A Sonic community tournament guide: What to expect from tourneys and how to cope

[Kinzer]

I'm really asking for advice, I'm 16, and I just used "girlfriend" as an example, never had one, and probably won't for a good while.

Only one more reason to keep looking forward to getting my driver's liceanse...

Anyway yeah...I'm serious.

 

[thecatinthehat]

I'm really asking for advice, I'm 16, and I just used "girlfriend" as an example, never had one, and probably won't for a good while.

Only one more reason to keep looking forward to getting my driver's liceanse...

Anyway yeah...I'm serious.

lol

Kinzer = Me.

 

[memphischains]

kinzer, what specifically do you want to know about

 

[Kinzer]

Like how can playing a different game make you more prepared to play another?

To me, that's like saying playing World of Warcraft will help you play Warcraft III, but if you played both you know that WoW is an MMORPG and WCIII is a real-time stratigy.

Also it would be nice to know the meaning of life.

 

[da K.I.D.]

i guess its the same way playing (some will disagree) MvC2 can help your timing in CvS2

playing a fast game can help sharpen you reflexes for a similar yet slower game

 

[memphischains]

uh. whut? that question doesn't make sense. playing one smash doesn't make you better at another.

or were you talking about other fighting games too?

 

[Kinzer]

were you talking about other fighting games too?

Yes, exactly.

and K.I.D. - I guess that works, it's just I didn't believe it at first because some might pick up on bad habits from melee. Example - You try and Wavedash in Melee, and it works, try that in Brawl, and you mess up.

 

[da K.I.D.]

im just saying that doing something fast that relatively similar can prepare your eyes better for something slower

 

[Chis]

Dang, I just got another idea from this thread, it's surprising what people come up with.

Let's make this the Sonic boards' specific tournament advice thread, all other similiar threads are now null and void.

I'm afraid not Kinzy. Not until I finish making this guide. But if you do have questions free free to ask them as long as well don't stay off topic for too long.

if we had it to mine it will be one universal tournament related thread

When I complete the guide I'll consider it.

 

[memphischains]

why wouldn't you add it.

you make a new thread like everyday, which adds clutter to the threads people really should be reading and adds to the spam issue.

we need to condense the threads into complete items. not 14 different threads about 14 different things about 14 different topics that have new threads for sub topics

1 tournament thread / steak
1 match up thread and discussion / steak
1 video thread / steak
1 guide / steak
1 link thread to the above threads / steak

 

[Chis]

Spam. Stupid Pointless Annoying Posts. Also I hope people read the, you know, the second page. But this deserves it's own thread, but yeah some threads need to be condense but not the ones you listed. This is a guide where I'm collecting information from tourney goers and constantly updating. I cannot put that in another thread.

 

[da K.I.D.]

why wouldn't you add it.

you make a new thread like everyday, which adds clutter to the threads people really should be reading and adds to the spam issue.

we need to condense the threads into complete items. not 14 different threads about 14 different things about 14 different topics that have new threads for sub topics

1 tournament thread / steak
1 match up thread and discussion / steak
1 video thread / steak
1 guide / steak
1 link thread to the above threads / steak

MC is trying to be serious for the first time in months, you should listen to everything he says until he returns to his former ways

he is right in every way so far

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Like how can playing a different game make you more prepared to play another?

To me, that's like saying playing World of Warcraft will help you play Warcraft III, but if you played both you know that WoW is an MMORPG and WCIII is a real-time stratigy.

Also it would be nice to know the meaning of life.

I find that playing Megaman made it easier to read frames and notice predictable things. I never landed so many Snake Fsmashes till I started playing Megaman obsessively. And I mean the originals. Not X.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Some of Chis's threads have been pretty helpful, like the pesky move thing. That has been a success as far as I know. However not all, I've read most of your threads, but I couldn't find many of them being of much help... Same applies to this. I don't go to tourneys, but if I would go to a tourney, I wouldn't count on this really. I'd just do my own thing and see if it works or not. And don't give me the "it's not finished"-crap. Don't post it untill it's finished. God created microsoft word for a reason.

 

[thecatinthehat]

you make a new thread like everyday, which adds clutter to the threads people really should be reading and adds to the spam issue.

I told ya so, Chis.

 

[Chis]

Same applies to this. I don't go to tourneys, but if I would go to a tourney, I wouldn't count on this really.

I haven't even started writing it? What is there to read?

I'd just do my own thing and see if it works or not. And don't give me the "it's not finished"-crap. Don't post it untill it's finished. God created microsoft word for a reason.

Read the title or:

The purpose of this thread is to gather advice and information about tourneys and create a guide about it. This should help people who are about to go to their first tournament or help improve people's methods of tournament practice. If you've been to a tourney with Sonic, done well with him, or experienced in the matter etc please contribute and help you fellow Sonic's :')

 

[Jim Morrison]

Well congratulations, but what I'm telling you isn't about tourneys, it's about threads.

 

[Chis]

Read what I quoted. Believe or not but I mostly make threads for your benefit.

 

[Jim Morrison]

Not for me...

 

[thecatinthehat]

For fuck's sake, both of you just STFU.

Honestly, if it's one thing the Sonic board's need, it's communication.

 

[Chis]

Then don't read it if you don't find it useful. Not all threads are aimed at you. If it's not helpful for you don't post.

Edit: Didn't see that cat :'(

 

[Jim Morrison]

For fuck's sake, both of you just STFU.

Honestly, if it's one thing the Sonic board's need, it's communication.

It's too early, I'm not gonna bother argueing this. Very well.

 

[Greenstreet]

Everybody is stealing the word "community" nowadays! :laugh XD

Anyway lots of rest helps. Preparing yourself in advance for a long while helps, gives a lot of time to find opponents for your Shawnik.

