Arceus, the God of Pokémon, for Brawl! V2.1! A.R.C.E.U.S. Group GO!

[gamer8]

If arceus was in brawl, along with ridley, my life would be complete.

 

[EPX2]

Doesn't really seem popular enough to make it in... yes, I know you addressed this with the case of Pokemon Trainer, but remember, PT's basically a compromise of sorts to include three fairly popular Pokemon without taking up three separate spots on the roster. I really doubt that if PT's gimmick weren't implemented (i.e. he was fighting as a standalone character and not relying on his Pokemon) that he'd have made it into Brawl. He's an important character, but it's undeniable that the "real" stars of the Pokemon games are the monsters themselves, imo.

 

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Doesn't really seem popular enough to make it in... yes, I know you addressed this with the case of Pokemon Trainer, but remember, PT's basically a compromise of sorts to include three fairly popular Pokemon without taking up three separate spots on the roster. I really doubt that if PT's gimmick weren't implemented (i.e. he was fighting as a standalone character and not relying on his Pokemon) that he'd have made it into Brawl. He's an important character, but it's undeniable that the "real" stars of the Pokemon games are the monsters themselves, imo.

Actually, Sakurai could've put them all in seperately. He has total freedom, remember? He intentionally put them all together under the Trainer. But I guess you do have a somewhat good point.

All of the pokemon in Smash have been in a game, that doesn't take away the fact that they became iconic to the pokemon franchise due to the movies and the anime, with pokemon, being in a game isn't enough to grant them a playable spot.

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All of the pokemon in Smash have been in a game, that doesn't take away the fact that they became iconic to the pokemon franchise due to the movies and the anime, with pokemon, being in a game isn't enough to grant them a playable spot.

...I'm going to ignore you due to lack of sense.

 

[MysticKenji]

Pikachu became popular due to the games, which is why he got a starring role in the anime.

 

[vesperview]

All of the pokemon in Smash prove me right, Pikachu = Anime, Jigglypuff = Anime, Mewtwo = Movie, Squirtle , Ivysaur and Charizard = Games and anime.

 

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All of the pokemon in Smash prove me right, Pikachu = Anime, Jigglypuff = Anime, Mewtwo = Movie, Squirtle , Ivysaur and Charizard = Games and anime.

All of the Pokémon in Melee prove you right, yes. And if this were Melee, I would completly agree with you.

But this is Brawl.

And not a 300 reference.

That would be stupid.

 

[Limit]

To be quite honest, the only thing Arceus has going for him is this one-of-a-kind multitype ability.

But due to the move's randomness, functionality during combat, and possible imbalance between each type, etc. -- Arceus would be better suited as a Pokeball Pokemon using his signature move to effect the entire battle.

Instead, try to come with a good concept for his Judgment ability, and just hope that he makes it in Brawl inside a Pokeball rather than advocate the improbable.

Sorry

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

You.. Really didn't read the first post, didn't you.. Because you're an idiot, I will repeat myself. As a God, he could grab opponents with his psychic powers. Because, if you're a God you wouldn't ACTUALLY grab them. Second, he created the universe using it's THOUSAND ARMS.

I'll ignore the needless name-calling, but let me ask you something. Do you honestly and thruthfully believe deep down that Arceus will appear as a playable character?

 

[vesperview]

All of the Pokémon in Melee prove you right, yes. And if this were Melee, I would completly agree with you.

But this is Brawl.

And not a 300 reference.

That would be stupid.

Oh please, you honestly believe that Sakurai browses the list of 493 pokemon and picks one at random to be playable? Of course not! Lucario and Darkrai are some of the few choices left, Brawl won't be different.

 

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I'll ignore the needless name-calling, but let me ask you something. Do you honestly and thruthfully believe deep down that Arceus will appear as a playable character?

He has a chance. I support him with all my might because I want this character in Brawl. Because I believe that Arceus can make it in Brawl. This is the Speculation boards after all.

To be quite honest, the only thing Arceus has going for him is this one-of-a-kind multitype ability.

Jigglypuff has nothing except singing. And look.

But what do you suggest? Lucario? Who can punch a bit and use Aura Sphere? Darkrai? Puts people to sleep and use some nightmares?

Arceus would be unique as a four-legged character, and would suprise everybody. A lot of the suggested Pokémon can hardly be considered a unique character.

Oh please, you honestly believe that Sakurai browses the list of 493 pokemon and picks one at random to be playable? Of course not! Lucario and Darkrai are some of the few choices left, Brawl won't be different.

Why wouldn't he browse the list? Can you tell what Sakurai does? No. I can't tell either.

 

[platnum]

I FULLY SUPORT ARCEUS!!!



arceus for brawl!

 

[gamer8]

All of the Pokémon in Melee prove you right, yes. And if this were Melee, I would completly agree with you.

But this is Brawl.

