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Super helpful. When it says 'kills at,' it's referring to the combo as a whole, not just U-Air, correct? I'll definitely have to memorize these so I know when I can get the kill as early as possible. Securing a KO is something that I struggle with a tad bit more now that Koo-Pah requires much more precision.
Yes, I believe those numbers are before uthrow is initiated. Not my list though, I believe it belongs to @1PokeMastr (goes by a different name in the Bowser discord so I get things mixed up). The window can be pretty tight with rage and DI changing those numbers (and occasionally missing one, I'm terrible at catching DI in for some reason).
Well, I suppose I could find kill percentages with rage factored in? Since I use a GameCube controller for personal play, I can use the GamePad to control the various characters I listed and then post my results, if you think it would be helpful.
The numbers that would be hella useful are the bair numbers!
Could you elaborate, please? Like, B-Air kill percentages with U-Throw? Or just straight B-Air? I'll lab any moves that you guys feel need attention, but details would be highly appreciated!
Might be tricky, but it couldn't hurt to try.
You think so?
I still wouldn't call it 90-10 bad. I feel like ZSS has still got the crown in terms of our worst matchup. I have yet to struggle very much against Bayonetta, although I believe that is purely because I haven't faced somebody who plays her, so I would say 70-30 or 75-25 Bayo's favor feels more appropriate.
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That's pretty sound advice, I suppose. I generally just don't enjoy making peers, colleagues, or just people I know in general feel bad when playing a game, especially Smash.
It's good to worry about the balance of the club, but be sure to draw a line for yourself. If your opponent throws salt, you may need to accept that your opponent knows no other way to handle the frustration. Don't let it get to you and continue to be a good sport. You guys are young. There's a lot of pent up energy. No need to bum yourself out.
Even if they were unnecessary, that doesn't mean they ought to feel bad for us. A lot of people have their own characters to focus on. I didn't feel bad because I beat his so-and-so, I felt bad because he was there for the same reason as me and I was taking away his enjoyment of it. But I think UltimaLuminaire has a strong point.
To be fair, I've talked to a few non-Bowser players who have been like, "Why did they take this away from Bowser?"
That's just how characters are. They all have their own special nuances that distinguish them from other characters. We play Bowser because we like his character and he suits our playstyle, linear or not. Even if a Boeing 747 is easier to land than Bowser, I'm not going to stop maining him. Gotta find a way to work around the weaknesses of the characters you enjoy playing. When you find a character who's weaknesses you can tolerate/work around and fits your playstyle, you have your main.
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You just need to get better with bowser.
I will tell you from experience anybody who is going to be good with a heavy character has to have the demeanor such that they don't get frustrated while being comboed. Bowser, unlike other characters who get comboed as much as him/nearly as much as him actually has the weight to survive those higher percents, too. Pikachu can juggle characters like Fox and Link relatively hard and they both weigh far less.
I feel it's too risky to try at times, especially since Bowser has a variety of better edge-guard tools like whirling Fortress, F-tilt and F-tilt, or just running off the ledge and using Bowser's aerials. Bowser Bombing the ledge feels like it would be in the same league as Down Smash in that it should be used sparingly.
