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Break The SSBU Fighter Above You.

TheTrueBrawler

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This is a Smash Ultimate game. The idea is to create terrible balancing that breaks a fighter completely. Breaking a fighter could imply making them worse and nowhere near threatening, but it could also imply making them better and over powered. No matter the case, you should try to make them the end of which ever side of the spectrum you’re aiming for. Here’s the step by step process. It’s not complicated.
1. Read the last comment posted on this thread, and identify the character that person is telling you to break.

2. Come up with changes to the fighter to break them. You can get as creative as you wish.

3. Decide the fighter the next person must try to break.

4. Post your comment.
I’ll begin, but because there’s never a comment above the original post, I have no choice but to skip steps 1 and 2 this time.

:ultmario:
 

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:ultmario: : His neutral air is the spin from SMG, and like one the real game, it makes Mario get upward just a little bit(Luigi has the same move). He can float with the cape by maintaining the jump button. The Side-B is now Cappy throw, who deals damages to opponents. He can bounce on him. The F.L.U.D.D can be launched in any direction just like in the real game, it can propulse Mario in the air, or give him a boost. It depends of the direction you decide to input.

How will you made :ultbowser: S-Tier ?
 
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- Levin Sword instantly kills anything above 100%, and has more capability to combo.
- The frame data on all of his normal moves is cut in half.
- Arcfire’s damage, launch power, frame data, and projectile speed are identical to Ness’s PK Fire from Smash 4.
- Elwind projectiles launch towards the opponent, and Robin still soars sky high.

:ultsheik:
 
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Sheik is actually invisible the whole entire match on the Switch screen, and you can only see Sheik by pulling out your Wii U gamepad and connecting it to the switch, in which you can only see Sheik if it has been kept out of the light for 72 hours straight. Then it's just Sheik's outline.

:ultpacman:
 

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Her Down-B now drops Power Bombs.
Her Side-B now always shoots super missiles regardless of how you inputted it, which deal increased damage and have the homing properties of her regular missiles (but still the speed of her super missiles).
Her Neutral-B is now always fully charged.
She is now harder to KO then Giga Bowser.
She's in her Metroid Prime 1 outfit.

The next poster has to do the impossible and buff someone who is already the most powerful character in smash:

:ultkirby:
 
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His Up-B is now his Neutral-B and his Up-B is something I can use to actually recover worth a damn.

now let's make :ultwiifittrainer: insanely OP so I can finally have fun with the pretty yoga lady k thx
 

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- Sun Saturation is always fully charged and now has homing properties. It will also pass through walls to hit them if needed.
- The soccer balls from Header come out three at a time. All are sent with different velocities which can apply pressure to the opponent.
- Deep Breathing fully recovers all Wii Fit Trainer's health.

:ultken:
 
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AirMac1

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I’ll stick to the specials for now.
His up-b is Guile’s sonic boom, and since he’s an echo, the rest of his moves are just extremely buffed versions of Ryu’s.

Next up is :ultlittlemac: since I’m a Mac main!
 

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He can act out of teleport and can shoot the weak version of shadow ball faster

He litterally only needs those changes and he would be broken

Do ganon
 

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- The startup frames on Ganondorf's Warlock Punch are lost completely, so the move comes out first frame. It also deals 666% damage.
- Many of his attacks come out significantly faster not that it matters all that much.
- To not make him too broken, his Down Tilt has been nerfed by 0.1%.

:ultsimon:
 
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Her grab is 3 frame long and is active during all those frame. She can grab someone in the air and just fall with her opponent in her hands. Her bombs now deal 15% damage and are meteor smashes. Her recovery function much like in her games, it fly real high and you can decide where you want to move. All of her aerials deal 1.5 more damage than the actual one. Her dash attack can kill at 90%. Her charged ball move faster. She's in the top ten heavyweight while being also in the top 20 of the faster characters. (Did that OP ?)

Do :ultbowser: (my boy).
 

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- Bowser's normal moves can all be canceled with the push of the B button. They also deal twice the damage.
- Fire Breath instantly incinerates fighters to death if they're above 100%.
- Whirling Fortress operates more like Villager's Balloon Trip significantly increasing his recovery.
- Bowser's tough guy mechanic gives him Super Armor all the time.

:ultpichu:
 
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- The sword is ten times longer, and so are all hit boxes that utilize it.
- Down air launches at a -45° angle making it easier to kill with.

:ultwolf:
 

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He now has Falco's lasers giving him better stage control
He has Brawl back air again
His Up B has no startup
His Up air is more similar to Clouds


All Wolf really needs is better stage control and a better aerial game. The bluffs may not look like much but they make a huge difference.

Break Dark Samus
 

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- Dark Samus’s Neutral Air kills at 50% off stage and launches at an unforgiving 0° angle.
- Her Down Air now only has hitboxes that spike the opponent into the abyss.
- Her grab reaches across the entire length of Final Destination and can grab multiple fighters at once.
- Her Charge Shot is replaced with Dense Charge Shot from Smaus’s custom moves in Smash 4.
- Her Missiles travel at light speed and fire numerous at a time at varying angles.