And not a 300 reference.

That would be stupid.

Where do you find those icons that you have in your sig?

 

[courte]

being god sounds like a reason for a boss

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

He has a chance. I support him with all my might because I want this character in Brawl. Because I believe that Arceus can make it in Brawl. This is the Speculation boards after all.

In that case I pity you, and I excuse your calling me an idiot as part of your own mental deficiency. Arceus does not have a chance. I'm 100% certain of that, and if I'm wrong I'll mail you my firstborn child.

 

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In that case I pity you, and I excuse your calling me an idiot as part of your own mental deficiency. Arceus does not have a chance. I'm 100% certain of that, and if I'm wrong I'll mail you my firstborn child.

BREAKFAST!

Where do you find those icons that you have in your sig?

In a thread somewhere. If you mean the Arceus ones - they're on the first post!

 

[SolidCrispy]

Arceus would be interesting. Ever since PT was announced, almost any character has a chance at inclusion. I like Lucario more, but Arceus would be far more surprising.

As for the bi-pedal argument, have people forgotten Ivysaur?

 

[antimatter]

The day arceus arrives in brawl as a character will be the same day as the apocolypse. he would come out of a pokeball like the Legendary birds, dogs, and dinosaurs and do Judgement.

 

[Limit]

But what do you suggest? Lucario? Who can punch a bit and use Aura Sphere? Darkrai? Puts people to sleep and use some nightmares?

Arceus would be unique as a four-legged character, and would suprise everybody. A lot of the suggested Pokémon can hardly be considered a unique character.

Exactly. You've figured it all out -- the Pokemon Trainer is basically Sakurai's way of saying "to hell with all the Pokemon suggestions" and just balling up the entire franchise into one character.

Pokemon Trainer is unique, the rest of them aren't.

 

[bored]

Darkrai would be better.

 

[The Red Death]

While your moveset was interesting, and Arceus would be a unique addition, I still
think that he would be better suited to a pokeball.

 

[DreamFiend633]

Arceus WON'T be revealed before January 24th. And just because the fans know about him, doesn't mean he is officially announced. There is NO way Arceus will be in, even as a PokeBall. You'll just have to wait until SSB4.

 

[MysticKenji]

There is NO way Arceus will be in, even as a PokeBall.

And you know this because you work for Sakurai?

 

[vesperview]

Why wouldn't he browse the list? Can you tell what Sakurai does? No. I can't tell either.

Yeah, he is SO gonna browse the entire pokemon list and pick one at random to be playable[/sarcasm] Get real!

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

As for the bi-pedal argument, have people forgotten Ivysaur?

Ivysaur has vines that act as his arms. There's a very strong chance that he uses them to hold items or grab opponents.

There is NO way Arceus will be in, even as a PokeBall. You'll just have to wait until SSB4.

You're pushing it to say he won't be an item Pokémon. What does an official announcement have to do with anything? He's in a game that has been released, that's all that matters. They don't announce each and every Pokémon individually do they?

But to expect Arceus as a playable character is like expecting Quadraxis from Metroid as a playable character. Similar in terms of Smash compatibility (meaning none) and similar in overall series importance (not that great).

 

[SolidCrispy]

Ivysaur has vines that act as his arms. There's a very strong chance that he uses them to hold items or grab opponents.

Agreed, but couldn't Arceus do something similar in theory? Especially since he can take on any type.

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

Agreed, but couldn't Arceus do something similar in theory? Especially since he can take on any type.

I don't know enough to say. But I was under the impression that he simply changed colors when a plate was attached.

 

[flyinfilipino]

You're pushing it to say he won't be an item Pokémon. What does an official announcement have to do with anything? He's in a game that has been released, that's all that matters. They don't announce each and every Pokémon individually do they?

No, but in the case of special event Pokemon like Arceus, yes they do. We only know of Arceus because it's been hacked. They haven't acknowledged Arceus or Shaymin at all, so unless Nintendo plans on unveiling them in someway before Brawl's Japanese release, then don't expect to see either of them in Brawl.

 

[firerikku546]

Stop the fighting and the arguing you guys should just wait until (key word) FEBURARY! that means arcuis can be in!

 

[Princess Diana]

Do you really think sakurai's going to be an *** and ruin gamefreak's revealing of arcues?

Either way if he does get in in any way shape or form i'll be ok with it

 

[firerikku546]

Do you really think sakurai's going to be an *** and ruin gamefreak's revealing of arcues?

Either way if he does get in in any way shape or form i'll be ok with it

He did with mew and celebi so he will with arcues.

 

[flyinfilipino]

He did with mew and celebi so he will with arcues.

By the time Mew and Celebi were in Melee, they'd already been established by Gamefreak. See my ^above post.

 

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Arceus WON'T be revealed before January 24th.

Proof plz.

