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Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

Gemini-Gene

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Nintendo... hiring pornstars?!? Look, I have a hard enough time taking you seriously due to your atrocious grammar. I don't need tall tales on top of that. Citation, please.
A quick google search my friend.
 

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Conker can certainly work in Smash. Conker in a crossover title doesn't need any of the adult humor to work--give him a ****ing chainsaw, that'll do. It's Microsoft who's ****ing up Conker by taming his image down in "main titles". Conker in his own games should be a beer drinking, cigar chomping, gun wielding maniac.

I would love Banjo & Kazooie and Conker in Smash, they do go together nicely. Though, only Banjo & Kazooie are necessary for me to complete the puzzle.
 

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Conker can certainly work in Smash. Conker in a crossover title doesn't need any of the adult humor to work--give him a ****ing chainsaw, that'll do. It's Microsoft who's ****ing up Conker by taming his image down in "main titles". Conker in his own games should be a beer drinking, cigar chomping, gun wielding maniac.

I would love Banjo & Kazooie and Conker in Smash, they do go together nicely. Though, only Banjo & Kazooie are necessary for me to complete the puzzle.
Guy's got more than that, he has a pair of bricks, toilet paper and a frying pan too. Hell, Live and Reloaded has less profanity than the N64 original, if you can believe that.

Besides, when you think about it, Banjo-Tooie really did seem like a precursor to BFD, in regards to how messed-up society was in that game.

For now though, B-K is definitely needed. Conker would need to have a huge following after this game for him to have a chance.
 

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Guy's got more than that, he has a pair of bricks, toilet paper and a frying pan too. Hell, Live and Reloaded has less profanity than the N64 original, if you can believe that.

Besides, when you think about it, Banjo-Tooie really did seem like a precursor to BFD, in regards to how messed-up society was in that game.

For now though, B-K is definitely needed. Conker would need to have a huge following after this game for him to have a chance.
Which is what really upset me of how they handled Conker. How the **** do you make a remake of a Nintendo game on Xbox... TAMER?!
 

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So the guy who apparently leaked cloud back during Wii U DLC days is saying Nintendo is upset about a leaked photo that’s been out there. It’s not the Ken leak and he can’t flat out say which it is but apparently it’s one that people didn’t think was real. It could be this and the Geno photo. As far as banjo’s fingers go in promotional art he does have some long fingers and it maybe a still imagine just doesn’t give him justice.
 

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All family friendly and somewhat comedic weapons out of context. Peach even uses one of them.
Not that we're ever going to see Conker in Smash. Nintendo are not fans of the guy.
That's assuming they'll get near Rare stuff ever again beyond B-K's potential Smash inclusion. We'd be lucky if Banjo-Kazooie even gets included in a hypothetical N64 Mini…

At this stage, I would at least hope for a trophy, but I doubt any Rare stuff besides B-K will get referenced on the first go.

Which is what really upset me of how they handled Conker. How the **** do you make a remake of a Nintendo game on Xbox... TAMER?!
I know right, on a MATURE-oriented console, no less. The same console that had Ryu Hayabusa tear people into absolute shreds.
 
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CosmicQuark

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I found this image lol remember hotdoghands banjo ? was this leak ever debunked ?
The leak debunked itself :rotfl:

Here are the Banjo leaks from the imgur post:


And here's one not included in the Imgur post:


If anybody would like to pick them apart.
 

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So the guy who apparently leaked cloud back during Wii U DLC days is saying Nintendo is upset about a leaked photo that’s been out there. It’s not the Ken leak and he can’t flat out say which it is but apparently it’s one that people didn’t think was real. It could be this and the Geno photo. As far as banjo’s fingers go in promotional art he does have some long fingers and it maybe a still imagine just doesn’t give him justice.
I wish that was real.

Dixie Kong and Banjo-Kazooie in Smash along with King K. Rool would 100% satisfy me as a SNES/N64 era Rare fan.
 

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Only the last leak is cool enough. People said it was fake because the line under the nose, which is not on the center. But in fact, looking at official renders it never was. Of course it's fake but it's a nice touch.
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The leak debunked itself :rotfl:

Here are the Banjo leaks from the imgur post:


And here's one not included in the Imgur post:


If anybody would like to pick them apart.
Good post! Actually haven't seen a few of these leaks, some are (tch) obviously fake, but damn if I would love them to look like some of the renders posted on here. Hopefully when they get in they'll look as good if not better than the original CG renders from promotional material of the N64 games.
 

