Marthmario
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Who should I pick up? I'm thinking of dropping Puff:
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Based on my current mains...
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Is your goal to have fun, or to win?
If it's to have fun, it doesn't matter - You can have whatever number of mains you want.
If it's to win, you listen to Umbreon by picking ONE character that's Luigi Tier or above and main that character entirely. No secondaries. Nothing. You stay with that character. Play Spacies if you don't want to ever worry about bad-matchups. <---- This happens after you've experimented and played around with all the top/high tier characters.
If it's to have fun, it doesn't matter - You can have whatever number of mains you want.
If it's to win, you listen to Umbreon by picking ONE character that's Luigi Tier or above and main that character entirely. No secondaries. Nothing. You stay with that character. Play Spacies if you don't want to ever worry about bad-matchups. <---- This happens after you've experimented and played around with all the top/high tier characters.
Marthmario
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Both tbh. :/
I love how many people take mow's rantings as gospel truth, man. He's sorta right, but the conception of maining a single character just means that you're not copping out of difficult situations by picking something easier to beat it, thereby stunting the development of your play. As you get better it's completely reasonable to pick a character more suited for the situation, as when mew2king goes peach against fly amanita and just makes the matchup irrelevant.
But that said, if you're "maining" 4 characters you probably don't have any of them seriously developed to a point where that becomes an option for you and you should probably focus on just one.
But that said, if you're "maining" 4 characters you probably don't have any of them seriously developed to a point where that becomes an option for you and you should probably focus on just one.
I'd say that opposite. For my case - I main Sheik. By copping out of difficult situations with 'specific tactics' (ie. Having a Pocket Fox to use his upsmash and upthrow upair against Puff), you aren't putting yourself to the challenge of LEARNING the matchup with your main (Sheik involves Bair and Fair zoning against Puff with needles and very stealthy grabs and throws). By relying on these specific tactics, you are halting potential growth that could be instead, invested in your main character.
Personally, I believe Sheik vs Puff isn't an impossible matchup and KK/Overtriforce show it's clearly possible to win against HungryBox.
Unless the matchup's almost completely one-sided, like Puff vs Peach or Peach vs ICs and you feel the absolute need to win, then it is not in your favor to opt to a secondary. From the first place, you should play Fox/Falco to avoid such situations if your main intentions are to win.
This has always existed as a truth for me when I started playing fighting games - Before I read and agreed with Umbreon's post. I come from a Street Fighter background - Where counterpicks are plentiful and commonly used. That still doesn't, for instance, stop Daigo Umehara from making Evo top 8 five times in a row with the most known, gimmick-less character of the game: Ryu. Some of the best players in the game have not opt to play secondaries and as a result, developed characters that propel far higher up than others. Again, making another reference from street fighter: Wao plays Oni solely in Street Fighter and destroys most of the top Japanese players in Topanga Cup.
Just want to say now before assumptions are put up: Just because most of the God 5 aren't playing sole characters does not mean that it isn't possible to succeed with other characters. You'll probably win the most with one main and one secondary that covers your main's stage disadvantages/matchups, but you'll limit the amount of growth possible for your main by investing that much needed time to your secondary. This is my wholesome opinion in regards to playing the game with a single main only.
Personally, I believe Sheik vs Puff isn't an impossible matchup and KK/Overtriforce show it's clearly possible to win against HungryBox.
Unless the matchup's almost completely one-sided, like Puff vs Peach or Peach vs ICs and you feel the absolute need to win, then it is not in your favor to opt to a secondary. From the first place, you should play Fox/Falco to avoid such situations if your main intentions are to win.
This has always existed as a truth for me when I started playing fighting games - Before I read and agreed with Umbreon's post. I come from a Street Fighter background - Where counterpicks are plentiful and commonly used. That still doesn't, for instance, stop Daigo Umehara from making Evo top 8 five times in a row with the most known, gimmick-less character of the game: Ryu. Some of the best players in the game have not opt to play secondaries and as a result, developed characters that propel far higher up than others. Again, making another reference from street fighter: Wao plays Oni solely in Street Fighter and destroys most of the top Japanese players in Topanga Cup.
Just want to say now before assumptions are put up: Just because most of the God 5 aren't playing sole characters does not mean that it isn't possible to succeed with other characters. You'll probably win the most with one main and one secondary that covers your main's stage disadvantages/matchups, but you'll limit the amount of growth possible for your main by investing that much needed time to your secondary. This is my wholesome opinion in regards to playing the game with a single main only.
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La_Popo
Smash Rookie
Why do you want to drop Puff?
If it's because you can't do specific things with her, pick a character that you can do those things with.
To be honest though, you should probably focus on a single character.
If it's because you can't do specific things with her, pick a character that you can do those things with.
To be honest though, you should probably focus on a single character.
oats_
Smash Apprentice
Just play whoever you find fun. I think a bigger thing that picking the "best" character is to pick a character you find fun and who compliments your play style.
For example, I think the most fun you can have in smash is crazy low% gimps and extremely deep edge guards where you take huge risks. Because of this, I main doc, especially because playing doc at a high level requires a lot of tech skills, and I love being technical.
And I wouldn't main falcon or a spacie, especially because, to be honest, you are probably not the most technical or skilled player (just assuming based on your number of mains, dont mean to disrespect). Falcon is hard. I've seen so many falcons or secondary falcons who have no combo game and just throw out shffld knees. Don't be that guy.
For example, I think the most fun you can have in smash is crazy low% gimps and extremely deep edge guards where you take huge risks. Because of this, I main doc, especially because playing doc at a high level requires a lot of tech skills, and I love being technical.
And I wouldn't main falcon or a spacie, especially because, to be honest, you are probably not the most technical or skilled player (just assuming based on your number of mains, dont mean to disrespect). Falcon is hard. I've seen so many falcons or secondary falcons who have no combo game and just throw out shffld knees. Don't be that guy.
Marthmario
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Maybe I'll post a video later of me practicing as those characters, maybe that might help?