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Bullied Teen Amanda Todd Leaves Chilling Video

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http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17463266

A teenager posted a heartbreaking video on YouTube chronicling years of bullying in school and online, cutting and humiliation up until she died this week.

Amanda Todd, 15, posted the video called "My story: Struggling, bullying, suicide, self harm" on Sept. 7 and was found dead in her home town of Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, just over a month later.

"Hello, I've decided to tell you about my never ending story," the black and white video begins. Todd can only be seen from her nose down for most of the video, occasionally moving around so that her face is visible. She silently tells her story through a series of white cards with black marker writing on them.

She describes using webcam chats to meet and talk to new people online as a seventh grade student. She said that people told her she was "stunning, beautiful, perfect" and a man pressured her to flash her chest. One year later, she did.

Todd received a Facebook message from a man she did not know saying that if she did not "put on a show" for him, he would send the photo of her chest to everyone. Over Christmas break, Todd said police came to her house at 4 a.m. to tell her that the photo had been sent to everyone.

"I then got really sick and got anxiety, major depression and panic disorders," she wrote. "I then moved and got into drugs and alcohol."

A year after moving, Todd said things were going better until the man on Facebook came back and used the photo of her chest as his profile picture. Todd said she "cried every night, lost all my friends and respect people had for me again."

"I can never get that photo back," she wrote. "It's out there forever."

She described being called names, eating lunch alone and resorting to cutting herself. She also told the story of an incident where she made a "huge mistake" and "hooked up" with a boy at her school who had a girlfriend, but who she believed really liked her.

A week later, she said she received a text message telling her to get out of school and then a group of students, led by the boy's girlfriend, surrounded her at school and said, "Look around, nobody likes you."

"A guy then yelled, 'Just punch her already,' so [the girlfriend] did," Todd wrote. "She threw me to the ground and punched me several times. Kids filmed it. I was all alone and left on the ground."

Todd said she "wanted to die so bad" when her dad found her in a ditch. She drank bleach when she went home and had to be rushed to the hospital to have her stomach pumped, she said.

"After I got home, all I saw was on Facebook--'She deserved it. Did you wash the mud out of your hair? I hope she's dead,'" she wrote.

Todd moved to another school in another city, but said the torture followed her through Facebook. Students posted photos of ditches and suggested she try another bleach.

"Every day, I think, why am I still here?" she asked towards the end of the video. "I'm stuck. What's left of me now? Nothing stops. I have nobody. I need someone. My name is Amanda Todd."

Authorities were called to a residence in Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, just before 6 p.m. on Oct. 10 to investigate the sudden death of the tormented teenager.

While authorities have not officially called the death a suicide, Cpl. Jamie Chung of the Coquitlam Royal Canadian Mounted Police said in a statement, "At this time it has been determined that the teen's death was not suspicious in nature and that foul play was not a factor."

The coroner is investigating the death, police said.

Teenager Documents Bullying and Abuse Before Her Death
Todd said in her video that she did not want to press charges against the girl who beat her up because she ?wanted to move on? when she moved to another city and school.

Police did not immediately respond to ABCNews.com's question whether there was a probe into the man who used Todd's Facebook photo in an effort to exploit her and then made it public.

Todd's family has declined to speak, but Cheryl Quinton, spokeswoman for the Coquitlam School District, told ABCNews.com, "The family was wanting to pass along that several supports were in place for their daughter on the school, home and community levels. There was a lot of intervention and a lot of support. I know that is the message that they want to convey."

Todd was in the tenth grade at the Coquitlam Alternate Basic Education School when she died. School officials would not release the name of her previous school.

Quinton said the death has been "very devastating" to the small school where resources are being provided to students in regards to suicide prevention and bullying.

"We typically, as a school district, don't talk about such deaths but with the family's endorsement we did choose to do so because it is important to point out the dangers associated with social media and cyber-bullying," Quinton said.
I'm sure some or many of you have heard of this by now, and I'm sure we've heard plenty of "child commits suicide over bullying", but this is really getting out of hand. I also saw her video earlier today, and it really is heartbreaking. Yes, bullying has been around since time immemorial, but no matter how one tries to justify its existence, including using arguments that bullying is a form of instinctual dominance, this is a problem that needs to stop.