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EpicElliot

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wait hotdog banjo & "leak #9.1 & 9.2" where debunked ? how so ? (they where the only good looking ones to me ?)
 

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wait hotdog banjo & "leak #9.1 & 9.2" where debunked ? how so ? (they where the only good looking ones to me ?)
Hotdog Banjo technically never got debunked--and it has something going for it, in that it came with the Geno one that most people think could be real (but miles ahead in terms of looking real). Leak 9 kind of got debunked because--misalignments, freckles instead of whiskers, and the deathblow was finding Banjo & Kazooie art it could be mapped to. Still, nothing's ever 0% or 100% debunked, we just accumulate more evidence for/against until a reveal.
 

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Hotdog Banjo technically never got debunked--and it has something going for it, in that it came with the Geno one that most people think could be real (but miles ahead in terms of looking real). Leak 9 kind of got debunked because--misalignments, freckles instead of whiskers, and the deathblow was finding Banjo & Kazooie art it could be mapped to. Still, nothing's ever 0% or 100% debunked, we just accumulate more evidence for/against until a reveal.
aren’t the freckles just an art style to represent whiskers ?
 

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aren’t the freckles just an art style to represent whiskers ?
Notice the placement and shape of the dots. For the freckles on the leak, they're mishapened and sporadic, whereas on Banjo's original design, they're portrayed as whiskers, looking like dots in a circular pattern:



Perhaps it doesn't mean much, but it is an odd design choice change.
 

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I haven't posted in a while but I wanted to talk about all this business with the possible image leak that upset Nintendo apparently. Yes the Geno image everyone is latching onto accompanied the Banjo and Dixie image. I'm starting to think it could be legit and it's probably from an early build of the game. Hence Banjos rough walk cycle. That Banjo render is original and while the quality of the photo is meh, it's a good looking model, the "hot dog hands" can be attributed more to the shadowing of the poor photo than anything.

The Banjo-Dixie photo and the Geno photo have not been debunked and no one has come foreward taking credit for them. Whenever good fakes come out it usually doesn't take long for a person to take credit because they "fooled" people and want the exposure. No one's claimed these and they were honestly a bit under the radar in discussion..

I think they may be legit and don't forget when Shulk was a photoshopped little Mac, and when the ESRB images leaked people screamed fake until the videos came out. These could be the real deal.
 
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IT COULD BE BANJO TIME BOYS ! the leak people overlooked ? maybe all the steve stuff is to get people off the trail ? like the steve talk has people thinking its 100% from the way they talk about it & always saying banjo is just DLC ITS ARE TIME NOW ! >:D (but be prepared to be dissapointed if he don't happen tho :p we only have 50 days why not be hype)
 

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It’s not just Dixie and banjo in that leak (unless mistaking)

I believe geno is involved as well as a matter of fact look at these post from other threads

Hey, we've been cracking down on the Geno leak and we've finally found the stage! Thanks to @SSGuy's suggestion, we've focused the stage in the Geno leak to Delfino Plaza. We found this by going through the travelling stage and found a spot that matches the image almost perfectly.

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This means it isn't a new stage, and we now know where Geno is. The fact that it's a Mario stage is also very intriguing...
With this revelation, I decided a comparison is in order. Here's the supposedly leaked Geno image:

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Here's Smash Ultimate's Delfino Plaza skyline:

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And here's the Smash 4 skyline with Mii Geno as comparison:

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The sky color of the supposed leaked Geno image seems to be consistent with Smash Ultimate's color for Delfino Plaza's sky, which would explain why it looks different from the Smash 4 comparison.

...This isn't conclusive, but it's pretty big.
So it May actually be geno

But banjo and Dixie gain points if the same person of this leak did the banjo and Dixie leak
 

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People have been saying Vergeben has been pretty quiet lately and I for one believe he may have been bamboozled by a fake character leak and one of his sources may have heat on him or Verg himself might. It's entirely possible that some of the characters Verg said could have been bate and he slipped up. I'm not saying he was a fraud clearly he has info but it's possible that one of the characters he's backed so far could have been a trap.. it's possible we could be getting Dixie, Banjo, Ken, and Geno as our last reveals. That being said.. that Banjo and Dixie picture could be either on a Minecraft stage or Spiral Mountain. The green and brown match both the Minecraft standard block colors perfect but it could also be Spiral Mountains peak. Spiral Mountain could be a Delfino like stage where it scrolls around the valley and goes into Gruntys lair



Edit: I think that the Dixie and Banjo picture may be on Delfino Plaza, the brown and green could be the mountain in background the angle due to the platform flying over the backdrop of the stage, the Geno pic is speculated to be on that stage it's not crazy to assume the Dixie-Banjo pic is on it aswell.
 
