Arcade Legacy Presents: ARMAGEDDON - March 23rd, 2013 - Cincinnati, OH

[clowsui]

xzax since you made top64 at apex 2012 you're eligible for the MK legal bracket

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

is thre money involved in that? are you doing two seperate brackets or? and is mk legal in dubs?

 

[clowsui]

MK banned in dubs. Tell me when there isn't one MK on every team at an MK legal tourney and then I'll consider legalizing him in that format

And yeah $15 to enter MK legal. first place gets 60% + (50 to 100$ pot bonus for first), so 32*15*0.6=288+(50 to 100) = 338 - 388 for first place in MK legal singles. Two separate brackets.

Also: just to be 100% clear guys, YES there are other methods of making the 32 man MK invitational, and YES we will be announcing them very very soon.

 

[TSM ZeRo]

this is xzax.

having mk banned at all, especially at a big tournament like this HINDERS your region, since at tournaments like APEX and Genesis, they cannot practice correctly for it. banning MK is stupid, only someone with a scrub mentallity bans meta knight. and mk is the best character but he is not bannable. if you ban him you should ban ice climbers since they are just as broken, if not more( they encourage timing out and it only takes one mistake against them and results in death). if mk is banned, me and zero are no longer coming, it just isnt worth traveling out to Ohio.

 

[DtJ Composer]

Man this argument is fresh and brand new

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

ahaha good joke composer. dont listen to me, continue to hinder your region and be free and only have TWO PLAYERS who are good(Zinoto/Shugo). I bet they don't care if mk is banned or legal, because they are good players and don't blame meta knight for their losses, but rather then the skill of their opponent.

 

[DeLux]

ahaha good joke composer. dont listen to me, continue to hinder your region and be free and only have TWO PLAYERS who are good(Zinoto/Shugo). I bet they don't care if mk is banned or legal, because they are good players and don't blame meta knight for their losses, but rather then the skill of their opponent.

money match me?

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

ok how much?

 

[DeLux]

You can name how much you want to lose

 

[Player-1]

delux da bess

 

[clowsui]

So what you're saying is that MK legal is the only way to go because that's what everybody else is doing?

Well you sure convinced me

I haven't hindered anybody. The way that MW performs at nationals has nothing to do with MK. It has everything to do with something you mentioned - lack of drive - and also the fact that our population density is ****ing awful.

Additionally, MK ban tournaments are important for developing proficiencies in non-MK matchups. Not every MU in an MK legal event is MK vs xx. Where do you think they'll get this experience? They're far more likely to get it in this format.

If you want to convince me, show me a large OoS population that would attend this tournament if it were 100% MK legal. I am far more interested in getting 20-30 more attendees than some silly little argument about hindering or stopping my region from succeeding when the problem of our performance has nothing to do with anything you'd like it to.

Now either you come to this tournament or you get out of my thread and stop talking about the MK ban until you show me the attendees that I want. I'm perfectly within my rights to hold an MK banned event and I'll repeat the successes I've had so far.

By the way, did you know that I'm hosting an MK legal bracket for the viewers at home?

 

[DeLux]

I'm tired of getting us getting called bad so much.

I think it's time for the Midwest to unite.

Midwest vs. the World Crew battle, $10 a head?

 

[clowsui]

To be honest, I would be 100% down to make that a featured event.

 

[Ayce God]

Midwest isn't bad, just def isn't a top 3 region

 

[Carls493]

How many different regions are in the US, anyway? I'm not sure if the top of this page has them all or not.

 

[Ayce God]

it does

 

[Carls493]

I believe you. I wasn't reading where Southwest & Pacific West were correctly.

 

[Denti]

I'm probably coming to this.

Edit: So I have to fly with a certain airline to get this super good deal, and that airline doesn't stop in Ohio (wtf, i know right??). What is the closest region with a big airport that I could too and ride in a carpool from?

 

[clowsui]

Chicago or Indianapolis

 

[KassandraNova]

I've personally been wanting to play mk again. I kinda wish you would make it mk legal personally.
But I guess thats just me being biased.

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

I've personally been wanting to play mk again. I kinda wish you would make it mk legal personally.
But I guess thats just me being biased.

It's not even you being biased, I would like to see the reasoning why MK is banned in the first place.

 

[Carls493]

I'd only want MK to be banned for more character variety, even if that means seeing more Diddys, Olimars, & ICs. At least I could get some MU exp. off of those characters instead of MK & I'm sure others would like that, too.

But at the same time, I want to learn how to fight MK better, too, and everyone should. So if he gets banned then that won't help much towards being able to beat him more consistently since I wouldn't have the experience towards that.

In general I just personally just want to improve on my skills against anyone.

 

[Asa]

Anyone wanna team?

 

[Denti]

Why does it matter if he is banned if there is an MK banned tournament and a MK legal tournament. They even made the MK legal one 15$ to raise the pot prize so top MK mains can still come and aim to make good cash without relying on doubles too.

Unless I'm missing some detail of course.

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

having MK banned is just stupid and unneeded. what do you gain from it? nothing at all, you gain bad players not johning about loosing to mk. congrats! i really dont care if hes legal or not, but if you cant give me a good reason why hes banned, then theres no reason to ban him.