Wishful thinking, but I wish I could've seen the video much sooner; I would've sent her a message and tried my best to help her cope with this bullying crap.

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Schools just need to have a no tolerance policy, or at least something close to it. But even that doesn't solve everything and is a tough solution that causes a lot of problems. Just adds to the many arguments as to why you can say homeschooling/unschooling (the latter in particular, as I always say) is supremely better if it can be managed properly by a family.
 

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The fact that everyone has so much access to global communication makes this kind of stuff all too possible in today's world.
 

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Unfortunately, cracking down on bullying in schools will do almost nothing to change the fact that people can torment others online via Facebook, YouTube, and other social media online, unless they're willing to police beyond the walls of the schools.

They say that because of incidents such as this, they're (not sure who) going to try to push for making a law that criminalizes cyber bullying, which is fine by me, to be honest.


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It's terrible to read and hear these sorts of stories. It really is. The individual who is responsible for spreading that image of her via facebook needs to be charged and put away in prison not only as a pedophile, but some other form of charges in regards to her bullying and eventual passing away. Basically, he needs to be locked up, and I hope he gets the right "treatment" from his prison mates so he can learn a lesson or two. While I am disgusted at the bullying she suffered, I am even more disgusted that people of authority didn't seem to do much in helping her.

Granted, this article seems to be very "pro" in regards to not mentioning anything that was done to help her aside one statement in the article, and I'm sure her parents tried...

But seriously, what the hell was going on in that school for no teachers or faculty to notice she was being bullied? And what the hell to facebook mods and authorities for not figuring out who the hell this guy was for changing his profile picture to that? I mean, the dude was already violating facebook rules, and I do hope that he gets founded and charged. It's just disgusting that a guy can stoop to such levels.

I might be sounding indecent, but it's at times like these I wish we had an "eye for an eye" justice system. I know in Saudi Arabia's system, this stalker would probably have his penis cut off if not given a capital punishment.

The whole system is messed up. Top to bottom. We definitely need more laws to step up in regards to cyber bullying, real life bullying, but it's honestly bullying is not going to change...

1. Even as teens, we are not fully developed adults and sometimes don't know better. Peer pressure is a big problem.
2. Parents seem to be getting worse and worse when it comes to bringing up their child. We just ignore what they might be doing. Whether it's outside the home, or on the computer. Parents are no longer as in tuned with their kids as they were in past generations.
 

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It's not only terrible to read for me, it's hard. My stomach is incredibly weak to several subjects, some of them being drugs and self-mutilation. Can't even read a book or watch a film with such topics or motifs.
 

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I just saw a picture of this girl from another article I was reading. She appears to be a beautiful young woman, and it just goes to show that you can still suffer from bullying without having to be fat, ugly, or any other stereotypical attributes related to bullying.

What's even worse is that a few pages are up commemorating her, and they are still getting comments from anonymous posters who are insistent on bullying her post death. I really hope justice finds a way to serve them well.

And this reminds me of another blog I read. It really goes to show how teens aren't adults, and still have no idea in regards to what they are doing...

http://www.traynorseye.com/2012/09/meeting-troll.html
 

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My sister and her friends knew this girl and went to the same school as her. None of them knew about the bullying, cutting, and other stuff. The teachers had some emergency meeting that day to figure out how to relay the information and everything.
 

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Schools just need to have a no tolerance policy, or at least something close to it. But even that doesn't solve everything and is a tough solution that causes a lot of problems. Just adds to the many arguments as to why you can say homeschooling/unschooling (the latter in particular, as I always say) is supremely better if it can be managed properly by a family.
My school had a no tolerance policy, as in immediate expulsion, but that did nothing to stop it because victims don't report, and reports have to be heavily scrutinised by staff due to the extreme ramifications of being found guilty.

