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2012. is it the worlds fate??

10 brave kirbys

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does anyone think the worlds gonna end in 2012 i don't think so. just becuse they say it on the myan calendar doesn't mean the worlds going to blow up. post what you think and don't call pepole crazy or stuff
 

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I'm totally gonna call them crazy. They are.

In my meager 20-odd years I have survived a good half-dozen or so apocalypses, each one more totally gonna happen than the one preceding it.

We have literally no idea what the hell the mayans meant by ending their calendar there. There are numerous ambiguities about how we translate their calendar in the first place, much less their culture. Maybe there's a spiritual significance to a cycle of however many years the calendar contained, and some sort of ritual would precede the creation of a new calendar.

There's also the obvious fact that as great as their science, technology and math were for their time, we are just a wee bit more advanced. You know, considering we are sending people into outer space, have people that live in orbit full time, and are discovering particles that can accomplish the supposedly impossible sci-fi benchmark of FTL travel. And yet, we have no science to back up an imminent doomsday. Huh. Funny.

No wait, not funny. Stupid.
 

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It's one of the most stupid rumors I've ever heard being spread around. There is so much wrong with all of this, I don't even know if there's a need to point it out. Just the idea that the world "ends" within the timespan of a year without us having even the slightest empirical hint on it is dumb. How is the world supposed to "end"? What does that even mean? It's such a vague thing to say that the world is going to "end", it's simply an empty claim with no deeper meaning to it.

Then there's also to logical dilemma that a calender can't "end". The calender is a graphical display of a certain time calculation. Just like a clock it can't "end" but only start anew at a certain point. It's complete humbug.

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I'm honestly dreading the 21st of next year, not because the world is going to end but because people are going to act ridiculous. I'm hoping I don't have to do anything that day and can just stay home...

that being said even if you do think the mayan's were privy to some deep insight that we aren't, the calendar doesn't imply anything apocalyptic. if anything from what little we know of mayan culture, it seems to indicate the coming of something like another dark ages

also

"Timewave zero" is a numerological formula that purports to calculate the ebb and flow of "novelty", defined as increase over time in the universe's interconnectedness, or organized complexity.[73] According to Terence McKenna, the universe has a teleological attractor at the end of time that increases interconnectedness, eventually reaching a singularity of infinite complexity in 2012, at which point anything and everything imaginable will occur simultaneously. He conceived this idea over several years in the early to mid-1970s while using psilocybin mushrooms and DMT.[73]
McKenna expressed "novelty" in a computer program which purportedly produces a waveform known as "timewave zero" or the "timewave". Based on McKenna's interpretation of the King Wen sequence of the I Ching,[44] the graph appears to show great periods of novelty corresponding with major shifts in humanity's biological and sociocultural evolution. He believed that the events of any given time are recursively related to the events of other times, and chose the atomic bombing of Hiroshima as the basis for calculating his end date of November 2012. When he later discovered this date's proximity to the end of the 13th b'ak'tun of the Maya calendar, he revised his hypothesis so that the two dates matched.[74]
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I'm honestly dreading the 21st of next year, not because the world is going to end but because people are going to act ridiculous. I'm hoping I don't have to do anything that day and can just stay home...

that being said even if you do think the mayan's were privy to some deep insight that we aren't, the calendar doesn't imply anything apocalyptic. if anything from what little we know of mayan culture, it seems to indicate the coming of something like another dark ages
This. Mayan calender doesn't end. It is just entering a new cycle. If you do believe in the validity of the calender, it simply means we are entering a new age, and that the world isn't ending. Even the modern Mayas don't believe anything will happen.

Also, if you've heard the "Galactic Alignment" argument, news flash. That happens every single year on December 21st.

I'd be more worried about people freaking out and doing stupid things on Dec.21st that COULD start something, rather than a prophesied event.
 

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2012? I'm more concerned about the Julian calendar which ends on December 31st, 2011.
 

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ah man awesome I get to survive THREE APOCALYPSES in 2011.

Can't wait to add that one to my collection.
 

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People are silly, they should know the Gilgamesh has to happen first before the end of the world.


Cause if you are gonna believe the world is gonna suddenly end without scientific proof.. then might as well believe in all the other stuff that's supposed to happen.
 

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Well don't look at me, man. I'm the watchdog for zombies, not creatures beyond our understanding.

If husks are part of the incursion I'll save us from them I guess but the real threat is gonna fall to someone else.
 

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I still remember when the world was supposed to end on May.
 

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WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!

Apocaps.


It would suck if it actually happened though, think of all the 3d movies you'd be missing out on.
 

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Look at all you people trying to disprove it.

Good luck doing that when you're all dead next year.
Look at this way. If I'm wrong, I'll probably be at penn state still, getting ready to graduate. I'll just crack open a cold one with my bros.
 

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If the world ends and everyone dies, we've not much to worry about or regret, 'cause we'd all be dead. If there's a zombie apocalypse, then count me the hell in; I'd so want to shoot the heads off of zombies... or eat brains if I become a zombie myself.

If nothing happens, I'll just stare at all the people who prepared themselves for nothing and silently laugh on the inside at the fact they feared nothing, just like they did with the last two raptures and back during the Y2K scare.
 

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What's the comprehensive list of apocalypses since 1988, anyway? I can't remember how many apocalypses I have in my collection.

Right now I'm just remembering the two raptures and Y2K, but I feel certain there were a few more. Oh and also the extinction event from the movie Knowing... the fact that it had a specific upcoming date means it totally counts and hell it's just as valid as the dumb 2012 **** anyway.
 

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What's the comprehensive list of apocalypses since 1988, anyway? I can't remember how many apocalypses I have in my collection.