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As much as I want Banjo we're roughly 50 days from launch and the game will go gold any day if it hasn't already. Sakurai wanted the full roster out before it leaked so we'll know it within a couple of weeks at the most.

Ken and Incineroar are coming, that's very sure but Banjo's chances for DLC, are very good in my expert opinion...
 

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Personally I don't believe those leaks. Blurry pics, weird details, cropped images... A classic for fakes. I believe in only one leak actually, the Ken image cause it's de best by far, if it's fake it's a level God fake. I really want Dixie and Banjo-Kazooie , the last ones for me, but those pics looks like hot crap. Also, why is people believing in some guy who says that there's a true leak around there without any proof? Actually making predictions for final base roster is like fishing in a barrel, few strong candidates left and even if this guy's claims are true it could be a coincidential fake.
 
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As much as I want Banjo we're roughly 50 days from launch and the game will go gold any day if it hasn't already. Sakurai wanted the full roster out before it leaked so we'll know it within a couple of weeks at the most.

Ken and Incineroar are coming, that's very sure but Banjo's chances for DLC, are very good in my expert opinion...
Sakurai is just shooting himself in the foot by waiting any longer. I think he's underestimating how easily things are leaked. Also I'm impatient.
 

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people said photoshoped little mac looked like "hot crap" & bowser jr was just a brawl mod & that turend out to be true. usually leaks people dismiss turn out to be real, remember when people said any leaks that have ridley on should be dismissed right away just B/C so many people beleved it to be LAW that he could never be in ?
 

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So the guy who apparently leaked cloud back during Wii U DLC days is saying Nintendo is upset about a leaked photo that’s been out there. It’s not the Ken leak and he can’t flat out say which it is but apparently it’s one that people didn’t think was real. It could be this and the Geno photo. As far as banjo’s fingers go in promotional art he does have some long fingers and it maybe a still imagine just doesn’t give him justice.
Imo it looks more like Banjo is clenching his fists, and what people are saying are his fingers is just the shading of his tendons on his hand giving off the "hotdog fingers" look.

Also about the image with Banjo and Kazooie looking at each other, does Banjo look a bit pale in comparison to his skin tone from his games? Banjo's look in general just looks like whoever made this didn't finish the shading for Banjo's design. Or at least gives off that impression. Kazooie looks interesting but I wish the head feathers were bigger.
 

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As much as I want Banjo we're roughly 50 days from launch and the game will go gold any day if it hasn't already. Sakurai wanted the full roster out before it leaked so we'll know it within a couple of weeks at the most.

Ken and Incineroar are coming, that's very sure but Banjo's chances for DLC, are very good in my expert opinion...
I think my biggest worry is since Banjo & Kazooie are so big, and from a third party, I would have suspected to hear some kind of rumor. That being said, the rumor mill kinda passed King K Rool by. I'd say given Spencer's tweet and Banjo & Kazooie's popularity soared during the ballot in 2015, Microsoft's rumored to be a part of Ultimate somehow, and Microsoft's gone back to their N64 designs this year make Banjo & Kazooie way more likely for the base than people think. Are they very likely? No. But if we have any unique character not rumored by Verge, especially a third party, I'd say Banjo & Kazooie is the most likely out of anybody to be in.
 

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people said photoshoped little mac looked like "hot crap" & bowser jr was just a brawl mod & that turend out to be true. usually leaks people dismiss turn out to be real, remember when people said any leaks that have ridley on should be dismissed right away just B/C so many people beleved it to be LAW that he could never be in ?
A valid argument, but that Dixie and Banjo image actually looks awful. Dixie is way too big compared to Banjo and her hair looks like an image on another layer that was simply lined up with the side of her head, as opposed to the actual origin of her ponytail. Banjo has the fingers of Mr. Fibb from Codename Kids Next Door and his gait is far too stiff and wide.
 