:ultincineroar:
 

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Give her all of her assist trophy attacks.
Slowly corrupts other fighters with phazon, causing them to move slower and take Damage Over Time (only Samus, other Dark Samus', Ganondorf, Bayonetta and Dark Pit are immune to this. Light-based characters like Pit and Simon Belmont take twice as much damage every second).
:ultgreninja:'d.

Incineroar's Down-B is replaced with them hitting the other fighters with a folding chair that KOs at very low, very jank percentages.

Next poster plz buff :ultpalutena:.
 

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- Magic attacks and attacks with her wing incinerate players instantly. Up Air, all Smash Attacks, Neutral Special, and Forward Special.
- Down throw has fixed knock back designed to always lead into up air for a 0% kill confirm.
- Side Taunt arouses (“stuns”) all characters looking at her even in the air. It functions just like the stun from a shield break.

:ultrob:
 
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- Magic attacks and attacks with her wing incinerate players instantly. Up Air, all Smash Attacks, Neutral Special, and Forward Special.
You didn't remove the stupid*** wing attack f-smash and d-smash. Test failed--

- Side Taunt arouses ("stuns") all characters looking at her even in the air.
nvm we good.

  • R.O.B.'s Up-taunt has him pull out a Super Scope item. Holding the Taunt button down has him pull out a Chicago Typewriter instead that functions like the Super Scope, except it cannot be charged up, but has twice as much "ammo" and deals twice as much damage as a tradeoff.
  • The Down-Taunt is replaced with the R.O.B. offering itself as a blood sacrifice to the blood god, Virtual Boy. The Virtual Boy accepts the sacrifice, and proceeds to fry out the eye sockets of enemy fighters, causing them to leap off the stage in their agony.
  • R.O.B.'s Spinning-Top Down-B is replaced with the Phillips CDi. It functions about the same, except enemies hit by this are now infected with the dreaded CDi plague. Mario, Luigi and Bowser become their Hotel Mario incarnations, as do Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf. Other fighters become similarly grotesque abominations, all of which take double damage and recieve double knockback from all of R.O.B.'s attacks.
  • R.O.B.'s Neutral-B is always at full charge.
  • R.O.B.'s Up-B never runs out of fuel.
  • R.O.B.'s Final Smash has him use the Power Glove, which randomly insta-kills half of all fighters remaining in the match, rounded up in the event there are an odd number of fighters left (R.O.B. himself cannot die from using the Final Smash).
buff mayro next. :ultmario:
 

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:ultmario: : His neutral air is the spin from SMG, and like one the real game, it makes Mario get upward just a little bit(Luigi has the same move). He can float with the cape by maintaining the jump button. The Side-B is now Cappy throw, who deals damages to opponents. He can bounce on him. The F.L.U.D.D can be launched in any direction just like in the real game, it can propulse Mario in the air, or give him a boost. It depends of the direction you decide to input. His forward Smash is a hammer slam that can spike when used with a fighter in the air next to it.
 

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No character given? Fine I’ll do :ultpikachu:.

- Skull Bash can break the fighter’s bones if charged up enough dealing 300% if fully charged.
- Quick Attack can leap infinite times and the leaps auto combo into each other even at high percents.
- His down special, Thunder, spikes now, and can be canceled out of if used in the air.

:ultlucario:
 
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FNUStory

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The rage controversy of Sm4sh caused Nintendo to overdo it and remove Aura as well. Lucario is always in his weakest state. They also nerfed the damage on all his moves and the range on them as well.

What? The original post said I could nerf it as means of making them broken.

:ultpichu:
 
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- No longer hurts itself
- Much faster than Pikachu, but same weight
- One of its taunts become Pichu slapping its butt

Try :ultshulk:
 

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Pichu now instantly dies upon using a special attack, including recovery.
:ultgreninja:

Shulk's Monado Arts are all permanently activated at once, and no longer lower any of Shulk's attributes.
His new Neutral-B has him dead*** pull a gun on fighters, which can spike airborn enemies.
If his Back-Slash is used in a way that sends him off a cliff, he instead teleports onto the ledge to safety.
His Side Taunt can cause enemies to take their own stock in protest.

Someone ruin :ultolimar: next.
 

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- He has 100 Pikmin like the actual game
- If you somehow don’t have any, all of his moves that normally require Pikmin (such as smash attacks) instantly delete you

I’d like to see how you all would make :ultbayonetta: even more broken :p
 

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-Infinite jumps
-Witch time will always be successful
-Witch twist has an infinite amount of uses as well

Break my girl, :ultrosalina:
 
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- Has twenty Lumas out at once. Each run their own AI and are less under Rosalina’s control but still work for her.
- Neutral Special calls one Luma to stick by her, defend her, and attack anyone who comes near. Can stack up to twenty times.
- Side Special does the opposite. Tells one Luma defending her to begin attacking out on the wild again.