Right now I'm just remembering the two raptures and Y2K, but I feel certain there were a few more. Oh and also the extinction event from the movie Knowing... the fact that it had a specific upcoming date means it totally counts and hell it's just as valid as the dumb 2012 **** anyway.
I remember 1997 being an asteroid threat, Y2K, 2011 predictions, and 2012.
 

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It's good to have you back Hiemie.
 

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We're all going to die horrible, slow gruesome deaths.

Imagine 1000 years of the most extreme pain and your body won't pass out.

Also, there will be zombies
 

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Mayans couldn't have been that smart or they would have saw the Spanish getting ready to take them over in the stars.

Surprised no one mentioned this, but I'm pretty sure you can look it up. That new cycle date is for 2050, not 2012. It was read wrong a couple years ago. that is especially why 2012 jokes bug me. And again, doesn't mean the end of the world, but possibly something as small as the Mayan calendar flipping. (Like 1999 to 2000)
 

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Of course the world will end in 2012.

Think about it: when have radical wackos EVER been wrong about predicting a coming apocalypse?
 

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Mayans couldn't have been that smart or they would have saw the Spanish getting ready to take them over in the stars.

Surprised no one mentioned this, but I'm pretty sure you can look it up. That new cycle date is for 2050, not 2012. It was read wrong a couple years ago. that is especially why 2012 jokes bug me. And again, doesn't mean the end of the world, but possibly something as small as the Mayan calendar flipping. (Like 1999 to 2000)
Spaniards conquered Inca and Aztec. Mayans cities were controlled, but they weren't established in the same way and it was after their empire collapsed. We really have no definitive answer of what happened to their empire.
 

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The best explanation that I've heard for the Mayan calendar is that they ran out of paper.

 

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It's simple. In my estimation if the Mayans were so smart, they wouldn't be dead.

Ergo, world will not end in 2012, and it's sad because I kinda wish it would.
 

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I thought it had something to do with the theory that every 25 000 years some form of phenomena in outer space occurs that is catastrophic. Apparently 25 000 years ago a sudden mass extinction of animal species occured too, but I'm not sure if any of this is true though.
 

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maybe the mayans have been with aliens this whole time, and they will come back in 2012 and show us all they have discovered. :3
 

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I know for a fact the Mayan prediction is bull**** and here's why...

All righty then... picture this if you will...
10 to 2 am, X, yogi DMT, and a box of krispy kreme's in my "need to know" pose just outside of area 51, contemplating the whole chosen people thingy when just then a flaming stealth banana split the sky like one would hope but never really expect to see in a place like this. Cutting right angle donuts on a dime and stopping right at my birkinstocks, and me yelping "holy ****in' ****!"

then the X file being, looking like some kinda blue green Jackie chan, with Isabella Rossellini lips, and breath that reeked of vanilla chig champa, did a slow mo matrix decent outta the butt end of the banana vessel, and hovered above my bug eyes, my gaping jaw, and my sweaty L. Ron Hubbard upper lip and all I could think was, "I hope uncle martin here doesn't notice that I pissed my ****in pants!!"

so light in his way, like an apparition, that he had me crying out...
"**** me! It's gotta be the dead head chemistry. (the) blotter got right on top o' me. Got me seeing E mutha ****in T!


and after calming me down with some orange slices and some fetal spooning, E.T. revealed to me his singular purpose. He said. "you are the chosen one. The one who will deliver the message. A message of hope for those who choose to hear it, and a warning for those who do not." Me! The chosen one. They chose me!!!! And I didn't even graduate from ****in' high school!!

Then he looked right through me with somniferous almond eyes. Don't even know what that means. Must remember to write it down.
This is so real. Like the time Dave floated away. See, my heart is pounding. cuz this **** never happens to me.
Can't breathe right now.

It was so real. Like I woke up in wonderland. all sorta terrifying. I don't wanna be alone while I tell this story.
And can anyone tell me why y'all sound like peanuts parents?
Will I ever be coming down?
This is so real. Finally it's my lucky day See, my heart is racing cuz this **** never happens to me.
Can't breathe right now.


You believe me don't you? Please believe what I've just said. See, the dead ain't touring and this wasn't all in my head. see they took me by the hand and invited me right in. then they showed me something. I don't even know where to begin.

Strapped down to my bed, feet cold and eyes red.
I'm out of my head am I alive? Am I dead.
Can't remember what they said. God damn. **** the bed.
Overwhelmed as one would be placed in my position...
Such a heavy burden now to be the one
Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending.
to write it down for all the world to see.
But I forgot my pen. **** the bed again. Typical.


Strapped down to my bed, feet cold and eyes red.
I'm out of my head am I alive? Am I dead.
Sun kissed and Sudafed Gyro scopes and infrared
won't help. I'm brain dead. Can't remember what they said.
God damn. **** the bed.


Can't remember what they said to me.
Can't remember what they said to make me out to be the hero.
Can't remember what they said.
Bob help me.
Can't remember what they said.


We don't know and we won't know.
God damn **** the bed.
 

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I thought it had something to do with the theory that every 25 000 years some form of phenomena in outer space occurs that is catastrophic. Apparently 25 000 years ago a sudden mass extinction of animal species occured too, but I'm not sure if any of this is true though.
I just find it hard to believe that a civilisation with some degree of technological sophistication like ours would be wiped out my some sudden climate shift.

I would certainly change the way we live, if it happened, but wipe us out? Really?

You do realise there are people who live with no electricity or modern amenities in Siberia, right.

We're not some pathetic beasts, we're human beings and our success comes from adaptability.

That's the one time you'll hear me praise humanity.
 
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