A Real Fighting game spinoff for Smash

[The Sparrow]

This thread isn't based on how realistic or possible the concept is, rather we'll make small discussion on if it'd be fun, copying the anime fighting game or 2.5D fighting game formula, and how the tier list might look if all the characters of Smash Ultimate were mashed into one fighting game. Do you think it'd be more like Capcom vs Marvel or Street Fighter? Guilty Gear or Persona 4 Arena?

 

[Fibberkick]

Imma come back later for this sounds very cool just don't have the time

 

[Idon]

I could see a DBFZ style game that's more simplistic than most other hyper-fighters but still having a large amount of depth.
I'd definitely pay for that, especially if Nintendo are balacning it ONLY as a fighting game and not under Sakurai's wishy-washy "half party-game, half fighter" mindset he's had for Smash.
Honestly, I hope Capcom gets the honors, but I'd be just as fine with Arcsys taking up the reigns.

Plus, any sort of reboot is a chance to see Lyn in, so... Get on it Nintendo.

 

[Deleted member]

If it's a spinoff series then yeah, I'd be up for it! I'f prefer it to be handled by Arc Systems though. Namco Bandai's Tekken is fun, but I'm more interested in 2D fighters to be honest. Keep Capcom away from it though. The only thing I'd allow is their characters and that's it.

 

[The Sparrow]

Yo I'd wamt arc system to handle it too, they're character design gods.

 

[Yosher]

To be honest, if a thing like this would ever be made I'd kinda like it if it was more like Dead or Alive because I like when these types of fighters allow you to knock opponents to other (usually lower) parts of the stage. Just, y'know, don't put such a focus on the jiggle physics as that's something I couldn't care less about, and we're good.

If not DoA then probably Soul Calibur-like. Soul Calibur II is the only 'typical' fighting game that I've really put a lot of time in. I can never get too much into Street Fighter, Tekken, any of the 'vs Capcom' games, Dead or Alive (despite enjoying aforementioned aspect of it) or even Pokkén Tournament. But Soul Calibur II, back then, really kept me hooked somehow. And I would say it was because it was Link, but while it was indeed Link that made me want the game in the first place, if it really was because of him then I'd also enjoy Pokkén Tournament for the Pokémon which I personally like even more than Link.

But yeah, regardless of what it would end up being, if such a game would come to be, I'd definitely check it out, but I can't tell for sure yet if it would keep me hooked. If it would have Yoshi playable though then that would already help a ton for me.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I still say the next best approach is a crossover Vs. game like Marvel vs. Capcom. In Nintendo's case it should be with Shonen Jump. The gameplay could be a hybrid of Smash and Dragon Ball FighterZ. This would be my ideal roster.

Spoiler

Nintendo:

1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Yoshi
6. Wario
7. Donkey Kong
8. Diddy Kong
9. King K. Rool
10. Link
11. Zelda
12. Ganondorf
13. Samus
14. Ridley
15. Pit
16. Palutena
17. Dark Pit
18. Medusa
19. Fox
20. Pikachu
21. Jigglypuff
22. Mewtwo
23. Lucario
24. Kirby
25. Meta Knight
26. King Dedede
27. Marth
28. Roy
29. Ike
30. Lucina
31. Shulk
32. Inkling
33. Spring Man
34. Isaac
35. Ness
36. Captain Falcon
37. Ice Climbers
38. Mr. Game and Watch
39. R.O.B.
40. Little Mac

Shonen Jump:

1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Gohan
4. Piccolo
5. Trunks
6. Frieza
7. Beerus
8. Luffy
9. Zoro
10. Sanji
11. Blackbeard
12. Naruto
13. Sasuke
14. Sakura
15. Gaara
16. Orochimaru
17. Midoriya
18. Bakugou
19. All-Might
20. Todoroki
21. Shigaraki
22. Ichigo
23. Rukia
24. Kenpachi
25. Aizen
26. Gon
27. Killua
28. Hisoka
29. Yusuke
30. Hiei
31. Kurama
32. Toguro
33. Medaka
34. Joseph Joestar
35. Jotaro Kujo
36. Dio Brando
37. Tsuna (Hitman Reborn Character)
38. Gintoki (Gintama)
39. Arale Norimaki
40. Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)

 

[Quillion]

A Nintendo-based traditional fighter would best be its own thing, not as an offshoot of Smash.

And yes, it should be a vs. Capcom title.

 

[staindgrey]

...and how the tier list might look if all the characters of Smash Ultimate were mashed into one fighting game.

They already are.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Like Marvel vs. Capcom as well. My ideal Nintendo vs. Shonen Jump game would also have beginning and ending dialogues and rivalries.

For example.

Bakugou (Pre-fight): H-How can you even fight in such ridiculous shape!? You're an even bigger joke than Deku!!!! - To Blackbeard, King Dedede, King K. Rool and Wario
Bakugou (Post-fight): Do yourself a favor fatso by trying to lose all that weight, then maybe people like me will start taking you more seriously in a fight! - To Blackbeard, King Dedede, King K. Rool and Wario

Then for rivalries. King K. Rool and Blackbeard are rivals due to being villainous captains of pirates and despite being "fat" are relatively very strong.

As well as a few others.

