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Smash Hero
Mods, please don't close this topic. I wanted to make a new one since the other one was just a mere suggestion, and nothing in the first page, making us continually assaulted by the same argument over and over.
Diamond PokéDex: "It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1000 arms."
Pearl PokéDex: "It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed."
What does this guy have over Lucario and Darkrai?
1. Game importance. As you know, the GOD of the world. And pretty much ALL the myths in Sinnoh being about him. And the plates you find everywhere? Darkrai has game importance though. Like - once. And that's ACTUALLY all about Cresselia. Lucario has... Well, hardly any. You can get him in an egg. Wait... Happiny for Brawl!
2. He would be original and would bring something NEW to Smash, rather than a normal punch-kick character. I guess Darkrai has more originality than Lucario, but Arceus would have way more.
3. Nintendo realizes the popularity boosts characters get through Smash. Put Arceus in, Arceus becomes popular and everybody wants one. Make an event for Arceus, thousands of people will come, and the movie with Arceus will be even more popular, thus making MORE MONEY. And if the third 4th gen game has Arceus on the box cover, people'll want it because they know him from Smash.
4. Popularity has virtually no influence on Pokémon characters. Or, rather, not ANYMORE, apparently. So far Pikachu (who is THE Pokémon icon. And important in Pokémon Yellow (which was made BECAUSE of the animé, but I disgress)) and the Pokémon Trainer have been confirmed. Sakurai HAD to put Pikachu in (along with Mario, Link and Kirby). Then he decided to go with.... Game importance!
5. 4th gen representation? Well, Lucario and Darkrai have this too. Nevermind.
Arceus can't be in Brawl, he's too big!
Bowser, Kirby, Pikachu... Weren't they all too big or too small? Looks like they resized them. They can do it with Arceus as well.
Status: Purged.
Arceus is a Legendary with a signature attack. He should be a Pokéball!
Who says every Legendary with a signature attack should be a Pokéball? Mewtwo is a Legendary. He got in Melee.
Status: Not purged enough.
Arceus isn't popular enough to be in Brawl!
Pokémon Trainer. 'Nuff said.
Status: Purged.
Arceus isn't even revealed yet!
Wait a minute... Brawl comes out on January 24th in Japan. Who says he doesn't get revealed before that time? And chances are pretty much every Pokémon fan already knows this guy. AND, Sakurai got complete freedom with this game except for Mario's, Link's, Pikachu's and Kirby's inclusion.
Status: Purged.
He has four legs and nothing too grab with!
Ivysaur says hi. Also, he created the world with his THOUSAND ARMS. AND - my moveset gives a good enough answer for that. If a randomer can do it, so can a whole frikkin' company.
Status: Purged.
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Arceus, The Alpha Pokémon, God of All, The Original One.
Character Description
Arceus (Japanese: アルセウス Arseus) is the last Legendary Pokémon of Generation IV and the final Pokémon in the National Pokédex as of that generation.
Arceus is known as "The Original One," as it is said that it created the universe and Palkia, Dialga, and the lake trio. The only known way to get Arceus is with the Azure Flute (also known as The Key of Space and Time). Arceus has not yet been officially revealed.
I have no idea who did this art but it's AMAZING
Arceus is an equine being that may be based on a horse-like mammal or qilin. Its body is white, has a gray underside and its four pointed feet are tipped with gold hooves. Its mane is quite long and its face is gray with green eyes. It also has a cross-like wheel attached to its body, which changes color based on Arceus' current type.
Acording to legend, Arceus created the universe and 5 legendary Pokémon, Palkia, Dialga and the lake trio.
While Arceus may be a pure Normal-type, due to Arceus's Multitype ability allows for its type to change into any of the other 16 types depending on what type of special plate it holds.
Arceus's signature move, Judgment, also changes its type depending on the type of special plate Arceus is holding. Arceus also has the ability to use several attacks of various types, but to a lesser extent than Mew.
Arceus is known as "The Original One," as it is said that it created the universe and Palkia, Dialga, and the lake trio. The only known way to get Arceus is with the Azure Flute (also known as The Key of Space and Time). Arceus has not yet been officially revealed.




I have no idea who did this art but it's AMAZING
Arceus is an equine being that may be based on a horse-like mammal or qilin. Its body is white, has a gray underside and its four pointed feet are tipped with gold hooves. Its mane is quite long and its face is gray with green eyes. It also has a cross-like wheel attached to its body, which changes color based on Arceus' current type.
Acording to legend, Arceus created the universe and 5 legendary Pokémon, Palkia, Dialga and the lake trio.
While Arceus may be a pure Normal-type, due to Arceus's Multitype ability allows for its type to change into any of the other 16 types depending on what type of special plate it holds.
Arceus's signature move, Judgment, also changes its type depending on the type of special plate Arceus is holding. Arceus also has the ability to use several attacks of various types, but to a lesser extent than Mew.
Diamond PokéDex: "It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1000 arms."
Pearl PokéDex: "It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed."
