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  • It's June and Vol. 2 was released in January. How do we STILL not know who the first character is? You'd think there would be at least a Joker styled trailer for the first character by now, but no.
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    Shroob
    Shroob
    "How do we still not know"

    You can thank Covid for ****ing that up.
    Cyborg Sun
    Cyborg Sun
    Even taking COVID out of the picture, Volume 2 was always meant to be slower, while it is giving us one more character than the previous one, it's meant to go until December of 2021. Plus, we at least know fighter 6 is from ARMS? But COVID may have slowed things down even more, yes.
    ARMS 3rd anniversary just so happens to be next Tuesday and Tuesday is when Nintendo usually lets us know about Smash related news. June 16th is probably when FP6 will release.
    I've realized that Microsoft is still a competitor to Nintendo even though the two companies are friends now so we might as well have a Sony rep too. The question is, which Sony rep? Kratos can't join unless he appeared in the Nintendo console version of a different game on a Nintendo console.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    PaRappa would be my choice. Kratos or Ratchet are the most likely through. I don't think any Sony game characters have appeared on Nintendo consoles except Q*Bert, who isn't owned by Sony's gaming division anyway, he's owned by their film division.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    I know you probably get comments like this a lot, but there's no way that fan rule can be true. "Only Nintendo characters" was a similar fan rule once. Using the Joker example, if he's truly only in Smash because of Persona Q2 why isn't the game itself represented in Smash? Besides, Sakurai has stated that Smash is a celebration of gaming history, not Nintendo history.
    Why does Smash only have one character that belongs to a non Japanese company? Smash is made by a Japanese company is not an excuse for this. At all. There's tons of western franchises Japan likes, so that means they would want characters from these games. Crash Bandicoot, Steve from Minecraft, Ezio, the list goes on and on.
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    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Two words: Language. Barrier.

    It's probably easier to get 3rd party characters from Japanese companies.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Yeah, and even then they admitted that they're kinda starting to run out of noteworthy JP ones that aren't in yet, so might as well start experimenting.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Well, as far as I know, there's still Koei Tecmo, Arc System Works, Spike Chunsoft...

    And there's still represented companies who don't have some IPs represented yet. Just to name a few:

    SEGA:
    -Puyo Puyo
    -Sakura Wars
    -Streets of Rage
    -The House of the Dead

    NAMCO:
    -Xenogears
    -Tekken
    -Time Crisis
    -Other arcade classics (like Dig Dug, for instance)

    Square Enix:
    -Kingdom Hearts (technically?)
    -The World Ends with You
    Why does Nintendo keep leaving us in the dark every few months? That's worse than letting us know a character is coming several months in advance. That would torture us by making us wait several months but at least that would let us know when the character is coming.
    Last summer two DLC characters were shown at E3 so it's likely that the 2nd Vol. 2 character will be announced alongside the ARMS rep. Said character may get a Terry style trailer or a gameplay footage trailer if we're lucky.
    In order for 2B to be eligible to join Smash, she must appear in a different game on a Nintendo console first. Then and only then will she be eligible. Joker was eligible because the Japanese version of Persona Q2 released before Joker was first announced for Smash.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    Do you SERIOUSLY believe that fan rule? Smash isn't about Nintendo any more - if anything it stopped being about Nintendo once Ryu get in.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Cloud wasn’t in any games on Nintendo consoles before Smash 4 so how is 2B different?
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
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    Champion of Hyrule Champion of Hyrule
    Ryu had several games on Nintendo consoles starting with SF2 on the Super Nintendo, and Cloud appeared in these Nintendo games before his official Smash appearance:
    -Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Game Boy Advance)
    -Kingdom Hearts: Re:Coded (DS)
    -The Theatrhythm series (3DS)
    -Final Fantasy Explorers (3DS)

    So yeah; Cloud wasn't nearly extravagant as Ryu in terms of Nintendo-related appearance prior to Smash 4, but they were definitely there in both cases.
    Every Fighter's Pass character can appeal to new audiences who have never played Smash before and/or don't have a Switch.