Lol I so used Community first...

OMFG, you MUST eat Steak before the tourney, it's your only hope of even winning.

Good idea, although tourneys usually start in the morning, and steak for breaky...is well... maybe bacon instead.

Spam. Stupid Pointless Annoying Posts. Also I hope people read the, you know, the second page. But this deserves it's own thread, but yeah some threads need to be condense but not the ones you listed. This is a guide where I'm collecting information from tourney goers and constantly updating. I cannot put that in another thread.

I'm not sure whether this deserves it's own thread. I am pretty sure characters boards in themselves are set in place for players to improve, so I just can't see anything new here that isn't already common sense or already somewhere else on the Sonic Boards.
And I agree, Chis you make way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way way too many threads dude. I'm not sure if you are tryin to build a resume for the next SBR App Thread or what, but ease up a couple notches please.

But like I said, this whole board is for improving players Sonic ability, regardless of a tournament setting, there isn't too many specific traits that can be improved for a tournament that haven't already been stated already in improving your general Sonic play anyway.

1. Know your matchups
2. Know Sonic
3. Get sleep
4. Be psychilogically ready (and everyone of these bar number two already has a milliopn threads in tournament discussion)

So yer, I'm not a fan of this thread unless you can show me something new that can't just go in Tourney Disc.

 

[memphischains]

so i'm going to go ahead and put this in my thread....

 

[da K.I.D.]

we all know chis makes too mayn threads,

i dont see a point in argueing about it,
its easy to see whats hes trying to do, but its also easy to see how any one of his threads can horiibly fail...

i for one dont have a problem contributing to something that can help others, i just think that if you want me to help you, just make sure you go about it the right way.

that is all

 

[Chis]

This will stay open regardless. The only thing I benefit from my threads is knowledge. I'm not applying for the SBR. From now on post in that Steak group. Back on topic.

 

[aeghrur]

Meh, you think my thread should stay open(my only one, lol) or synthesized into NES's and close it? :O

 

[Chis]

Anyone else?

 

[JayBee]

From my little bit of tourney experience I'd say this:

1: Brawl is a more defensive game: this means you opponent will most likely employ "wall o pain" strats projectile spam, and other forms or camp to be as safe as possible. why not? its a tourney, there is probably money involved. be care not to get caught easily in those traps.
if you see it, being able to change your strategy against a character is what separates the better players.

2: You have 7 minutes. You don't have to nessesarily rush to kill them three times, and risk losing that one stock advantage you had. Most often once they get the first stock on you, they play the time factor more to force you to make more mistakes and dig yourself a deeper hole. yes you are fast, but knowing when to go full speed, or when to slow it down within those 7 minutes will be key for you. And if you are ahead a stock, play the percentage game, and make them work to get the kill off you, so that when they finally kill you, you are still ahead percentage wise. atm, if the timer runs out, and both players have tied stock, then the one with the lower percentage wins.

3: The average person who plays even a decent sonic, will camp. Sonic is just too fast to chase around all day, even if they have experience agsinst him. Theyre going to attempt to wait for you to come at them, and time a counter at some point in the match, and sometimes, righ toff the bat. you have to expect it, and change it up the second it looks like that is the case, otherwise you just gave them the pace of the match.

4: I for one before most Brawl sessions with other people, will warm up with simple running and movement oriented excersizes. Im not kidding. It's your number one asset, and a lot of the match will eb determined by how well you can move around when you fight.

5: If there are any Sonic mains/Players there, play them. ask questions, and you may find somethings interesting to try for the next time you enter.

6: Lastly: you better have a kick *** secondary to fight with to help balance out sonic's weaknesses. he doesn't have a projectile, has to attack close, etc. you know it already. so pick a good secondary now and master him too. For me right now, I'm trying to master Meta and Rob but for the moment my secondary is Dedede.

 

[Jim Morrison]

For me right now, I'm trying to master Meta and Rob but for the moment my secondary is Dedede.

But... Your signature... NOOOOOO

 

[JayBee]

hahahaha. I don't like how broken he is but i've always played him. not in touneys though. i still want him banned.

 

[Chis]

I'll have the write up soon.

Now, What to expect from tourneys and how to cope with pressure.

 

[Tenki]

Overall, unless you go to some major tourney where people from out of state and stuff are coming,

Towards the beginning, you can expect a bunch of crappy players who bandwagon off of tiers, so know your matchups if you don't want to get filtered out.
Be wary if you meet a low-mid-tier player in the 2nd-3rd rounds, because if they also had to go up against a MK/Snake/Dedede/Falco/GaW player in the first round, they might be worth fighting :3

Closer to the semi-finals, don't gamble on your opponent doing stupid stuff, ever. You're starting to get to the point where mediocre players are filtered out by the better players. If they do stupid stuff, get them for it, but don't expect to get easier fights.

Overall, you can't just assume you'll go up against a crappy player lol. For all you know, you could be going up against one of the top 3.

Buuuuut I noticed there's this kind of food chain concerning demographics:

Best players (with their characters of choice)
Pretty good players (with high-top tier characters)
Crappy players (with high-top tier characters)
Semi-good players (any other character)

lol there's alot of filtering that goes on.

At the top, the best players should win, regardless of their character. They tend to revolve around High/top tiers simply because it's more efficient that way, or because it happened to coincide with their favorite character.

As for pressure, it depends lol. I did stupid stuff to relieve pressure by making my opponent feel more of it. Throwing someone off the stage and taunting might work against your opponent in a tournament setting. I can't really tell for sure, but it was definitely a crowd pleaser though lol.