School has a culture, a culture of no snitching and not getting the teachers involved, there is an inherent lack of trust for staff, so imo if such a policy is to be successful, the most important thing would be for staff to build a better rapport with students, which they probably won't.
 

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Bah, I really regret typing in her name in google to see what she looks like, of course you'll see that one picture. Of course.

And you're right Teran, though I suspect having a no-tolerance system in place would have an effect on the culture, I can't exactly recall precisely, but I remember hearing or reading about how no-tolerance policies actually being effective because it made bullies much more fearful and not willing to risk it, and perhaps the bullied probably felt like they didn't have to care too much about not snitching because anyone they snitched on was gone. But again yeah you're totally right, that's why it's not a good solution, well that and it involves kicking a lot of people out. Can't say that a lot of the times I was bullied I "snitched" or even thought about doing that, and I had my fair share of it.

Best to just avoid schools entirely.
 

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I feel bad for not remembering this, but in my Adolescent Development class I took in my senior year at college, we did cover research and studies done on regards to the "zero tolerance" policy when it came to bullying. While I don't remember the major consensus, I do remember it was a "negative" result per say. I forgot what was the "best" approach though. Kinda irks me that I cannot remember.
 

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They say that because of incidents such as this, they're (not sure who) going to try to push for making a law that criminalizes cyber bullying, which is fine by me, to be honest.


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I think it already is over in London. I remember during the Olympics after one athlete didnt win gold they received a tweet along the lines of 'way to dissapoint your dad' who had died weeks earlier. Because he was in London, police tracked him down and arrested him. I'll try and dig up the article.

EDIT: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/tom-daley-twitter-police-olympic-diver_n_1722739.html

"In Britain, tweeting messages that are considered menacing, offensive or indecent can be a criminal offense."
 

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Try to remember, that's something I'd be interested in discussing. From what little I've read on it, a lot of the arguments against it are examples of it having been used, though such examples are really poor applications of it, so it wasn't really from the issue of the policy itself.

One thing that is a legitimate complaint about it is that the people who bully and get removed from the school then don't get help from the school or no one tries to manage it to try and make it better, and instead of course just rips them out of the situation. It's debatable whether the school should be able to do that or not I guess.

@Mic, that's just messed up. @_@ If that one guy wasn't joking he's messed up too, but nothing to be arrested over, damn.
 

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@Mic, that's just messed up. @_@ If that one guy wasn't joking he's messed up too, but nothing to be arrested over, damn.
I dunno, if it's enough that you'd get in trouble over acting that way in real life (ie, threatening behaviour) than why not get into trouble over acting that way online?
 

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I think it already is over in London. I remember during the Olympics after one athlete didnt win gold they received a tweet along the lines of 'way to dissapoint your dad' who had died weeks earlier. Because he was in London, police tracked him down and arrested him. I'll try and dig up the article.

EDIT: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/tom-daley-twitter-police-olympic-diver_n_1722739.html

"In Britain, tweeting messages that are considered menacing, offensive or indecent can be a criminal offense."
Interesting how London got it right. America should follow this example. Is an arrest for this extreme? That's debatable, but I do like how they've taken a stand against cyber bullying.

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Interesting how London got it right. America should follow this example. Is an arrest for this extreme? That's debatable, but I do like how they've taken a stand against cyber bullying.

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I wouldn't say London got it right, arresting someone for a single twitter comment is pretty extreme. Plus in America, making a law like that would conflict with the First Amendment. Don't get me wrong, I hate bullying too, but if you can get arrested for a single comment on twitter, then where exactly do you draw the line?
 

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I wouldn't say London got it right, arresting someone for a single twitter comment is pretty extreme. Plus in America, making a law like that would conflict with the First Amendment. Don't get me wrong, I hate bullying too, but if you can get arrested for a single comment on twitter, then where exactly do you draw the line?
I suppose it depends on the level of malice behind the words, but then every individual has varying degrees in how to measure malice, which creates a problem when dealing with online trolls. Then again, Amanda Todd was blackmailed to hell, and physically hurt, so I don't know how you'll measure just the blackmail alone.