Yeah, he is SO gonna browse the entire pokemon list and pick one at random to be playable[/sarcasm] Get real!

You're right! Instead, he checks SmashBoards!

"Ivysaur?" "Bipedal, man! No quadruplets!"
"Charizard?" "Already in a Pokéball!"
"Mewtwo?" "Legendaries only go into a Pokéball!"
"Alright, how about Jigglypuff?" "Unimportant and not popular enough!"
"Squirtle?" "Blastoise is in a Pokéball!"
"Pichu?" "He's a clone and does damage to himself! Are you crazy?"

...Yeah.

All Arceus supporters - go to the first post for something new!

 

[ThoraxeRMG]

Too bad Arceus ant' good as the great Mew.

 

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^ Opinions, opinions.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Arceus WON'T be revealed before January 24th. And just because the fans know about him, doesn't mean he is officially announced. There is NO way Arceus will be in, even as a PokeBall. You'll just have to wait until SSB4.

The Brawl appearance COULD be the official revelation....

Super Secret Character anyone? Though, probably any secret spot would do for this, maybe even a starter slot, since any appearance and description would count as an official revelation.

If this is intended to be his official revelation it sidesteps all the pupularity issues as well as lack of official announcement. And if they tied Brawl to getting the Azure Flute, nice sale increases anyone?

In that case I pity you, and I excuse your calling me an idiot as part of your own mental deficiency. Arceus does not have a chance. I'm 100% certain of that, and if I'm wrong I'll mail you my firstborn child.

He said "can", not "will" and truthfully, anything CAN happen, but most WILL NOT.

It's not impossible, just highly improbable, and if people keep staking their firstborn on something highly improbable not happening then eventually somebody is gonna lose the bet.

Even one in ten million is still a chance, and eventually that one in ten million chance will occur.

Ivysaur has vines that act as his arms. There's a very strong chance that he uses them to hold items or grab opponents.

Arceus shaped the universe with his thousand arms, while he might not literally have arms, this does require him to have some sort of grasping apendage , either literally or a psionic one similar to mewtwo. Arceus does learn Seismic Toss naturally and as his most basic move as well, surely he has some way to grasp things.

Add that to the fact that he has several basic attacks that are psionic in nature and problem solved, no? Add to that the fact that he has a thousand of them, and I think that psionic grasping appendages make the most sense.

He can grab things.

 

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^ Pretty much summing up what I've been saying all these pages.

Only better.

 

[platnum]

Too bad Arceus ant' good as the great Mew.

ARE YOU INSANE!!!


my arceus PWND an entire team of legendarys by itself!



mew could NEVER beat arceus!

 

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

He said "can", not "will" and truthfully, anything CAN happen, but most WILL NOT.

It's not impossible, just highly improbable, and if people keep staking their firstborn on something highly improbable not happening then eventually somebody is gonna lose the bet.

Even one in ten million is still a chance, and eventually that one in ten million chance will occur.

K, but there won't be ten million chances. Right now we're on three, and that could be the last one.

Smash’s rules are different from Pokémon’s. In Pokémon, you see a little animation of the Pokémon’s sprite moving forward a bit and then maybe the opposing Pokémon flashing to show it just got damaged. In Melee you actually need arms to use arm-related moves. And Mewtwo uses psychic powers to grab things, but it still involves his arms.[/FONT]

mew could NEVER beat arceus!

K, what if Mew was Lv. 100 and Arceus Lv. 80, and was a poison-type?

 

[platnum]

K, but there won't be ten million chances. Right now we're on three, and that could be the last one.


Smash’s rules are different from Pokémon’s. In Pokémon, you see a little animation of the Pokémon’s sprite moving forward a bit and then maybe the opposing Pokémon flashing to show it just got damaged. In Melee you actually need arms to use arm-related moves. And Mewtwo uses psychic powers to grab things, but it still involves his arms.


K, what if Mew was Lv. 100 and Arceus Lv. 80, and was a poison-type?

maybe.

but arceus would still be faster and would probably nail mew with hyper beam(my last resort if all else fails) before mew could use psycick

 

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Smash’s rules are different from Pokémon’s. In Pokémon, you see a little animation of the Pokémon’s sprite moving forward a bit and then maybe the opposing Pokémon flashing to show it just got damaged. In Melee you actually need arms to use arm-related moves. And Mewtwo uses psychic powers to grab things, but it still involves his arms.

'Rules'? Smash has rules? They put every crazy thing together.

But yes, Mewtwo holds his arm out and uses his psychic power. But, y'know, Arceus isn't Mewtwo. And just because you can't picture Arceus using his thousand arms, doesn't mean it's impossible.

Oh, yeah, and Arceus is a god. He doesn't NEED arms to grab stuff. I mean, come on. If you were a god, you'd sit on your *** all day, and use your powers to do stuff for you. Because you can.