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  • I wonder why Origami King wasn't revealed in the March direct. They could have saved it for the end of the direct and it would be the "there's one more thing to show you" kind of reveal.
    Gruntilda is to Banjo what Dr. Robotnik is to Sonic.
    Why was "SSBU is for good boys and girls" the highlight of the Terry direct? We already had a feeling it was for good boys and girls.
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    It's Smash's excuse for discrediting women. Yeah I'm an SJW so...
    AEMehr
    AEMehr
    @Madame Lesley what kind of backwards thinking brought that take of all things from a silly translator joke
    AEMehr
    AEMehr
    forgot to actually respond to your question inkling,
    the good boys and girls joke caught on because its ridiculous that they said "We couldn't include Mai due to CERO ratings" as "Children play Smash too, so she's not showing up"
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    So...I see you're quite aware of BK, eh...

    You're kinda acting concerned as if BK's getting cut from the roster. What do you think are the odds of him NOT getting in the next Smash game? If you were to ask me however, I'd say Nintendo bigwigs are gonna keep him in to keep fans like ya happy.

    PS. Try and say BK next time? Leaving Kazooie out is a microaggression for discrediting women.
    After Rare and Microsoft see how positively received the Banjo DLC was, hopefully they'll change their minds about Banjo-Threeie and decide to make it. But it should be for both XBOX One and Switch. If Minecraft can be on other companies' platforms then why can't a new Banjo game be?
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    1. Minecraft is a multiplayer game, presumably Banjo wouldn't be. Multiplayer games benefit a lot more from cross-platform releases, eating into the value of exclusivity for a major platform owner.
    2. Minecraft had already been ported to numerous consoles by Mojang before Microsoft acquired it. It was never funded by Microsoft in order to entice people to buy their hardware, so exclusivity was never part of why they got it.
    3. Releasing on both Switch and Xbox One would require Banjo-Threeie's graphical fidelity to be significantly worse to match the Switch's specs.
    4. Why wouldn't Banjo-Threeie be an Xbox Series X title in the first place?
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    So why can Super Lucky's Tale be on Switch but not a Banjo game?
    Why do people say Banjo is a non Japanese character? He originated in a DK game and that makes him a Donkey Kong character. Banjo-Kazooie is a Donkey Kong spin off game because a Donkey Kong character is the main character of it. It doesn't matter who owns the rights to Banjo, he's still part of the DK series.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Diddy Kong and King K. Rool were made in England too and they're also Donkey Kong characters.
    ZephyrZ
    ZephyrZ
    ^Yeah, and some people consider them western Donkey Kong characters.

    If anything though, these discussions can show how arbitrary the distinction between "western" and "Japanese" characters can be. I don't think it's something we should get too hung up on.
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    RetrogamerMax
    In origin, Diddy and K. Rool are British characters because of being created by Rare but by ownership they're Japanese characters because of being owned by Nintendo. So in that regard, currently and forever they're Japanese characters.
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    What type of characters would you prefer: Western characters in Smash or Japanese characters in Smash? Prefer the latter tho.
    What if Baldi (Baldi's Basics) was a Mii costume for Swordfighters? He can use his ruler as a sword.
    If Sakurai said Buzzy Beetle got the most votes among negotiable and realizable characters, would you believe him? The ballot was mainly used to decide the Ultimate newcomers. Smash 4 Bayonetta was probably just an ad for Bayonetta 2.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    A game can be promoted after it's been released. Commercials for a product don't stop airing after the product has been released.
    Megadoomer
    Megadoomer
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    RetrogamerMax
    Megadoomer Megadoomer Exactly! I voted for K. Rool in the Smash Ballot and I was disappointed to hear that Bayonetta won or supposedly was the most easily negotiated popular character to put in from the Ballot into Smash 4. I stop thinking about it because it was over afterwards and I had no control over the matter. Plus I had low to mid hopes K. Rool was going to make it as DLC at the time and I really wasn't sure if he would be popular enough in the Smash Ballot or not to make it in. I'm thankful I got K. Rool, Ridley, and Banjo & Kazooie in Ultimate and I don't care if Bayonetta beat them in the Ballot or not. Besides, the Smash Ballot was a suggestion box not an election as almost everyone saw it as.
    We need more non iconic 3rd parties besides Bayonetta and Joker. Banjo and Terry don't count because they USED to be icons. I'm counting characters who were never iconic.
    Banjo wouldn't have lost his icon status if Microsoft used him correctly. Why don't they use Banjo very often?
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    RetrogamerMax
    Like Wario Wario Wario Wario Wario Wario said, a majority of the original staff that made the N64 Banjo-Kazooie games and Rare games in general in the 90s all left the company right when the buyout was going on. A lot of Rare employees wanted to stay with Nintendo while the higher ups at Rare and the Stamper brothers the founders were the ones that were "O'key dokey!" With Microsoft purchasing their company since that would get them a lot of money out of it.