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@Mic, I don't think people would/should get arrested for saying that someone disappointed their dead father in public, so obviously it wouldn't be right to arrest people who do it on the internet.
 

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I wouldn't say London got it right, arresting someone for a single twitter comment is pretty extreme. Plus in America, making a law like that would conflict with the First Amendment. Don't get me wrong, I hate bullying too, but if you can get arrested for a single comment on twitter, then where exactly do you draw the line?
Well, we also have a clause of "clear and present danger". So technically speaking, any sort of social media messages referring to someone getting hurt or harmed would allow them to be arrested.

Bullying is a bit more touchy. That guy I read about in the London Games had many more tweets following it. I think one of them was a death threat.
 

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Well, we also have a clause of "clear and present danger". So technically speaking, any sort of social media messages referring to someone getting hurt or harmed would allow them to be arrested.

Bullying is a bit more touchy. That guy I read about in the London Games had many more tweets following it. I think one of them was a death threat.
Ah ok, if the guy made a death threat, then he should definitely be arrested. Initially, I thought he was just arrested for saying "you disappointed your father" on twitter.
 

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@Mic, I don't think people would/should get arrested for saying that someone disappointed their dead father in public, so obviously it wouldn't be right to arrest people who do it on the internet.
You missed the bit where he threatened to find and drown the guy?

I wouldn't say London got it right, arresting someone for a single twitter comment is pretty extreme. Plus in America, making a law like that would conflict with the First Amendment. Don't get me wrong, I hate bullying too, but if you can get arrested for a single comment on twitter, then where exactly do you draw the line?
Like I said, just have it adhere to real life. If someone threatened you out in the street, or even rang up and threatened to kill you over the phone, that's illegal. (Or at least it is in Australian and English law. Keep trying to search for american law, but seems it's hard to find actual law outside of MSNBC stories)

Just carry the same limits over.
 

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Unfortunately, I'll have to do some research in my spare time in regards to the zero tolerance policy and what not. I might still have my old textbook or notes somewhere. Sucks too, cause I enjoyed that class very much and got an A in it lol.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...10/15/bc-amanda-todd-tormentor-anonymous.html

While I am not a fan of Anonymous, it seems that they have found the man responsible for spreading Todd's topless picture.

1. I was hoping they could just send it "anonymously" to the police, so they could investigate. Because his name is out, the dude is already getting threats and what not.

2. Assuming this is the guy, I hope he gets what he deserves.
 

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I think it already is over in London. I remember during the Olympics after one athlete didnt win gold they received a tweet along the lines of 'way to dissapoint your dad' who had died weeks earlier. Because he was in London, police tracked him down and arrested him. I'll try and dig up the article.

EDIT: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/tom-daley-twitter-police-olympic-diver_n_1722739.html

"In Britain, tweeting messages that are considered menacing, offensive or indecent can be a criminal offense."
Wow, I now hate my country.
 

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You missed the bit where he threatened to find and drown the guy?



Like I said, just have it adhere to real life. If someone threatened you out in the street, or even rang up and threatened to kill you over the phone, that's illegal. (Or at least it is in Australian and English law. Keep trying to search for american law, but seems it's hard to find actual law outside of MSNBC stories)

Just carry the same limits over.
Well at first I thought the only thing the guy got arrested for was tweeting "you disappointed your father". Which would have seemed extreme to me. But now that I know he also sent death threats, arresting the guy is completely justified.
 

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...10/15/bc-amanda-todd-tormentor-anonymous.html

While I am not a fan of Anonymous, it seems that they have found the man responsible for spreading Todd's topless picture.

1. I was hoping they could just send it "anonymously" to the police, so they could investigate. Because his name is out, the dude is already getting threats and what not.

2. Assuming this is the guy, I hope he gets what he deserves.
I don't care for Anonymous either, but reading this - assuming they did track the guy responsible - makes them more respectable than I had initially thought.

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Anonymous is a double-edged sword. Every now and then they do something great, like this. At the same time, they are also a cesspool that breeds intolerance, injustice, and insensitivity.
 