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I think my biggest worry is since Banjo & Kazooie are so big, and from a third party, I would have suspected to hear some kind of rumor. That being said, the rumor mill kinda passed King K Rool by. I'd say given Spencer's tweet and Banjo & Kazooie's popularity soared during the ballot in 2015, Microsoft's rumored to be a part of Ultimate somehow, and Microsoft's gone back to their N64 designs this year make Banjo & Kazooie way more likely for the base than people think. Are they very likely? No. But if we have any unique character not rumored by Verge, especially a third party, I'd say Banjo & Kazooie is the most likely out of anybody to be in.
I don't think that fear is necessarily founded. Cloud wasn't leaked (aside from by someone who saw the direct slightly early which can't be helped).
 

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As much as I want Banjo we're roughly 50 days from launch and the game will go gold any day if it hasn't already. Sakurai wanted the full roster out before it leaked so we'll know it within a couple of weeks at the most.

Ken and Incineroar are coming, that's very sure but Banjo's chances for DLC, are very good in my expert opinion...
I feel the same way, While I hope Banjo-Kazooie make the base, But if they don't their chances for DLC seem very high, because once we get a couple more fighters in the base before launch their won't really be that much wiggle room for other newcomers with that much star power and would give Sakurai no choice ,But to go for one of the most deserving and obvious newcomers, Not to mention Banjo-Kazooie are a current top 3 request and the big elephant in the room that has been heavily requested since early 2015.
 
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A valid argument, but that Dixie and Banjo image actually looks awful. Dixie is way too big compared to Banjo and her hair looks like an image on another layer that was simply lined up with the side of her head, as opposed to the actual origin of her ponytail. Banjo has the fingers of Mr. Fibb from Codename Kids Next Door and his gait is far too stiff and wide.
Dixie isn't actually that disproportionate look now big Diddy is in comparison to Beyonetta

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and in the picture Dixie is jumping while Banjo is walking so she's higher than he is.

For how old this picture is the animation's probably were still being refined. For all we know this was a test for the models on a stage.... of the Geno picture everyone seems to think is legit is being seriously considered than so should this pic.

Plus I'd just like to sat that the ESRB leaks and the shulk leak were heavily criticized.. Shulk was photoshoped little mac... Duck hunt Dog didn't fit the look of Smash 4 etc. They ended up being real. I don't think that Dixie render looks awful it actually looks quite good. Her design brings back element's from DKC2 like her kneepads... which is something I feel a fake would overlook as modern Dixie doesnt have them. The Banjo also looks very good. If it is fake it's not being given enough credit because its very convincing, it's pretty telling that hasnt been debunked yet. The Ken leak which is also pretty much considered real at this point was also being ripped apart. People were saying Kens face looked too goofy. Until you have HD clear pictures of the renders they can look bad.
 
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Dixie isn't actually that disproportionate look now big Diddy is in comparison to Beyonetta

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and in the picture Dixie is jumping while Banjo is walking so she's higher than he is.

For how old this picture is the animation's probably were still being refined. For all we know this was a test for the models on a stage.... of the Geno picture everyone seems to think is legit is being seriously considered than so should this pic.

Plus I'd just like to sat that the ESRB leaks and the shulk leak were heavily criticized.. Shulk was photoshoped little mac... Duck hunt Dog didn't fit the look of Smash 4 etc. They ended up being real. I don't think that Dixie render looks awful it actually looks quite good. Her design brings back element's from DKC2 like her kneepads... which is something I feel a fake would overlook as modern Dixie doesnt have them. The Banjo also looks very good. If it is fake it's not being given enough credit because its very convincing, it's pretty telling that hasnt been debunked yet. The Ken leak which is also pretty much considered real at this point was also being ripped apart. People were saying Kens face looked too goofy. Until you have HD clear pictures of the renders they can look bad.
Alright, you've potentially proven me wrong on the size argument, but even the Ken render looked better than that Dixie. She honestly looks like a fan imitation of a Smashified piece. The hair is most certainly out of place and her eyes aren't right. Diddy and Donkey have actual eyelids where as that wink she's doing is just her pupil constricting like some old-timey cartoon. It's not consistent with what we already know, or even the Geno picture it came with. It's not real, man.
 

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that's how I feel about the Ken leak it looks FAKE to me LOL
 
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