    I believe Rare and Microsoft either didn't care or just didn't know what to do with all the old Rare IPs after so much of the original staff left. Same thing with Nintendo and DKC since Rare and the staff working on those games left Nintendo completely after the Microsoft purchase and Nintendo didn't know what to properly do with the franchise until they gave it to Retro to work on it in 2010. It's why DKC was in spin off hell in the 2000s.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Imagine where Banjo would be today if Rare used him correctly. He would be at least as famous as Crash Bandicoot.
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    RetrogamerMax
    Banjo & Kazooie could have been Microsoft's platforming mascot in general had they used them more properly over the years. It's sad really because I wouldn't be complaining about the buyout if Microsoft had Rare pumping out quality games like in the 90s every so often.
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    If you like sharing your ideas so much, feel free to visit my general female character thread! I'D love to hear your ideas there!
    Every DLC character has someone to keep them company except Terry.
    Byleth has Sothis.
    Banjo has Kazooie and the Jinjos.
    Joker has Arsene and the P5 crew.
    Hero has a Slime and other DQ heroes.
    I'm really hoping FP6 is Spring Man. He's the most logical choice to promote ARMS.
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    RetrogamerMax
    I would only want Spring Man so he could destroy the Assist Trophy, Spirit, and Mii costume deconfirmed fan rule forever. Other than that, I would prefer Min Min as the Arms rep over him or any other Arms character.
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    And yet Smash is unwilking to add more women to their already male dominated roster.
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    RetrogamerMax
    Well the order of franchise character inclusion always goes like this in Smash: Protagonist, co-protagonist, antagonist. The protagonist always goes first no matter who it is. We will always get the person on the cover first before we get their friends and their enemies in.
    It's weird how the morale of Ralph Breaks the Internet goes directly against the morale of Wreck-It Ralph. In Wreck-It Ralph, we learn that the characters shouldn't leave their games while the arcade is open or else their game could get unplugged. So Vanellope shouldn't have left Sugar Rush.
    Will Conker be in Vol. 2?
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    I would attribute that to Banjo and Conker being partially connected both within the same game as well as paired games. I would argue that at least Rash and Fulgore are more likely than Conker. That being said, that would also require having a second Microsoft Rep which I don’t see happening and, if it did, they wouldn’t go the Rare route again and opt for Master Chief, Gears of War, or Minecraft probably.

    Then again, I never got into Conker. The game never really got me interested but I’m not a fan of potty-humor. Banjo though was my jam and I’m still a dedicated fan of Killer Instinct; both when it was Nintendo and the rebooted version. So perhaps me not seeing Conker as appearing on FP2 is simply bias. I’m willing to bet money we won’t be getting another Microsoft Rep.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Eh, doubt it
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    RetrogamerMax
    I wouldn't be surprised though if Master Chief get's in before this game is all over.
    What are some companies that should never be put in Smash?

    - Disney. Sorry Sora fans but if Disney got a rep, that could lead to Disney buying Nintendo and nobody would want that to happen. Plus Smash is for video game characters, not Disney characters.