Mario vs. Goku
Bowser vs. Frieza
Peach vs. Sakura
Dark Pit vs. Vegeta
Medusa vs. Orochimaru
Pikachu vs. Killua
Meta Knight vs. Kenpachi
Isaac vs. Gaara

 

[Gothitelle]

Like Marvel vs. Capcom as well. My ideal Nintendo vs. Shonen Jump game would also have beginning and ending dialogues and rivalries.

For example.

Bakugou (Pre-fight): H-How can you even fight in such ridiculous shape!? You're an even bigger joke than Deku!!!! - To Blackbeard, King Dedede, King K. Rool and Wario
Bakugou (Post-fight): Do yourself a favor fatso by trying to lose all that weight, then maybe people like me will start taking you more seriously in a fight! - To Blackbeard, King Dedede, King K. Rool and Wario

Then for rivalries. King K. Rool and Blackbeard are rivals due to being villainous captains of pirates and despite being "fat" are relatively very strong.

As well as a few others.

Mario vs. Goku
Bowser vs. Frieza
Peach vs. Sakura
Dark Pit vs. Vegeta
Medusa vs. Orochimaru
Pikachu vs. Killua
Meta Knight vs. Kenpachi
Isaac vs. Gaara

I was laughing this off until I realised that Takamaru vs Himura Kenshin would be a possibility

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

So you want a smash game with high-mid-low, or what? Melee is already a great fighting game. If Smash had continued in that vein, I doubt there would be much demand for this kind of game.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I was laughing this off until I realised that Takamaru vs Himura Kenshin would be a possibility

Huh good one actually. Maybe I'll do some more work on my roster and squeeze that one in.

 

[Quillion]

So you want a smash game with high-mid-low, or what? Melee is already a great fighting game. If Smash had continued in that vein, I doubt there would be much demand for this kind of game.

Yeah, I want a traditional Capcom-style fighter with Nintendo characters. Hell, the things Melee did could find a better place in Smash, especially Waveshining, which could be universalized into an attack dash canceling mechanic.

 

[aarchak]

I would totally want it to be more like Blazblue, with a diverse selection of characters and more technical gameplay. As for making it accessible, stylish mode work for that. Stylish mode basically automatically does combos for you, and lets you do specials with one button, like Smash. I don't think the roster would be too big, probably about 20 characters at base, with more coming as DLC.

 

[Quillion]

I would totally want it to be more like Blazblue, with a diverse selection of characters and more technical gameplay. As for making it accessible, stylish mode work for that. Stylish mode basically automatically does combos for you, and lets you do specials with one button, like Smash. I don't think the roster would be too big, probably about 20 characters at base, with more coming as DLC.

I'm not sure being super-loaded with conplex mechanics like BlazBlue is the way to go. DBFZ with its autocombos and less mechanics seems like a better model.

 

[aarchak]

I'm not sure being super-loaded with conplex mechanics like BlazBlue is the way to go. DBFZ with its autocombos and less mechanics seems like a better model.

DBFZ is definitely the better example. When I was thinking Blazblue, however, I was thinking of its shorter combos compared to DBFZ, which has 10-second long combos. I don't think anybody want to just stand there and get beaten up for 10 seconds straight.

 

[Crystanium]

Any Shonen Jump is a no for me. I'd pass. I enjoyed BlazBlue and would be up for a Super Smash Bros. like it. Beautiful art, great music, nice combos.

 

[scoobymcsnack]

I think a Nintendo vs Capcom game would be cool, taking the format of MvC.
I even made a basic roster idea:

Spoiler: Roster

I tried my best to limit the Nintendo characters to who I thought would work best. My lack of Capcom knowledge by be showing as well, but I did my best with the knowledge I have.
Yellow characters are DLC.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Some more rivalries I thought of for my ideal Nintendo vs. Shonen Jump game.

Pit vs. Pegasus Seiya
Palutena vs. Athena (Fits perfectly being Palutena is based on Athena)
Dark Pit vs. Black Pegasus

 

[scoobymcsnack]

Some more rivalries I thought of for my ideal Nintendo vs. Shonen Jump game.

Pit vs. Pegasus Seiya
Palutena vs. Athena (Fits perfectly being Palutena is based on Athena)
Dark Pit vs. Black Pegasus

What about King K. Rool or Captain Syrup vs. Luffy?
Another cool one would be Mewtwo vs. Frieza

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What about King K. Rool or Captain Syrup vs. Luffy?
Another cool one would be Mewtwo vs. Frieza

I already got King K. Rool rivaled with Blackbeard.

As for Mewtwo vs. Frieza maybe. Having second thoughts on Bowser and Frieza being rivals.

 

[MrRoidley]

if a reboot/spinoff ever happened I'd rather see something like the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm franchise: a 3D brawler, with simple controls. I mean, if you're gonna change it, then change it all, from 2D to 3D. I think Ultimate Ninja Storm's somewhat simplistic nature would fit the Smash concept really well. CyberConnect2 could be in charge of it

 

[praline]

Other fighting games aren’t fun at all, so if they made a Smash game like a traditional fighter it’d suck too.

 

[aarchak]

Other fighting games aren’t fun at all, so if they made a Smash game like a traditional fighter it’d suck too.

I mean, that's like, your opinion. But seriously, fighting games aren't fun until you get to a high enough level to really understand them, and that's part of the reason I like Smash: it's much easier to have fun at a low level.