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I personally like Anonymous and what they do. Though I can see that they can do things more peacefully and not hack. But oh well, you're going to have people in this world that can resolve arguments peacefully without any attacks.

The bullying part. I've seen many people get bullied and commit suicide. Like the gay man (Tyler Clementi) that jumped off the George Washington Bridge since they bullied him.
 

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I personally like Anonymous and what they do. Though I can see that they can do things more peacefully and not hack. But oh well, you're going to have people in this world that can resolve arguments peacefully without any attacks.

The bullying part. I've seen many people get bullied and commit suicide. Like the gay man (Tyler Clementi) that jumped off the George Washington Bridge since they bullied him.
Half the time I read about anonymous, they usually hack a bank and post everyone's credit card numbers and personal info online. Its pretty rare that they actually do something good.
 

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Anonymous is a double-edged sword. Every now and then they do something great, like this. At the same time, they are also a cesspool that breeds intolerance, injustice, and insensitivity.
Sounds like one edge is dull while the other edge is razor sharp, if you get what I mean.

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http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=17463266



I'm sure some or many of you have heard of this by now, and I'm sure we've heard plenty of "child commits suicide over bullying", but this is really getting out of hand. I also saw her video earlier today, and it really is heartbreaking. Yes, bullying has been around since time immemorial, but no matter how one tries to justify its existence, including using arguments that bullying is a form of instinctual dominance, this is a problem that needs to stop.

Wishful thinking, but I wish I could've seen the video much sooner; I would've sent her a message and tried my best to help her cope with this bullying crap.

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I cried. Q.Q This is so sad, things have gotten so way out of hand, it's shocking.

I wish I could reach through the screen, hug her, and tell her that people do care and it will be ok.

Schools seriously need to start cracking down on the bullying issue. They honestly don't give a ****. When I was in 4th grade, I was bullied everyday all day long, I don't even know why. All my friends didn't wanna be around me anymore, I was constantly teased and made fun of. My parents went to the principal and had a meeting with him, but the only thing that happend was they got their folder signed. WTF. I was then scheduled to go to the school counselor every other day, as if I was the one with the problem. I didn't do anythign to begin with! omg e.e

My parents didn't even know that I was seeing a counselor until like the last week of school when my Mom came to pick me up and I wasn't in my normal classroom. Oh my God, she was FURIOUS. Lol you wouldn't want to mess with her that day. That was also the last time I attended Public School, I can't imagine how it is now...
 

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To put more context into Mic's earlier post, the boy got a warning and was sent on his way, he wasn't charged with anything, and probably never would have.

Basically here we have laws which I can best say is like the rules every Internet forum adopted, just don't be a malicious **** to people. Unlike what most Americans think there is a bit in-between it being perfectly legal (and heck, even acceptable with comments like "I disagree with what you say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it") to send pictures of a dead 18 year old girls badly disfigured body to her family or malicious comments to them about her and anything the West Baptist Church does, and full blown government 1984 control.

I always find it weird when US private institutions adopt rules that are almost universally different to what the government says is alright, aka being a malicious **** to people. So yeah, the boy wasn't in any danger of being charged. You can even be a bit douchey to the police and nothing will come of it.
 

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Anonymous is a double-edged sword. Every now and then they do something great, like this. At the same time, they are also a cesspool that breeds intolerance, injustice, and insensitivity.
The problem is that people regard lump all these peole under one group of "Anonymous" when really that's not the case.

As a crude form of separation, you can lump them into Anonymous and The Internet Hate Machine.

Also people seem to think that everyone who is a troll or a **** on the internet is part of Anonymous, when really they're most likely not, especially if they get caught.
 

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Well, I've stated this about a hundred times. The problem with Anonymous is that they choose to have no form of leadership or organization. Therefore, if one guy who claims to be part of Anon does something bad, they all take the heat. Vice versa.
 

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So Anonymous is a disorganized mess of a group with no leader or even a hierarchy? What a shame, though in hindsight, it makes perfect sense.

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Even a logo permeated for the like to associate. :trollface:

I'm with Teran on dat note; it feels as if the gap between is so acute.
 