Moveset
Flying Dutchman said:STATS:
SIZE: **** (Smaller than Bowser and DK, but only by a little bit)
WEIGHT: *** (Not as heavy as Bowser, but heavier than say.. Mario. Just a bit above average)
SPEED: ** (dashing speed about the same as Link's)
POWER: ****
TRACTION: ** (he floats, so there isn't a lot of traction)
Arceus floats a little bit above the ground, hovering so to say. His first jump is fairly low, but his second jump has 16 directions to go in and is quite long (smaller than Yoshi's second jump though).
GROUND MOVES:
Jab (A):
A small 'power pulse' with short range. Reaches front and back, with average knockback.
Forward Tilt:
Arceus lunges forward, slamming the foe away. Okay knockback, average range.
Up Tilt:
Arceus shoots a small beam forward that controls the opponent and flings him upward. Medium range, okay knockback, not a lot of damage. Small amount of lag if the beam doesn't hit. Main launching move.
Down Tilt:
Arceus spins and shoots a small quake forward, with quite good range for a downtilt. The damage and knockback aren't too good, but the lack of lag makes up for it.
Forward Smash: Arceus uses Earth Power!
Arceus shoots a small beam, targeting an opponent. The beam goes about as far as Marth's Forward Smash. When the opponent is targeted, they can't move anymore and the ground under them shakes and explodes. The opponent can not escape from this. While this is the most powerful Smash attack that Arceus has, it has a lot of lag if the attack doesn't hit and charging it only increases range a little bit.
Up Smash: Arceus uses Seismic Toss!
Arceus grabs the opponent and flies up with him.. Only to come back a second later, crashing his opponent into the floor. It does a lot of damage, but it has some lag after the attack. No knockback either, since the opponent is stuck in the ground.
Down Smash: Arceus uses Gravity!
Arceus spins around, creating a small void, 360 degrees around him. Everybody who enters this void is pushed to the ground and gets damage. There's some lag after the attack, and the knockback isn't too good, but it's a nice damage racker (especially in Free For All).
AERIAL MOVES:
Neutral Aerial: Arceus uses Hyper Voice!
Arceus spins around and shrieks, creating an aura that damages opponents around him. The aura is about 1.5 times as big as Jigglypuff's Sing. While this opponent has virtually no knockback, it does a nice amount of damage, and there isn't much lag either.
Forward Aerial:
Arceus flings his head, creating a 'cut' in the air that semi-spikes opponents. It's hard to hit, though, since the cut is very fast and doesn't last long. (much like Shiek's Forward Aerial)
Back Aerial:
Arceus kicks back with his feet for pretty good range and knockback. The lag isn't too much, making this Arceus' primary edgeguarding move. Works like a sex kick.
Up Aerial: Arceus uses Seismic Toss!
Arceus bites upward with a mystical power and throws him downward. VERY hard to hit since you need to be under your opponent, but it spikes. The lag at the end isn't that big though.
Down Aerial: Arceus uses Gravity!
Arceus casts the same Gravity aura beneath him as in his Down Smash. The Gravity aura does damage and Meteor Smashes the opponent. Arceus floats in the air when using this move, but can't move sideways.
GRAB MOVES:
Arceus grabs by moving his head forward ans shooting a small invisible 'beam', so to say. Anyone hit by this beam will be hold in mid-air by Arceus' divine power. The way of grabbing is comparable to Mewtwo's.
A:
Arceus jabs with the same power pulse as in his jab.
Forward Throw: Arceus uses Future Sight!
Arceus throws the opponent forward, with virtually no lag, but small knockback. A few seconds later, the real knockback and damage comes in, as Future Sight attacks the opponent. The opponent can only prevent this from happening by killing himself or Arceus. If Pokémon Trainer switches Pokémon, the effects of Future Sight are passed on to the next Pokémon.
Back Throw:
Arceus uses his divine power to move the opponent behind him. Arceus the uses his hind legs to kick the opponent away.
Up Throw:
Arceus throws the opponent upward and shoots a small beam at him. The beam doesn't have much knockback, but does a bit of damage. The lag is pretty big for a throw.
Down Throw: Arceus uses Gravity!
Arceus uses the same Gravity aura used in his Down Smash and Down Aerial to push the opponent to the ground and deal damage. He then lands on top of him and the opponent flies upward. Floaties can be chaingrabbed by this.
SPECIAL MOVES:
Neutral Special: Arceus uses Hyper Beam!
Arceus charges his Hyper Beam and shoots forward. You can shoot in three ways: straight forward, in a 45 degree angle upward or straight up. The knockback isn't any good, but it does a lot of damage. Too bad this attack has a lot of lag afterwards.
Forward Special: Arceus uses Giga Impact!
Arceus charges and slams forward. Anyone hit by Giga Impact suffers from it's extreme knockback and damage, but those who managed to avoid can benefit from it's huge lag time... You have been warned!
P.S: This attack can be charged to increase the range.
Down Special: Arceus uses Multitype!
