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Thats awesome. I havent seen Jab 1 to Fsmash true combo yet (I didnt try for very long) but it's definitely formidable. Tipper jab 1 will defiintely lead to tipper Fsmash at kill percents.
Yeah, just tested it more, and it's not being consistent on fast fallers and some medium weights(jab to Upsmash).
No Dair spike is the same. You never had to be directly over them, all you had to do is hit them on frame 11, and not any other frame. It would spike and usually frame 11's hitbox would connect when they are under you. But not always. It's the same though, people said the same thing last patch
I haven't been able to pull them off. Anyone got footage?
really? its just jab 1 than do what ever.
Jab1 to DB is still extremely viable, it's a kill confirm for a wee bit (around the 70s-90s, then it starts becoming a bit harder to connect the final hit) but it's also a great damage racking tool, which is mainly what I use it for. I haven't recorded any footage of me doing it, or at least I'm pretty sure I haven't, but I'll try to by tomorrow morning if you remind me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7pSAsoxjqc
jab 1 into tipper f smash is a thing. its tricky but solid kills at 60%
I heard that's only a thing for heavy characters, as smaller/lighter characters can fast fall out of it and manage to not get hit by the f-smash; I can't seem to get it off on Meta Knight either way. Perhaps I'm wrong, though.
that might be the case but ya can still go for them air dodge reads and just hold the f smash charge or just go for a jab fair combo or somthin.
Yeah that kOs like at %145 on average for most characters xD Its a start, im mean it IS a true combo, so theres that.haha
It's always been 10 tipped.
Kill percents or tipper fsmash kill percents?
Tipper jab 1 doesn't true combo into tipper Fsmash until maybe 200. But tipper jab 1 doesn't put them (another Marth) into tumble animation until 122%. At 121% tipper Fsmash connects perfectly. It won't combo but that doesn't mean it won't work. Or you can keep charging Fsmash until they air dodge into the ground. FYI non tipper jab won't put a Marth into tumble until 175%.
Interesting to note, I will, of course, find the best time to pull out a fsmash due to conditioning, but utilt's buff is fantastic.
Nair was buffed, less landing lag. I'm guessing 2 frames less. Utilt lags 3-5 frames less to the point where it combos into itself (if you hit with the back hit then turnaround and hit with the front) and where the back hit of Utilt combos into Uair. Nothing about Utilt was a nerf. Well actually in my opinion, the body hit sending opponents vertical instead of horizontal is a nerf but whatever. Overall Utilt was brought back to Brawl power and lag (maybe a little less lag than brawl, maybe the same). Only it still doesn't do damage.
Sweet, and maybe after you condition someone into expecting the up tilt after a jab you can more easily pull off the airdodge bait and punish. Delicious.
I know. The possibilities are endless!! Mindgames mindgames mindgames
Yeah Lucina truly seems redundant at this point. I wish she was the fastest of the FE bunch yet dealing low damage or something. I'd be down for that.
Seen a lot of new true combos with this. Still unsafe, though... Wonder how it affects SH DB1 -> falling Nair -> Stuff? combos
