ban stadium

[Math_Hoffa]

i mean c'monnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

 

[rjgbadger]

Stadium without a doubt is the next stage to go.

'just deal with it and wait' is not a valid strategy for the ****ty as hell transformations

 

[Kadano]

Using the transformations disable hack is a valid strategy though, imho.

Grass transformation only would be nice as well.

But yeah, I've never been too fond of vanilla PS as well.

 

[JKJ]

Vanilla PS is a great stage.
Unless it became a rule to wait out the transformations (which would be stupid, but would work) then the stage should go. Too broken.

 

[the_CAM_factor]

kill it with fire

 

[.toasty]

kill it with fire

Don't forget rock, it was killed by fire and rock

 

[BTmoney]

Using the transformations disable hack is a valid strategy though, imho.
But yeah, I've never been too fond of vanilla PS as well.

You don't like vanilla PS? I wishhhhhhhhhhh it didn't transform or tournaments had transformations off

 

[Strong Badam]

ps2 is good ps1 is dumb




wait wrong forum

 

[Bones0]

ps2 is good ps1 is dumb




wait wrong forum

Get out of here you Sony fanboy.

 

[EPsilon933]

Neutral, grass, and maybe also water are good transformations. Rock and fire would be banned if they were their own stages. So the stage is like 75% legal. Idk the actual transformation timings

 

[Math_Hoffa]

yeah the transformations suck, and the fact that it has stayed legal this long is a testament to the dominant influence of fox, falco, and falcon players on the community's policymaking

5 stages is perfect.

PS is too uniformly and objectively an advantage for FFers, esp fox. Banning it would also streamline the stage list by eliminating the need for the special CP category that only exists for stadium nowadays.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

This is one of my favorite stages regardless of the transformation. It spends such little time on any of them that I usually just forget about it.

 

[C_Mill24]

Yeah, the transformations do affect the flow of the match, but it doesn't do it too much. If anyone tries making the argument that Fox can do an infinite in the pit area of the rock stage and you say it's a reason the stage should be banned, don't go down there Jeff!

I think the stage is fine as a legal stage.

 

[Zylo]

I love PS1, even when I'm playing on there as Marth. The rock and fire transformations affect the outcome of the match so little that I think they're a negligible negative aspect of the stage. 6 stages is fine.

 

[PiBs]

We can keep stadium as they as we had more counterpick stages like muty city, brinstar, and DK64. The stage counterpick of pokemon stadium favours the top characters fox and falco to heavily. Floaties want a counterpick too! Also I love stage diversity and mute city is awesome.

 

[Landry]

NOOOOOOO. I love stadium....

 

[1MachGO]

PS has both faults and merits when considering how it compliments the stage list. Characters who thrive off situations with no top platform or low ceilings benefit from it tremendously since Yoshi's and FD are commonly banned in many match ups; losing pokemon would harm their abilities to counterpick in the majority of the bracket.

With that said, almost all of the transformations are degenerative, jank **** with no place in the competitive scene and only benefit a select few characters with the mobility to take advantage of them. Despite that, I would begrudgingly promote the stage should be kept legal.

 

[-ShadowPhoenix-]

Stadium is a necessity for 20XX. Pls leave.

 

[EPsilon933]

We can keep stadium as they as we had more counterpick stages like muty city, brinstar, and DK64. The stage counterpick of pokemon stadium favours the top characters fox and falco to heavily. Floaties want a counterpick too! Also I love stage diversity and mute city is awesome.

Because character balancing is a terrible reason to consider stage banning/legalizing. Also, there's some pretty jank things about Mute City, Brinstar, and DK64 like no ledges and too small of a main floor and cars, and lava and a non-flat main floor and a splittable stage, and a circle for people to run away and camp on. PS doesn't have problems anywhere nearly as bad as those things

 

[Math_Hoffa]

adding more stages is stupid

can't you guys see that this game is more interesting if we keep stage variation to a minimum

 

[TerryJ]

I can understand why some people would want PS banned outright but it also has good transformations too like Water and Grass. I personally just want more counterpick stages and Mute City being one of them.

 

[Gravitirax]

I enjoy stadium. If there's anything that should be banned, it's yoshi's story. Screw shy guys and clouds and all of it. I want it gone.

