Autocancel Fair help?

[Jackson]

I'm really interested in this and it seems really potent but I need help getting the timing down. Can anyone give me a solid description of what they usually do in order to do AC fairs?

 

[Scroll]

Have you looked at the frame data?

 

[EddyBearr]

I think a good way to practice it is if you can dash away before the opponent can shield grab you if you fair their shield. You'd need someone to practice with. Also, look at the frame data of it to understand it better if you haven't/don't already.

 

[Jackson]

I think a good way to practice it is if you can dash away before the opponent can shield grab you if you fair their shield. You'd need someone to practice with. Also, look at the frame data of it to understand it better if you haven't/don't already.

Good advice, thank you.

 

[Scroll]

Taken from the Frame Data thread

Total: 33
Hit: 5-7
Auto cancel: <4, >11
Landlag: 16
L canceled: 8

So as long as you start the Fair 12 frames before you hit the ground you're AC'ing it.
SH air time: 38
Earliest FF: 20
SH FF air time: 27
See the hitbox ends at frame 7. So I guess a visual cue on the animation is if you land after Sheik's left (hitting) hand is below her, you're good.

 

[Jackson]

Taken from the Frame Data thread

Total: 33
Hit: 5-7
Auto cancel: <4, >11
Landlag: 16
L canceled: 8

So as long as you start the Fair 12 frames before you hit the ground you're AC'ing it.
SH air time: 38
Earliest FF: 20
SH FF air time: 27
See the hitbox ends at frame 7. So I guess a visual cue on the animation is if you land after Sheik's left (hitting) hand is below her, you're good.

oh wow it's anything greater than 11. Lol i thought it was to land exactly on frame 11, i guess that's why i thought it would be hard. Thanks for clearing this up for me.

 

[soap]

start the fair at the top of the short hop, then fastfall, and it should autocancel and hit relatively low to the ground.

play with the timings, it's useful to switch it up.

 

[Jackson]

start the fair at the top of the short hop, then fastfall, and it should autocancel and hit relatively low to the ground.

play with the timings, it's useful to switch it up.

What is the shortest character that an AC Fair like this?

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

If you have 20XX Hackpack, you can set the character flash red whenever you miss an L-cancel. If you do the Fair too late Sheik will flash red. Also, a great practice tip from KK:

"- SH FF Fair AC > Hit the standing Kirby with it and retain the AC"

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s336...2330389c4541/6ead7180882f75014f981c18c4827fb5