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  • If there's people who think the Smash series is art and should end just because Ultimate left the series on a high note and don't want to risk having a Smash 6 to ruin the series after Ultimate, the Smash is not art. It's a museum. We need the Smash series to go on and on forever to showcase future games which are art. Plus who says Smash 6 wouldn't be good? Nintendo has all the money and resources needed to make Smash 6 have even more content than Ultimate had and if some 3rd parties can't come back, we can just add other characters to fill in for them.
    Remember that at least one major 1st party title always releases every 2-3 months. We got Age of Calamity in November and SM3DW + Bowser's Fury is coming next month.
    Even if Banjo doesn't a new game, his Smash inclusion is just as good as a new Banjo game.
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    At this point, I'm fine with just having Rare characters in Smash over new games as Rare is a former shell of itself nowadays and they don't even make games for their classic IPs anymore but instead allow Microsoft to let another studio do the job.
    I think the fans who hate the FE characters don't hate them because they're anime, they hate them because the FE characters have serious looking faces and designs. Link, Pit and Hero are all anime too but the fans don't hate them because they have silly looking faces and designs.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Most people like that don’t have a problem with Fire Emblem or the characters, just the fact that there’s aren’t too any of them, and Fire Emblem isn’t that big of a series compared to the other Nintendo series, which have less characters than FE. The character designs really don't have anything to do with it
    Nah
    Nah
    It's not that either, nevermind that Link and Hero don't really qualify as "silly" anyway.

    People hate FE characters in Smash because it's an easy scapegoat to use for people who don't get exactly what they want and feel entitled enough to ***** and moan about it.
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    RetrogamerMax
    Some people have a problem with them looking like anime characters which, they kind of are which isn't a problem since Smash is a Japanese game. But most peoples' problem with the Fire Emblem cast is they have 8 fighters while most other series only have 1, 2, or 3. That alone pisses a lot of people off.
    If Elma was to be in Vol. 2, Xenoblade X's music is largely copyrighted so tracks like Uncontrollable would need to have instrumental remixes.
    So many Pixar films have either two protagonists or a protagonist and a very important deuteragonist. Mike & Sully, WALL-E & EVA, Woody & Buzz, Remy & Linguini, Carl & Russel, Arlo & Spot, Miguel & Hector, Ian & Barley, Marlin & Dory and now Joe & 22.
    If you're currently in quarantine because you have covid, try leaving a note on your chimney asking Santa to leave your presents at the doorstep. If he goes into your house through the chimney, he could catch covid and if he dies from covid, Christmas will be forever ruined and he won't be able to give presents again.
    If someone picks on you for being a Geno supporter, then that is in the wrong, not you.
    BonafideFella
    BonafideFella
    that is true but what if i hate geno after i am a fan?
    Should Olaf's Frozen Adventure have been a TV special instead of being tied in with Coco? It is 22 minutes long.
    Do Geno fans know how Travis and Heihachi fans felt when their characters got deconfirmed via Mii costumes?
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    RetrogamerMax
    I think they know it's just the Geno fans have been pushing real hard for his inclusion since the Brawl days. It's frustrating to see all that hard work and support build up over the years to almost amount to nothing. Though Geno fans did get a Mii costume in Smash 4 and it was brought back in Ultimate, it still doesn't feel right for many people as the Geno fans have been pushing as hard and long as the Ridley, K. Rool, and Banjo & Kazooie fans to get their characters in.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Isaac didn't get in either and he's requested too.
    Mamboo07
    Mamboo07
    So was Waluigi.
    Miraculous doesn't begin to describe FF7 getting a reasonable amount of content. SE would usually never allow this much FF7 content but Sakurai got all of the copyright holders to be OK with it.
    If Geno doesn't get in into Vol. 2, then oh well there's always the next Smash game and we can't have every bandwagon character be newcomers in the same Smash game.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Isn't that what a bandwagon character is?
