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Sure, and I understand mine is an unpopular viewpoint. But all from my spectators point of view, I wanted to see more gods, not godslayers. I want to see more players go undefeated, so it's more "how will these Titans fare against each other." That was the hype I got seeing Ranai vs ZeRo, Nairo vs ZeRo, Leo vs ZeRo, etc. Instead it's more of an even spread of talent. Anyone in the top 10 can lose tournaments to people outside of the top 10. For some, this way is more exciting, and I respect that POV. Mine is just a bit different.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up and apologies for promoting an out-dated point of view which I myself have criticised others for.
Well technically it's true but he only attended 2 tournaments during this period (because of his studies). He will come back soon !Nintenpro is it true that Elexiao hasn't lost a French tourney since March? I've done little digging but I don't know for sure.
THIS. In fact, Angel Cortez vs. 9B from Genesis perfectly exemplifies this weakness. Even the commentators caught on to his Banana landing punishes. 9B couldn't find a consistent answer. Contrast this with Zinoto vs. Trela (sorry, no links cuz I'm on mobile and lazy). Zinoto is undeniably the stronger Diddy, but Trela's Ryu outpunished him. These are older sets now, but I think the main lesson is still relevant.
Sounds like the definition of prepatch Shiek to me.
Wait, johning FOR Zero?
A somewhat loaded statement but anyways, I'll clarify. Of course I wish it links properly but by saying properly, I'm fine with it not linking all the time, like when you barely touch your opponent and some of the remaining or all the rest of the hits fail to connect. There are a lot more other acceptable scenarios as well where it fails to hit all the way through and a lot of time it has something to do with the attributes of your opponent's character too.
There is no specific answer to this that would cover all different situations and to be labeled as the definitive reason why opponents pop off from a move. They probably spit the opponent out because it wasn't properly spaced in the first place, a combination of your opponent's DI and your momentum to a direction at the time of first hit, or something other specific that we can only theorize. FYI I have no idea of how Mega Man's multihits work so I can't directly comment on those.
They aren't designed to be inconsistent, they are designed to yield multiple outcomes depending on the way you hit your opponent. Most of the moves in the game have some sort of a sweerspot and a sourspot assigned to them to give varying results depending on the situation and some of them will get you punished even on hit, it's nothing new to the game. Some moves require more precise spacing than others to hit all the way through which is also a natural property of a move, like hitbox size. They demand skill to yield their best outcome, just like landing a meaty tipper fsmash with Marth. Of course, they aren't as consistent as single hits but that's how a flurry of separate hitboxes with all having unique values is going to work in a game where you can hit your opponent in a bazillion of different ways and DI/SDI exists.
Yes, there has been examples of moves that didn't link properly with any form of spacing or required excessive precision that simply didn't feel intuitive, almost all of them have been made to function better since and that's good. I'm not saying that moves should connect improperly or have seemingly random outcomes no matter the way you hit with them, but to retain their natural weaknesses as in not always automatically linking and requiring positional understanding when hitting with them. On the contrary, making all multihits connect 100% of the time would make take away the need to ever think of your spacing or timing with them since you will get the final hit regardless how you landed the first hit and — more of a design thought — reduce the importance of PvP interactions after being trapped in one.
Well, that's actually even worse, because it's just plainly wrong. Imagine actually believing ZeRo was carried when his worst placement post-2015 is 2nd place.
I'm not super knowledgable on Zero Suit Samus, or Diddy Kong for that matter.
Gatekeeper:
Fantastic, but at least 1-2 really bad match-ups:
ESAM Opinions:
"Male Corrin > Female Corrin"
"Bayonetta's neutral is lackluster"
"People were bad against Bayonetta"
"Zero Suit Samus has one of the worst neutral games"
Yo I swear people come full circle whenever I talk about a character. Yall fight me on stuff I say but eventually you see all see where I'm coming from.
Because it isn't really why he's losing. He's not worse, it's not even like he hasn't improved (his Diddy certainly has) but more like Sheik nerfs ARE a bad situation for him. I don't think ZeRo was truly prepared to do soloish Diddy because he doesn't have that type of top level matchup practice and it shows. People caught up, and now we know that ZeRo wouldn't have survived just with Diddy in the past.
With this description I wonder where is
Fantastic, but at least 1-2 really bad match-ups:
ESAM Opinions:
"Bayonetta's neutral is lackluster"
"People were bad against Bayonetta"
"Zero Suit Samus has one of the worst neutral games"
. Can someone explain me how and neutral is bad besides "bad mobility/startup" and "bad grab" respectively? Because I don't see how.
Compared to the characters above her ZSS' neutral is a bit lackluster due to having to short hop to use most of her neutral tools and her short hop is a bit high making it easier to PS, air to air, or AA her when she comes at you. Couple this with a risky grab that has less reward than before makes dealing with opponents that stay out of her burst range when she's on the ground and shield effectively when she's in the air in their space it can be hard to get things going in her favor.With this description I wonder where is
neutral is very good. I'm pretty sure that her neutral being bad was just a trope meant to make it seem like she wasn't hella busted. She has spammable, safe neutral options with amazing anti-approach in moves like dtilt, utilt, side b, bair, and nair. Bayo is non-committal, especially when you combine those things with Neutral B. The weakness of Bayo's neutral is that you can kinda lame her out in some senses, but honestly given the rate she can throw some of her moves out I think that she can be relentless enough with her attacks to make this a relative non-issue, especially Up B. Watch a good Bayo that doesn't play as defensively like 9B and you'll get what I mean.
Bayonetta has bad mobility, bad startup, a bad grab, a meh projectile, bad range, poor CQC, and one good OoS. Shes easily camped, easily outspaced, and easily boxed out. The only thing she has going for her in neutral is Witch Twist -> Dive Kick OoS to get out of pressure, low landing lag, and anti approach tools but considering most high/top tiers don't even need to approach it ends up being pretty uselessWith this description I wonder where is
It's not really johning. If you are playing as a weaker character, you have a lower chance of winning. Simple as that.
I've been saying this forever. Olimar is genuinely bottom 15 material once people learn the match up.
If you are playing a weaker character by choice when there are 10-15+ top level viable fighters in this game, that is your fault as a player. You made a poor decision at css. The result is still player vs player.
Okay I am not a Bayonetta expert at all but a term like "bad range" really doesn't seem to suit her. Have you seen the size of her hitboxes? She has good reach on most of her normals. Her CQC game is limited but pretty competent when you have a frame 4 option that hits all around her, can be used at any time, and leads into combos. She also has two frame 7 tilts that also convert and are rather safe.
ESAM touched on this in his Pound recap video when going over his loss to Marss. My guess is that he attributed it all to player strengths, but I shouldn't have to tell anyone here that player and character strengths have a lot to do with each other.
this isnt going to turn out well
So do Fox, Mewtwo, and pretty much everyone around her weight class.
This could possibly explain DHD's placement to an extent. ESAM briefly commented on certain zoners "not being as good as people think they are because people don't play the matchups correct and aren't patient enough" (paraphrasing) and his experience vs DHD is, like, what, MVD's, in friendlies? He hasn't played any noteworthy DHDs in bracket afaik. Dandy Penguin, ImHip, Raito, Yusan, and Brood are probably the top 5 atm
Yes they all die early, while Diddy, Mario, Cloud and Ryu don't.
Arts yes, but Climax really is a series of projectiles.
I would say Diddy has it good both ways because monkey flip but his recovery is kinda awkward so I'm not sure
Any chance you can label them so we can tell exactly who did them (I can see which one is Pugwest's though)?
Who's is who's?