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Half the time I read about anonymous, they usually hack a bank and post everyone's credit card numbers and personal info online. Its pretty rare that they actually do something good.
So Anononymous hacking Polish government from doing an ACTA law, CSLEA (Protesting against police brutality), Nigeria protest, and more aren't good?
 

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So Anononymous hacking Polish government from doing an ACTA law, CSLEA (Protesting against police brutality), Nigeria protest, and more aren't good?
Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_events_associated_with_Anonymous
Users signed up to the Habbo site dressed in avatars of a black man wearing a grey suit and an Afro hairstyle and blocked entry to the pool, declaring that it was "closed due to AIDS,"[2][4] flooding the site with Internet slang,[4] and forming swastika-like formations.[4]
On March 28, 2008, Wired News reported that "Internet griefers"—a slang term for people whose only interests are in harassing others[39]—assaulted an epilepsy support forum run by the Epilepsy Foundation of America.[40] JavaScript code and flashing computer animations were posted with the intention of triggering migraine headaches and seizures in photosensitive and pattern-sensitive epileptics.[40] According to Wired News, circumstantial evidence suggested that the attack was perpetrated by Anonymous users
In January 2009 members of Anonymous targeted California teen McKay Hatch who runs the No Cussing Club, a website against profanity.[49][50] As Hatch's home address, phone number, and other personal information were leaked on the internet, his family has received hate mail, obscene phone calls, and bogus pizza and pornography deliveries.
In late June 2008, users who identified themselves as Anonymous claimed responsibility for a series of attacks against the SOHH (Support Online Hip Hop) website.[41] The attack was reported to have begun in retaliation for insults made by members of SOHH's "Just Bugging Out" forum against members of Anonymous. The attack against the website took place in stages, as Anonymous users flooded the SOHH forums, which were then shut down. On June 23, 2008, the group which identified themselves as Anonymous organized DDOS attacks against the website, successfully eliminating 60% of the website's service capacity. On June 27, 2008, the hackers utilized cross-site scripting to deface the website's main page with satirical images and headlines referencing numerous racial stereotypes and slurs, and also successfully stole information from SOHH employees.[42] Following the defacement, the website was temporarily shut down by its administration. AllHipHop, an unrelated website, also had its forum raided.
On April 2, 2011 Anonymous launched an attack on the media giant Sony, named #opsony, as a part of Operation Payback.[65] Anonymous claims the attack a success after they took down the PlayStation Network and other related PlayStation Websites. Anonymous' actions also included personal harassment of employees and their families.
Anonymous launched several Denial-of-Service attacks on the Visa, MasterCard and Paypal companies for cutting off their services to Wikileaks
On June 12, 2011, there was a DDoS attack on the website of the Spanish Police, starting at 21:30 GMT. Anonymous claimed responsibility the following day, stating that the attack was a "direct response to the Friday arrests of three individuals alleged to be associated with acts of cyber civil disobedience attributed to Anonymous." The site was down for approximately an hour as a result of their efforts.
The group collaborated with LulzSec to hack the websites of a number of government and corporate sources and release information from them.[171][172] As well as targeting American sites, Anonymous also targeted government sites in Tunisia, Anguilla, Brazil, Zimbabwe, Turkey, and Australia. On July 21, Anonymous released two PDFs allegedly taken from NATO.
In an event dubbed "Shooting Sheriffs Saturday," Anonymous hacked 70 (mostly rural) law enforcement websites and released 10 GB of leaked information.
Whatever wings or groups among Anonymous that perpetrate most of these acts are cyberterrorists, no more and no less. Sometimes they support good causes, but Anonymous and similar groups are by no means respectable freedom fighters or anything like that.
 

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So Anononymous hacking Polish government from doing an ACTA law, CSLEA (Protesting against police brutality), Nigeria protest, and more aren't good?
Just because they may do some good things doesn't excuse all of the terrible things that they do. And Anonymous had done more harm than good.

Edit: After reading GoldShadow's post, it seems that Anonymous doesn't do anything that's good at all. They're even worse than I thought.
 
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