 

[TSM ZeRo]

I'm currently trying to convince NJ/NY players to come to this event, but if it's MK banned, they won't be interested in coming.

 

[MegaRobMan]

I haven't hindered anybody. The way that MW performs at nationals has nothing to do with MK. It has everything to do with something you mentioned - lack of drive - and also the fact that our population density is ****ing awful.

I'd argue the population density argument over lack of drive, there are a lot of players (myself not included) who play wifi all the time and want to get better and play a lot and blah blah blah blah.

Distance. That's the hardest part.

I'd also say that for a while, back when banning MK was cool, it was a good idea because it was new and got people back into brawl and all the people who hate brawl because of MK could enjoy the game, people could play different characters, and realize that brawl is really gay and can be played that cheap with most of the characters. We have moved past the need for an MK ban since it's clear that ZSS MK is 75-25 ZSS.

I'm tired of getting us getting called bad so much.

I think it's time for the Midwest to unite.

Midwest vs. the World Crew battle, $10 a head?

Put me in as alternate #11

I want this to be MK legal completely so I can attend.

I'm currently trying to convince NJ/NY players to come to this event, but if it's MK banned, they won't be interested in coming.

Bring Ish and M2K.

 

[Mr.E]

I like MK being banned because I was out of the game during the brief period where he was "officially" axed and didn't get the chance to maybe actually win something for once... Too bad I'm what, two years out of practice so I couldn't win **** right now anyway.

Otherwise I would say he's borderline not quite worth banning. He's kinda a little too good overall probably, however he is certainly not brokenly unbeatable and if you want him banned then I think you should just man up. When you turn the game into a legitimate competition your preference no longer matters, it's about balance. MK is only good enough to be the de facto best character in the game, he's not so imbalanced that the entire game revolves around him. That said, I ultimately don't care either way. The status of MK's legality in no way affects my possible attendance and overall enjoyment of any given tournament.

The whole invite-only MK legal bracket is dumb though, however it's not my tournament and I don't care enough to argue. As if anybody ever listened to me anyway. Just as the average person who isn't afraid to face Meta Knight, I feel kinda slighted that I would not be allowed to give it a go against MK players. I'd enter both brackets because hey, I just wanna play the game you know?

 

[clowsui]

having MK banned is just stupid and unneeded. what do you gain from it? nothing at all, you gain bad players not johning about loosing to mk. congrats! i really dont care if hes legal or not, but if you cant give me a good reason why hes banned, then theres no reason to ban him.

Cut the passive aggressive bull****. You called us scrubs a few posts ago and you also said that we gain players that john about losing to MK.

Ish said he'd come either way @Rob. Also I'm one of those wifi people and I can tell you right now that there are not enough people who are driven in this region. You could even look at Michigan who has a lot of these wifi fiends - Tech Chase offered to host an Apex smashfest not once not twice but THREE TIMES and every single time he was refused despite the fact that he's a solid informational resource and has a place for Smashers to gather.

Mr.E there's an invitational because I want to try it out + I want to see non-MK mains bring out their secondaries at the MK legal event while still giving them a way to make money (granted, you need to make top 3, but still LOL), and because as far as I'm concerned not everyone likes watching or playing the MK MU.

Denti has the right idea.

 

[Kel]

ahaha good joke composer. dont listen to me, continue to hinder your region and be free and only have TWO PLAYERS who are good(Zinoto/Shugo). I bet they don't care if mk is banned or legal, because they are good players and don't blame meta knight for their losses, but rather then the skill of their opponent.

Didn't I destroy you?

 

[Overswarm]

ahaha good joke composer. dont listen to me, continue to hinder your region and be free and only have TWO PLAYERS who are good(Zinoto/Shugo). I bet they don't care if mk is banned or legal, because they are good players and don't blame meta knight for their losses, but rather then the skill of their opponent.

Must be embarrassing to lose to someone from the midwest. Us being hindered and all.

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

Since 2010 I haven't lost to anyone in the Midwest but zinoto, who has my respect and I respect him. Kel if you would like to money match for any amount please feel free
And we can sit here and argue if I'm good or not but I have proved myself. And for anyone who thinks they can beat me can money match me here so I can prove myself to them personally.

 

[Ayce God]

this thread just got alot better

 

[AllyKnight]

nah I agree, MK banners are pretty scrubby. You just play in your own newb world because you can't handle it. I find Marth pretty OP, let's ban him.

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

See other GOOD players agree with me. Not one actual tournament threat has disagreed with me.

 

[AllyKnight]

See other GOOD players agree with me. Not one actual tournament threat has disagreed with me.

But 2 brackets means more chance of me making money so I'll let em have it their way

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

Lol you greedy *******! I will defeat you unless you go Ics on me in the mk banned tourny ;_;

 

[Ayce God]

xzax, what place did you get at apex.

 

[Xzax Kasrani]

33rd. I beat infiniteV115 2-0 and fino 2-0 and lost to nairo and pwii both 3rd game last hit.

 

[Ayce God]

you sound legit to me.