 

[Luma]

I enjoy stadium. If there's anything that should be banned, it's yoshi's story. Screw shy guys and clouds and all of it. I want it gone.

randall is perfectly fine
shy guys though...

 

[SpiderJerusalem]

git gud

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

FD Only

End the reign of spacies once and for all!

 

[KrIsP!]

I wish stadium didn't transform, even as a puff main I like it better than FD

 

[SAUS]

FD Only

End the reign of spacies once and for all!

How would that end the reign of spacies? It would just mean M2K beats everyone even more easily.

I wish stadium didn't transform, even as a puff main I like it better than FD

I wish it didn't transform as well. I feel like the stage layout is good for the game, but the transformations really suck.

 

[HodgyDot]

yeah the transformations suck, and the fact that it has stayed legal this long is a testament to the dominant influence of fox, falco, and falcon players on the community's policymaking

5 stages is perfect.

PS is too uniformly and objectively an advantage for FFers, esp fox. Banning it would also streamline the stage list by eliminating the need for the special CP category that only exists for stadium nowadays.

5 stages are far from perfect i think, i would love to see Yoshis and Kongo Jungles come on, hell even Jungle Drapes. I believe the more maps would allow for less stale bo5's. Also these maps at one point or another seemed to be played on.

 

[1MachGO]

^The layouts of all the DK stages are too conducive to camping

Mute City is probably the only stage that might come close to Pokemon Stadium's debatable level of legality. Mute City's transformations are at least predictable and the changes favor more than one character besides Fox, Falco, and Falcon.

The size of the main platform might be pretty sh*tty for a lot of characters though.

 

[SpiderJerusalem]

5 stages are far from perfect i think, i would love to see Yoshis and Kongo Jungles come on, hell even Jungle Drapes. I believe the more maps would allow for less stale bo5's. Also these maps at one point or another seemed to be played on.

Jungle Japes should stay banned

 

[Problem2]

If we banned Stadium, then best of 5's would be played on every stage left!
EDIT: I know DSR has been modified, but if we boil it down to 5 stages, may as well go everywhere in bo5.

 

[EPsilon933]

If we banned Stadium, then best of 5's would be played on every stage left!
EDIT: I know DSR has been modified, but if we boil it down to 5 stages, may as well go everywhere in bo5.

I think players would fairly frequently prefer salty runbacking

 

[R2_GP]

i want gray bay....a man can dream right??

 

[Chuckles]

Jesus, yes please ban stadium, melee BR or whoever makes rules. I love the neutral transformation but that's about it. Just my 2 cents.

 

[cisyphus]

Starters: Final Destination, Yoshi's Story, Battlefield, Fountain of Dreams, and Dream Land
Counterpicks: Mute City, Pokemon Stadium, Brinstar, Kongo Jungle, and Poke Floats

How can it get any more perfect?

 

[EPsilon933]

Starters: Final Destination, Yoshi's Story, Battlefield, Fountain of Dreams, and Dream Land
Counterpicks: Mute City, Pokemon Stadium, Brinstar, Kongo Jungle, and Poke Floats

How can it get any more perfect?

Is this serious?

 

[Laudandus]

I think the Fox/Sheik matchup is Fox favored right now because Pokemon is legal, and would be even (slight fox favor in bo5's due to Final Destination) if stupid Kanto-see-yourself stadium was gone

 

[Splash]

I think I'm one of a few people who would rather have Mute City be legal instead of Pokemon Stadium lol.

 

[Thor]

FD Only
End the reign of spacies once and for all!

SOMEBODY wants M2K to win everything... although I admittedly enjoy watching him play.

How would that end the reign of spacies? It would just mean M2K beats everyone even more easily.

I mean, M2K isn't a spacie, except versus Hbox... so... this sort of works?

Starters: Final Destination, Yoshi's Story, Battlefield, Fountain of Dreams, and Dream Land
Counterpicks: Mute City, Pokemon Stadium, Brinstar, Kongo Jungle, and Poke Floats
How can it get any more perfect?

Is this serious?

No. He was obviously joking about Mute City, Pokémon Stadium, Brinstar, and Kongo Jungle.

Rest of the list is super legit though.

Actually it's not, cuz cisyphus forgot Big Blue.

 

[IceyBeef]

They should ban stadium, unless there was a hack or something to have transformations not happen.