrong about Lucario's movie as well, since it's really about Mew, and there are the Regis who also costar in it. And Munchlax falls under the same lines as far as advertisment goes, and he's a pokeball pokemon. =/
We already have standard pokemon, so Lucario's not filling your niche. We also have two turtles. We have two plumbers. We have two primates. And by how you are defining Lucario, then Darkrai is also unique as he's a Dark type who can use Dark Pulse, Dark Void, Double Team, Dream Eater, Giga Impact, ect. The fact that Mewtwo is a ultimate pokemon doesn't exclude the others. In fact it's better to use unique pokemon than average ones.
Seriously man, stop trying to argue if you can't rationlize your thoughts.
Not so, GP. Mostly everyone knows him, even if they don't keep up with the anime. It's only people who really don't care about Pokemon, who in turn wouldn't care about Lucario. In fact, he could be used as promotional material when the movie gets released here. And heck in Japan, where the game's being made, there's no chance he's unknown. And Togepi is just like what you're describing Lucario, man. And we all know Togepi's status. Munchlax too. In anycase, Darkrai is still more recent. Heck, promoting Lucario now would be like promoting Blaziken.1. Darkrai would represent the 4th gen, but not as well. He's not known outside of Japan, and requires the player to know the anime in order to get it. Lucario, however, an easy-to-complete quest in a not-so-out-of-the-way area gives you Rulio's egg. The fact that Lucario was featured in so many promotions by Nintendo, many more than Darkrai was. The fact that Darkrai was made available through his movie and Lucario wasn't was because people could already get him.
Just like Darkrai is now, GP.2. Jigglypuff doesn't have importance, but got in because he is popular and was promoted somewhat by Nintendo.
Like Munchlax. Really man, you're not getting this. He's just a common Pokemon, even with promotion. Darkrai though has just as much promotion now, but also with the bonus of being a legendary with unique properties. Lucario would be what...some type of Fox clone with Mewtwo moves?3. Like I said several times - Nintendo promoted Lucario for a reason. It wasn't because he was a common Pokémon, it wasn't because he was a starter, it wasn't because he was a legendary, it was because they wanted him to be well-known, and he DID become well-known. Darkrai was not promoted nearly as well.
Don't know what you're talking about here, GP. In anycase, the point is that Darkrai has the same amount of promotion due to the movie, so this type of thing is null.4. It doesn't have to be applied to everything! Just because no one got in because of their prominence in advertising does not mean that I cannot use it! It's irrelevant to MEWTWO, so bringing up the lack of advertising for Mewtwo means NOTHING. It is a legitimate argument for Lucario, and if he's the only character in the history of video games that it is relevant to, it can still be used.
Eliwood's not getting in. Bad example GP. Anyways, it's something that hurts but doesn't rally kill. It's just that Darkrai has more, and Lucario has the same as one who couldn't make it. Why is this so hard to understand?5. And? A heavily-advertised fourth generation character not getting in as playable doesn't mean that another heavily-advertised fourth generation character will not get in. That's like saying that because Lyndis is not playable, Eliwood is not either for the reason that if one FE7 lord doesn't get in, none of them will.
We have Samus. Her armor is made fo steel. We have a steel niche. We have Fox who's a anthromorphic fighting Fox, so that niche is also filled. We have a bunch of fighters too. And you really are making everything situational. Is there anything wrong with me saying Mewtwo does not exclude all legendary Pokemon because he wasn't included for the reason that he was legendary? You go on about how Mewtwo is popular. Why isn't that the reason?6. A standard Pokémon is not a "niche". Darkrai already fills the legendary niche and doesn't properly fill the fourth gen niche better than Lucario, who not only fills in a steel niche, but a fighting type niche, neither of which have been done in SSB before. Jigglypuff doesn't represent standard Pokémon, he represents a character who simply was popular. Jigglypuff does not exclude all standard Pokémon because he wasn't included for the reason that he was standard.
7. Why? He's an elemental Pokémon. We have TWO elemental Pokémon already. Why would a third be a better choice? Hell, in fact, the Pokémon Trainer is primarily elemental, so why would an overfilled niche need another instead of giving an underfilled niche another? And on top of that, he doesn't even have a personality. Every Pokémon in the game had significant personality in the anime. Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, and Pichu. However, Darkrai does not have a significant personality - he's basically one of the less expressed legendaries, like Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza/etc. Lucario, however, not only has a unique personality, but is capable of speech. Mewtwo in the game is obviously based on his anime version, with the evil laugh and such. So why couldn't Lucario be based on it?
Right - same as Blaziken. Same as a four year old Pokémon whose relevancy is non-existent. Yup, still advertised, still promoted, but hey, don't let the fact that he's still promoted -UNLIKE DARKRAI- get in the way of a shoddy comparison.Not so, GP. Mostly everyone knows him, even if they don't keep up with the anime. It's only people who really don't care about Pokemon, who in turn wouldn't care about Lucario. In fact, he could be used as promotional material when the movie gets released here. And heck in Japan, where the game's being made, there's no chance he's unknown. And Togepi is just like what you're describing Lucario, man. And we all know Togepi's status. Munchlax too. In anycase, Darkrai is still more recent. Heck, promoting Lucario now would be like promoting Blaziken.
Just like Darkrai is now, GP.
Like Munchlax. Really man, you're not getting this. He's just a common Pokemon, even with promotion. Darkrai though has just as much promotion now, but also with the bonus of being a legendary with unique properties. Lucario would be what...some type of Fox clone with Mewtwo moves?
Don't know what you're talking about here, GP. In anycase, the point is that Darkrai has the same amount of promotion due to the movie, so this type of thing is null.
Eliwood's not getting in. Bad example GP. Anyways, it's something that hurts but doesn't rally kill. It's just that Darkrai has more, and Lucario has the same as one who couldn't make it. Why is this so hard to understand?
We have Samus. Her armor is made fo steel. We have a steel niche. We have Fox who's a anthromorphic fighting Fox, so that niche is also filled. We have a bunch of fighters too. And you really are making everything situational. Is there anything wrong with me saying Mewtwo does not exclude all legendary Pokemon because he wasn't included for the reason that he was legendary? You go on about how Mewtwo is popular. Why isn't that the reason?
We don't have a dark one though. We have loads of punch and kick fighters, but no ghost-like dark users. He had a personality in the movie also. Seriously, don't jump to conclusions GP.
WTF????? It's just common belief. I'm sorry if that offended you but.....WTF???1. Because Link in SSBB has every move that has ever existed in Zelda history.
2. I'm pretty sure he's not gay, and that you are a ******.
Oh your sig made me remember about Mike Jones he was that baseball throwing guy from Star Tropics right? Because if he is i'm changing my list up.
When you do quick replies you have to manualy click a box that says "show signature"That's the guy. :D
What I really don't understand is why this sig pops up some times, and some times it doesn't show up at all! XD
Oh, btw. Keep your eyes open for the VC release of StarTropics. I heard it's coming this month!![]()
:embarrassWhen you do quick replies you have to manualy click a box that says "show signature"
I already said I was not addressing you, I was addressing Tingle!Using gay as an insult makes you an idiot.
That's not me using an insult, that's me saying what kind of person says that.
Mona is the most logical 2nd rep of the Wario Ware series, other than Ashley...Who are Mona and Sami and why should they be in Brawl?
49/50 ain't bad.he could fit!