This one I'm rather proud of, even though it's the most predictable of them all... It changes your type! Only the color of the golden ring changes though, too prevent Team Colors confusion. The type you change in is completly random, and when you press Down B again when you changed your type, you change back to normal type. What happens for each type though? Well..
Fighting (Dark brown ring): Increases damage.
Flying (Gray ring): Makes Arceus float higher and increases jump.
Poison: (Purple ring): Some of Arceus' attacks do additional and continuous damage (comparable to the Lip's Stick item).
Ground (Light brown (sand color) ring): Ground moves have increased knockback and damage, aerial moves have decreased knockback and damage.
Rock (Medium brown (rock.. color.. duh?) ring): Increases weight and knockback.
Bug (Light green ring): Decreases weight and traction and makes Arceus a Floaty character.
Ghost (Deep purple ring): Decreases knockback and damage done by opponents.
Steel (Silver ring): Decreases knockback done by opponents, but makes Arceus a fastfaller and adds weight.
Grass (Dark green ring): Some attacks uses leaves, hanging around and attacking the opponent later for some additional damage.
Fire (Red ring): Same effect as Superspicy Curry.
Water (Blue ring): Some attacks leave water on the floor, making the floor slippery. Arceus' traction is also decreased.
Electric (Yellow ring): Attacks have extra stun.
Psychic (Pink ring): Throws have extra range and knockback.
Dark (Black ring): Steals items that opponent have carrying with them (including Franklin Badges and such).
Ice (White ring): Leaves a freeze effect to some attacks (sometimes even completly freezing the opponent for a few seconds at high percentages).
Dragon (Dark blue ring): Increases knockback and damage and decreases lag. Rarest of all the types to get.
Up Special: Arceus uses Extremespeed!
This attack is pretty much the same as Pikachu's Quick Attack, only it goes farther and doesn't have a second try.
FINAL SMASH: Arceus uses Judgement!
Arceus grabbed a Smash Ball! Watch out! He moves to the back of the stage and shoots beams across the stage and unleashes meteors. If there was a type change with Multitype, the beams change color and have the same effects as with normal attacks.
Arguments and Counterarguments
Why should Arceus be in Brawl?
Arceus is the most important Pokémon. He is the GOD of them all. He CREATED the Pokémon universe. He's more important than the Pokémon Trainer. Arceus would also be an original choice, instead of standard fighting Pokémon who don't bring anything new or special to Brawl.
Why should Arceus be in Brawl?
Arceus is the most important Pokémon. He is the GOD of them all. He CREATED the Pokémon universe. He's more important than the Pokémon Trainer. Arceus would also be an original choice, instead of standard fighting Pokémon who don't bring anything new or special to Brawl.
What does this guy have over Lucario and Darkrai?
1. Game importance. As you know, the GOD of the world. And pretty much ALL the myths in Sinnoh being about him. And the plates you find everywhere? Darkrai has game importance though. Like - once. And that's ACTUALLY all about Cresselia. Lucario has... Well, hardly any. You can get him in an egg. Wait... Happiny for Brawl!
2. He would be original and would bring something NEW to Smash, rather than a normal punch-kick character. I guess Darkrai has more originality than Lucario, but Arceus would have way more.
3. Nintendo realizes the popularity boosts characters get through Smash. Put Arceus in, Arceus becomes popular and everybody wants one. Make an event for Arceus, thousands of people will come, and the movie with Arceus will be even more popular, thus making MORE MONEY. And if the third 4th gen game has Arceus on the box cover, people'll want it because they know him from Smash.
4. Popularity has virtually no influence on Pokémon characters. Or, rather, not ANYMORE, apparently. So far Pikachu (who is THE Pokémon icon. And important in Pokémon Yellow (which was made BECAUSE of the animé, but I disgress)) and the Pokémon Trainer have been confirmed. Sakurai HAD to put Pikachu in (along with Mario, Link and Kirby). Then he decided to go with.... Game importance!
5. 4th gen representation? Well, Lucario and Darkrai have this too. Nevermind.
Counterarguments
Arceus can't be in Brawl, he's too big!
Bowser, Kirby, Pikachu... Weren't they all too big or too small? Looks like they resized them. They can do it with Arceus as well.
Status: Purged.
Arceus is a Legendary with a signature attack. He should be a Pokéball!
Who says every Legendary with a signature attack should be a Pokéball? Mewtwo is a Legendary. He got in Melee.
Status: Not purged enough.
Arceus isn't popular enough to be in Brawl!
Pokémon Trainer. 'Nuff said.
Status: Purged.
Arceus isn't even revealed yet!
Wait a minute... Brawl comes out on January 24th in Japan. Who says he doesn't get revealed before that time? And chances are pretty much every Pokémon fan already knows this guy. AND, Sakurai got complete freedom with this game except for Mario's, Link's, Pikachu's and Kirby's inclusion.
Status: Purged.
He has four legs and nothing too grab with!
Ivysaur says hi. Also, he created the world with his THOUSAND ARMS. AND - my moveset gives a good enough answer for that. If a randomer can do it, so can a whole frikkin' company.
Status: Purged.
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