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KillerJawz did a great analysis video of a game of AbadangoIzawdid a match breakdown vs Abadango's
https://youtu.be/OEYr1TwRgmA
I like this slo-mo decision-by-decision explanation. Anyone know of other such vids in the same style?
vs Mr. R at BAM8. He did it during the match was going on at YouTube instead of after, and he does it in a pause rewind manner instead of a slow mo.
Mario trying to Dair a Ryu focus attacking in the air is asking for a shoryuken to the face.
This game also has had the threat of a patch every 2 months.
Well....yeah, it could.
lol how is he the best Mewtwo in europe when Luigi player (who took a game off Abadango) and Semifer (sadly inactive) exist?
I think you have to take into consideration that after Luigi player took a game off Abadango, the 3rd game Abadango JV3'd him.
Not saying I have the best M2 in europe (cuz that really can't be said, there are almost no comparisons / results for it since I mostly go Luigi in tourney), but me getting the business one game is no point at all. Taking a game off Abadango is pretty nice (for european standards at least). Abadango adapted really well in the last game and I was kinda feeling cornered too often. I think Dreamland was bad for me and I should've banned it instead of BF, but oh well. He also got his nice nair -> footstool KO pretty early which when he does get it makes quite a big difference. It's also true that Abadango completely wrecked everyone in tourney except like Ixis in a few games?
I think I have a great post here regarding my take on the Ness vs Fox MU (granted it is almost a year old but for the most part I think the concepts still remain similar to this day cause I made that post after Fox's Double Jab was patched lol). There are some handy video examples in there as well that show many situations!
People don't instantly put Mario in top 5. I see many people put Mario outside of top 5 from post EVO 2016 tier list. Both ZeRo and Esam ranked Mario lower than Mr. R, being at 11 and 7th (or 10th if it's not in order) respectably. Mario being top 5 isn't even "go-with-the-flow". Dabuz ranking Mario at 3rd is higher than most people and he said he would rank him lower if not for his results.I love Ramin's tier lists.
Not that I agree with everything but I like how it manages to be different from your average, go-with-the-flow tierlist that insta-puts Mario into top 5 and Bayonetta outside of top 8 while still looking pretty reasonable. That's something I can respect. Zero and ESAM need to step up their tierlist game big time.
I have an idea of who 2 of the 3 characters are.
Multiple hitting moves break focus and focus attack comes out slow enough to dair on reaction (31 frame startup before even level 1 and it's not until level 2 that you have to worry about an easy TSRK from a crumple).
If Ryu's SRK gets caped it's an instant kill. If he capes Tatsu, at that point Ryu is far offstage and forced to Tatsu right away again just to have a chance to recover. He'll be really low and any deep aerial will likely finish him off. Which is easy to get as you no longer have to react, you know he's about to Tatsu again and can position yourself accordingly. So it's basically an instant kill in most situations.
You've gotten it wrong. You need a frame 3 or faster move to break out of Mario's dair. Ryu's Shoryu has invincibility on start-up and until the hitbox is out so he can Shoryu between the hits of Mario's dair.
It's not hitting Ryu with Dair that's the problem, it's what he can do to Mario for landing the Dair. It's always punishable on hit vs. Ryu because shoryuken can have F1 invincibility. If I see Ryu focus and I go for Dair, if he knows the MU he will let me hit him, then tSRK me in the gap before the last hit of Mario's Dair. Heck, I think he could even start another Focus to stop being launched by Dair's final hit. Either way, bad idea for Mario unless he can only hit Ryu with the second to last hit of Dair so that Ryu wouldn't go into stun -> tSRK. Even then, I'm not completely sure that'd be safe on Mario's end, and I don't think it's worth the effort/risk.
If Mario has enough rage, F3 isn't fast enough either. I don't know how much rage Mario needs to trap Ryu in Dair, but he should always tSRK if he's going for the shoryuken escape.
Fair enough.
I'm not sure if the timing matters because buffering is a thing.
Does buffering occur if you are trapped in hitstun in this game?
I appreciate this trend of Kirby being only slightly disadvantaged against characters.
Best part about this is the people that say **** like this are people who dont play Ryu.
When it comes to tier lists Smash 4 reminds me a lot of Project M. Both games are fairly balanced compared to other Smash titles and used to get regular patches. These factors combined is why people are reluctant to make tier lists. When more than half the cast isn't irrelevant, it's extremely hard to create a whole tier list the majority would agree on.
I don't see how Fox camps Ness with lasers at all. At full screen spamming lasers is a free heal for Ness so that's hardly going to convince him to approach. At mid range or closer it's too risky to throw out lasers given there's no way to make them lagless in this game.
Homie wtf?
Last week I was agreeing with you that he's not top 10 as of now.
Easily Diddy. It's arguably top 3 in terms of kill confirm moves. It's safe on block when spaced and has low cooldown (making it fairly safe on whiff as well compared to other kill confirms).
Roy has a 61.11% fastfall modifier. He does happen to be bottom tier though... Does a faster fast fall modifier hurt you in any way?
Yes? Still dependent on the fall speed, especially in Melee where there were characters with fall speeds that exceeded 3 and having them have a +50% fall speed increase while fast falling would be stupid. For example, in Melee, Falco's fall speed only goes up to 3.5 when fast falling, a 12.9% increase. Melee Falco with a fall speed of 3.1 having it increased by 60% like Smash 4's majority would end up with a 4.96 fall speed. Try to picture what would happen. We being human, are prone to mistakes. If Melee Falco had a 60% increase and accidentally pressed down off-stage for whatever reason, he would probably SD faster than you can say, "Tatsumaki".
He's #10 on Das Koopa's "Tournament Placing Database & Scoring Project".
We have
Das Koopa
results thread for a reason. (Top 8 weighted results as of Aug 1st)