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Bandwagon is when someone jumps on a popular opinion just because its popular. Most people who support Geno do so because they played and loved SMRPG, that's not bandwagoning.
    Would Steve fit in better if he had the same color scheme as all the other characters?
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    ....What the hell is this supposed to mean? Last time you talked about Steve, you said he fit better than the FE cast.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    He does but other people say he still looks out of place.
    FF7 is a childhood classic for many even though FF7 wasn't made for children. The kids were probably drawn to it by its cartoony visuals though.
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    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    By then, they were amazing, eye-popping visuals that took our breath away. It was the greatest thing any of us had ever seen. I remember thinking nothing about how cartoony they were because, back then, they weren’t. They looked very realistic and believable.
    The Vol. 2 characters are releasing at a much faster rate than people thought, perhaps the 11th character will release before June.
    Why couldn't Nintendo get ahold of Sephiroth's English voice actor?
    Omnislash ver. 5. Is there a future update coming that gives Cloud a 2nd Final Smash to use when his Limit Gauge is full and he has a Smash Ball?
    Internal Frickface
    Internal Frickface
    i'm 100% sure it's just an alternate version of omnislash that's exclusive to his advent children alts

    i've seen people going around saying that it's gonna be exclusive to when cloud fights sephiroth but i don't really believe that
    If FP8 does get announced at TGA, the trailer will probably have gameplay footage. Joker's trailer didn't have any because he was so early in development. There's no excuse for a non gameplay trailer this time.
    Cloud and Joker had very weak connections to Nintendo prior to debuting in the Smash series but they were still OK to include because one, FF7 was originally meant for the N64 and two, though FF7 wasn't on a Nintendo console, Cloud was still in other games on Nintendo platforms and plenty of Nintendo customers like Final Fantasy so Cloud was eligible. And for Joker, Persona Q2 was released about a week before his Smash announcement and there are Nintendo customers that like Persona so Joker was allowed too.
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    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Fighters Pass are meant to sell, but they’re not necessarily meant to sell Nintendo. No one’s gonna say “Oh man! I love Cloud in Smash, now I’m gonna go buy Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories for the GameBoy Advance!” Theyre gonna go to PLAYSTATION if they’re really interested in it. It’s the same thing with Joker
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    A 3rd party character can have a strong connection to Nintendo and still be a strong selling point and appeal to PlayStation and XBOX customers. Look at Steve, his series has a ton of games on Nintendo platforms, the Switch version of Minecraft sold more than one million copies in Japan, Minecraft has Nintendo's respect and Steve is much more recognizable than Cloud and Joker combined.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Point being?
    Mario Tennis Ultra Smash exists to be a shovelware game and yet it fails as a shovelware game. It only sold 0.54 million copies while other shovelware games sell way better than that.
    This pandemic might get to be written in future school history books and future children and teens will have to write essays and take tests that are about the 2020 pandemic.
    I feel very bad for the 2020 high school grads who've been dreaming of having a huge graduation ceremony like every else. This would have been such a great year if the virus never came into existence.
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    Nah, would have sucked regardless of the virus. It was a lot like 2016
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    And both of those years are election years. Hmmmm...
    But yeah, agreed. Missing out on my graduation was not very poggers. Hopefully it won't be the same thing come senior year.
    FE: Radiant Dawn is a great game but Ike is established 16 chapters into the 38 chapter story and he's one of the main characters. I hear that a good writing tip is to establish all of your main characters near the start of the story. Also Ike gets no screentime until 16 chapters in.
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    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    And then he hogs the screentime
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    But only half of Part 3 is mainly about him and only one third of Part 4 is mainly about him.
    Would you buy a $20 Subspace Emisarry remake if it was a DLC expansion for Ultimate? Every level and cutscene would be remade with Ultimate's color scheme and you could even use the characters who weren't in Brawl but that would be a completion bonus for after you complete the main story.
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