    Joker and Hero can appeal to PlayStation fans who play Persona 5 and DQ11.
    Banjo can appeal to XBOX fans who play Rare Replay.
    Terry can appeal to Sony and XBOX fans who play SNK games.
    Byleth can appeal to people who play Fire Emblem Heroes but don't have a Switch. Byleth is in FE Heroes.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Sakura Shinguji from Sakura Wars can appeal to people who play Fire Emblem but are looking for more depth.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    You saying FE dosen't have depth?
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    No, I'm not saying that. Sakura Wars just has a bit more depth.
    What if a face mask was Mii headgear in DLC? The mask could have a Smash symbol on it.
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    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    It would be a great way to show solidarity to the virus or even allow purchases to towards helping those affected by the virus. Sadly though, I think this wouldn’t be received well by those outside the Smash circle. Kind of a “too soon” type of thing. Also, beating on someone for having a mask on has different connotations to it (ie Hong Kong banning face masks due to protestors against Chinese influence using them to hide identities).
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    I apologize. This idea wasn't meant to be offensive.
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    I don’t find personally offensive but I would imagine there are those that do. As well saw with MGW and the Native American issue, I can honestly say including a face mask would probably ruffle to many feathers. I safer and less offensive way to go about it is maybe feature avatars of Smash characters in masks.
    I want to be able to play Diddy Kong Racing on something other than N64. It needs to be included in Nintendo Switch Online when N64 games are added.
    Rex should be about as tall as Young Link if he joins because that's how tall he is compared to Shulk.
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    RetrogamerMax
    Well Smash is never accurate with size or height because K. Rool is around the same size as DK in Smash while he is like 4 or 5 times bigger than DK in the DKC games. Same with Ridley compared to Samus. In fact, I would say their giant sizes after taking a mushroom would be their accurate sizes or close to it.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    How tall should Rex be in Smash then?
    Should Xenoblade Chronicles 1 have been E10+ instead of T? The game is incredibly tame other than mild language and some blood. E10+ could have worked but not E.
    How were good boys and girls supposed to know who Joker was? GOOD boys and girls don't play games that they're too young to play unless their parents let them play games like Persona 5.
    Don't you hate it when TV shows and movies portray Star Wars fans as losers and nerds?
    I wish Banjo could do the Pack Whack for at least one of his moves. Kazooie can do the Wing Whack.
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    RetrogamerMax
    DUDE!!! Imagine if Banjo had Taxi Pack in Smash and it worked similar to Isabelle and Villager's Pocket. That would be so broken and awesome. But I imagine the other player captured in Banjo's backpack would be able to escape especially at a low damage ratio.
    Rate this moveset for the ARMS character.

    Neutral B: Dragon glove. It fires a long laser that can be reflected even though it can't be reflected in ARMS. Also the ARMS character has a Rush Gauge next to their percentage and when it fills up, the neutral B will become doing a Rush Attack for one use only.

    Side B: Chilla glove. Press and hold B charge up the glove and when it's done charging, do the side B again to throw a long ranged punch that freezes opponents. If you let go of B before the glove is done charging, a ring will appear around you that deflects attacks and projectiles but the ring will dissapear after one second also you won't be able to throw the freezing punch unless you fully charge the Chilla glove.

    Up B: ARMS character punches the ground and recoils himself into the air. This leaves him in a helpless state but press A or B just before landing to bounce back into the air. This also works on opponents but it won't send them downward unlike footstooling.

    Down B: Clapback glove. It's a shield that reflects projectiles and also repells opponents like a pinball. So it functions like a Bumper that reflects projectiles.

    Final Smash: Hedlok. ARMS character wears Hedlok's mask which gives him 4 extra ARMS and the character does a flurry of long ranged punches using all 6 arms and then uses Hedlok's mask to fire a ball of energy that explodes when it hits something.
    Since Banjo joined, one of four things need to happen.

    - Rare Replay Switch port.
    - Banjo-Kazooie, Tooie and Diddy Kong Racing for Switch Online when N64 games are added to Switch Online.
    - Banjo-Kazooie remake for both Switch and XBOX One.
    - New Banjo game for both Switch and XBOX One.
    The term kids game means kids are the only primary target. All Smash Bros. fans including the ones that are kids should all be equally important regardless of age.
    This "new life" of social distancing and staying apart from others is all just temporary until the vaccine is ready. Once enough people get the vaccine, life will return to how it's supposed to be.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    I'm with you on that. I'm fine being inside, the only things plaguing me are boredom and homework.
    RealPokeFan11
    RealPokeFan11
    I wouldn't mind this temporary "new life" if our president was actually trying to stop the virus and continuing lockdown. He's pretty much completely reopened the country, and everyone threw their common sense and safety standards out the window. He's also refused to put the country under lockdown once the second wave hits. It's gotten to the point where I want to move to New Zealand because their president actually gives a **** and almost completely destroyed the virus there at this point (usually 0-2 new cases every two days) I've had enough.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Companies could go out of business if the lockdown goes on any longer. Plus people have cabin fever from having to stay home all the time.
    Rare pretty much invented anything you normally think of when you think of the Donkey Kong franchise. Without them, DK wouldn't have the design he has now, Diddy Kong and King K. Rool wouldn't exist and Tropical Freeze and other more recent DK games wouldn't exist because they took the Rare games's influence.
    Banjo-Threeie should be a prequel to Nuts and Bolts where we learn how Gruntilda's head got buried in the rocks.
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    RetrogamerMax
    We already kind of find that out in Banjo-Tooie. After the Hag 1 explodes her whole body is destroyed aside from her head and everyone is playing catch with her head at the end. They probably throwed her head off of the tower afterwards and she landed in those pile of rocks untl she got out in Nuts & Bolts.
    Megadoomer
    Megadoomer
    I figured she had spent eight years getting from Cauldron Keep to Spiral Mountain while stuck as a head, and getting through the rocks was the last step. Being buried under a rock for two years and dying just made her angrier.
    Some may think Wolf deserved to be Smash 4 DLC more than Lucas did. Here's the thing though, Lucas is more unique and fun to use than Wolf is so Lucas was higher priority.
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    link2702
    lucas is more unique than wolf?
    How?