:ultmegaman:
 

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Mega Man's Neutral-B is just as disgustingly spammable as it was in Mega Man 2
Mega Man's Side-B is now the Protoman shield, which can rack up damage easily and reflects projectiles to boot.
Mega Man's Up-B is now the bird thingy, just like it was at one point in Super Smash Flash 2.
Mega Man's pellets no longer fires "up to three times." you can just spam that **** all damn day without pause. Also, they can be charged by holding the button down to REALLY piss your opponent off.
Mega Man can now only be killed by falling into spikes.

Break my girl, :ultrosalina:
No Luma. We fight like real women.
Rosalina's Side-B has her throw the Star Bits herself, Ninja-style because Shurikens are kinda cool, I guess.
Rosalina's Neutral-B summons a miniature Black Hole that OHKOs enemies if they get sucked in.
Literally all of Rosalina's attacks can combo into Neutral-B.

Someone wreck either :ultpit: or :ultdarkpit:. I'll let you pick which one.
 
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Decided to do both.

- Pit's moves are increased in damage by three times, and his attacks happen three times faster. He also has a stronger shield that can survive most moves designed to break it. He is still a well rounded character. It's just that now all of his stats are broken.

- Dark Pit, being the edgy angel that he is, takes things too seriously. He pitched his Guardian Orbiters and chose a move that "Scares" opponents into uncontrollably running away from him. They will even run off the edge if they make it and maybe even plummet to their death at 0.1% which is the move's base damage. Hit boxes and attack speed work like Mew Two's confusion.

:ulttoonlink:
 
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:ulttoonlink:
-Bombs are now insta-kills
-:ulttoonlink: Doesn't take damage from his bombs
-:ulttoonlink: Can throw 4 in multiple directions at the same time
-:ulttoonlink: Can have 20 bombs on screen
- Bombs automatically explode 20 seconds, but can be remote activated through a combination of buttons
-:ulttoonlink: now has :ultlink:'s dash attack



Make my boi S Tier or else
:ultlucas:
 

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- PK Freeze deals three times more damage and homes in on the opponent.
- PK Fire travels infinite distance and spikes airborne opponents.
- PK Thunder permanently stuns anyone it touches allowing for free followups.
- PSI Magnet absorbs all projectiles and heals Lucas to 0% or max HP.

:ultkingdedede:
 
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This will be fun...

  • Dash speed is equal to :ultsheik:
  • Air speed is equal to :ultyoshi:
  • Walk speed is equal to :ultgreninja:
  • F-smash is i10 (10 frames of wind-up, that is)
  • F-air meteor smashes with a weight-based base knockback of 200
  • Inhaling explosives heals 50%
  • Gordos are thrown three at a time, each inflicting 25% electricity damage
  • Super Dedede Jump w/o canceling it grabs the ledge
  • Fully charged Jet Hammer OHKOs and does no recoil damage
Sa...it is :ultpacman:'s turn to get a make-over...
 
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:ultpacman: gets a new moveset.

Do Wendy Koopa plz
just kidding.
  • Pac-Man's recovery is only god knows why better.
  • Hydrant if hits anyone, immediately gets them killed.
  • All Aerials have half the lag off with more range
  • Side-B if anyone is caught directly in the mouth, instantly dies (Like Zelda's when they are at 100% but at any percent)
  • Pac-Man coustumes change to the ones from "Pac-Man and the Ghosts" I don't know the Pac-Man show that was on Disney XD
  • When Pac-Man throws one of the fruit, they get ***** which will kill them in 0.000000001 seconds unless they kill Pac-Man
  • Pac-Man's Side-B can use projectiles to heal him if any projectile gets directly in his mouth
  • Pac-Man gets a Ms. Pac-Man alt


Do :ultbayonetta: plz (and don't just simply say "make them exactly as they were in Smash 4")
 

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  • Most of Bayonetta's attacks slightly-but-consistantly heal her now.
  • All of Bayonetta's attacks apply considerably more stun to CPUs.
  • Up-Smash has more range.
  • F-Smash is easier to hit at point-blank range with.
  • Up-B has been replaced with something that you can actually recover with like a normal ****ing smash character. Additionally, it is stupidly easy to combo D-throw into this move as a kill combo; even easier then it was with ZSS in pre-patch Smash 4.
  • Neutral-B can be rapid-fired in perpetuity.
  • Down-B has significantly reduced end lag.
  • D-air is replaced with a downward swipe that can spike enemies, rather then a falling stomp attack that's way too easy to SD with.
  • F-air has her slightly pause in midair while she's using it.
  • The "if you want to learn how to talk to a lady" taunt is now an insta-kill on :ultlucas:.
  • Bayonetta's tallness no longer obscures her "busty" figure.

Break :ultincineroar:
 
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