    Lucas still feels way closer to ness than wolf does to fox, and while both still play way differently compared to who they were based off of, lucas has always felt "closer" to ness.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Lucas has a tether grab and he can use PSI Magnet to heal himself.
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    link2702
    ness has psi magnet and it literally functions just like lucas's it's just in front of him.
    Who could possibly be the villian in Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition: Future Connected? All of the main story's villians were killed so they may or may not invent a new villian.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    What else is new, us Streets of Rage fans had to wait until 4's release to find out if anyone would replace Mr. X.
    Prediction, this is when each Vol. 2 character will release:

    FP6: June 2020.
    FP7: August 2020.
    FP8: October 2020.
    FP9: December 2020.
    FP10: Feburary 2021.
    FP11: April 2021.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    December 2021 is a placeholder end date, so we don't know when we'll get any of the other characters, so it's best not to predict anything. It rarely works anyway.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    FP7: October
    FP8: December
    FP9: April 2021
    FP10: August 2021
    FP11: December 2021
    Coolboy
    Coolboy
    well as long as new anime series are staying delayed..don't count on this schedule...
    The N64 version of Conker's Bad Fur Day didn't release in Japan but Japan would still recognize Conker from Diddy Kong Racing and Rare Replay. Conker needs to join.
    If Banjo gets a new game it should be called Banjo-Rebootie because it would be a reboot.
    Why do people still think relevance matters when deciding the roster? Banjo shows that discontinued franchises can still be part of Smash.
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    RetrogamerMax
    Because most people think Nintendo wants Sakurai to choose entirely new characters for promotional reasons for the majority of the roster. Though that isn't entirely the case. We get a good chunk of popular, unrelevant, and legacy characters in each Smash game. There is enough diversity in each Smash's newcomer section to go around. Though, Fire Emblem got 3 newcomers and a cut Melee veteran back in Smash 4 which I would say is why too many characters to add for one franchise in one Smash game.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Because people refuse to study history. It's been that way since Melee.
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    RetrogamerMax
    KirbyWorshipper2465 KirbyWorshipper2465 That's true. There is even people that refuse to study real history and you know what they say: "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
    What would happen if Jonsey from Fortnite was a Mii Gunner costume?
    Remember, don't blame China for the pandemic. That will help lead to a war between the US and China and things will be worse than they are already.
    Coolboy
    Coolboy
    i don't hate China but it is kinda their fault we have to deal with this ****, so people are in the right to blame China, but hating on them or be racistic that's just rediculous af.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    If anything, the blame should lay on the animal (consumption) market. At least they're finally treating dogs like pets now, as it should.
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    link2702
    America's own government is heavily to blame for why it took off so much here. An idiot president who constantly claims it's a "hoax" by his political rivals until it becomes too late is a huge part of the reason we're in this mess. Add in how he lies through his teeth all the time making bogus claims on treatments, including telling people that injecting/drinking a disinfectant cleaner will help, and you not only have to worry about people dying from the virus, but by doing something stupid all because they hang on to every word their "leader" tells them as if it's true, while ignoring all professionals who are telling them point blank to not listen to ANY "medical" advice coming from Chester Cheetoh's lips.

    Our country right now doesn't have a leader, and in fact has a dangerous compulsive liar who doesn't care what damage he may cause to others.
    Remember, Banjo has four mainline games, not three. Grunty's Revenge counts even though it's a GBA game.
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    I never played Grunty's Revenge myself, but I'm pretty sure it's kind of acknowledge as filler of certs since Nuts & Bolts didn't bring it up. I know it sounds stupid, but honestly I think Rare kind of pretends the GBA games never happened for some reason. Though I would love to check Grunty's Revenge out sometime as it looks underrated.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Working at Microsoft made it risky to reference Nintendo products, at least when Phil Spencer wasn't running things.
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    RetrogamerMax
    Plus Grunty's Revenge was a GBA game and Microsoft has never released a portable Xbox console before so there was no way of putting it on XBLA or Rare Replay because of that I guess.
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