    - Sony. Nintendo and Sony are bitter rivals so Sony characters have no place in Smash. Unless Nintendo and Sony end their rivalry and become friends. (Delusional fantasy.)
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    Activision is alledgedly ran by a pedophile so I personally don't want them either.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    We need another non Japanese company in Smash so Microsoft won't be the only one.
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Perkilator Perkilator I don’t know much about that allegations that @JDCabrera mentioned and, to date, they are still allegations due to, from what I’ve read, a link to Epstein and his island of underage debauchery. Until these allegations are true and his involvement there comes to light, I’m not going to cast judgement. Crash is still good. Hell, even though I’m angry at Bluzzard with with-holding prize money and event banning for making pro-Hong Kong statements, I wouldn’t be crushed if Tracer/Thrall/Diablo/Kerrigan made it into Smash. A bit disappointed because Blizzard, a company I have long loved, is now involved. So, even if these allegations are true about Activision, Crash getting in would still be a good thing in my book. I mean, Hero got in and the DQ music composer is a racist, homophobe, Holocaust denier, etc
    I like how the P5 crew watches their language during Joker's trailer. Doesn't Ryuji usually swear in P5?
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    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    Super Smash Bros. is a game for good boys and good girls
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    And everyone else. If it was only for good boys and girls, it wouldn't have any Persona 5 content at all.
    Saying Banjo-Kazooie is a Mario 64 rip off is like saying Donkey Kong Country is a Super Mario Bros. rip off. Banjo-Kazooie and Donkey Kong Country were both created by Rare also Banjo is a Donkey Kong character who has his own series since he first appeared in Diddy Kong Racing.
    Anyone who thinks Banjo's Breegull Blaster mode is useless doesn't understand its usefulness. It's meant to be used on opponents that are right in front of Banjo because doing that sends the victims upward and then you can jump up to where they are and keep shooting them while they're vulnerable.
    Oz o:
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    I thought we were past that. People would say that the first few weeks or so, until people like Tearbear and Trela started showing the kind of stuff you can do with it. It's definitely deceitful, for the better, but still not a move I'll ever use on purpose.
    Has Ultimate ever tugged at you heartstrings in a good way? For example the E3 version of the main theme is enough to make a grown man cry and Banjo's reveal was a happy tear jerker because Banjo finally came home after nearly 15 years.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Mainly just “EVERYONE IS HERE!” because I got to see nearly 20 years of this franchise right in front of me.
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    So Kazooie doesn't exist?
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    I feel I was the only one who never cared for Banjo but loved Hero when he was first released
    Some may say Cloud made no impact on Nintendo's history but that's not entirely true. The eShop version of FF7 is one of the eShop's best selling games so that's a big impact on Nintendo's history.
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    Perkilator
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    …Aren’t you the same person who asked how Cloud was important enough to Nintendo to warrant a spot in Smash?
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Now I see that he did do something important for Nintendo.
    Do anyone besides Nintendo fans play Rare Replay? There has to be at least a few XBOX only fans who like Rare's games. Right?
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    I dunno...
    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    I think it'll be hard to find non-Nintendo fans in a forums about a Nintendo game XD
    dinkeytom
    dinkeytom
    XBox fans like Conker, Perfect Dark, Viva Pinata and other games from that era of Rare. They also like Killer Instinct and Sea of Thieves. I think Rare managed to find their niche within the XBox eco-system and I am happy for them.
    Are you excited for when the economy reopens? At first we would be able to dine in at restaurants and go to movie theaters and other things would open back up again in the future. Sure there can only be a few people in the restaurants and theaters at a time but it's better than nothing.
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    OnyanRings
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    Personally, not really, since i really never did any of those things in the first place.
    However, i can imagine that it would be much more painful for more socially active people.
    RealPokeFan11
    RealPokeFan11
    I'm an ambivert. I sometimes hate people, but still want some interaction and activity in my life. (I've been thinking of doing a lot of traveling in the future to fulfill my life) But as of now, public safety is top priority.
    Rare earned its place in Smash. Without Rare, the DK series wouldn't be where it is today. They invented about 80% of all side characters in the DK series. Since they earned a slot, Banjo was their main mascot so he was the most logical choice to be the Rare rep.
    Toon Marth, Toon Robin, Toon Corrin, Toon every other FE rep. Would you like the FE reps if they looked cartoony? One reason people don't like the FE reps is because they look out of place next to all of the cartoony looking characters.
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    Well I'd like to see Toon Snake, Toon Simon, and Toon Richter and dub them Toonami.
    ZephyrZ
    ZephyrZ
    Yet no one has any issues with Samus for that reason.

    Anyway I'd personally prefer if characters remained reflective of their source materials. Smash is full of clashing art styles - that should be embraced as part of its wacky charm.
    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    Toon Ridley would be so ADORABLE! "awww he's so cu-" *gets impaled*
    Conker, Rash and Jago could have been spirits in Banjo's spirit board. Just saying. Terry came with spirits from other SNK games.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Terry coming with other SNK characters is mostly because of KoF, which is pretty much an SNK crossover title although it doesn't feature Samurai Shodown odd enough which does get spirits. Anyways for Banjo-Kazooie's spirits I would stick mostly to characters in Diddy Kong Racing
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    Maybe there will be a Rare spirit event in the future where Conker, Rash and Jago are the new spirits to collect.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Unless Rare Replay gets a Switch port, I wouldn't hold my breath on that happening. Spirit events for new inclusions mainly pertain towards series getting any recent releases.
    Pools and amusement parks must open this summer. Coronavirus, shmoronavirus. It's a sin to leave them closed during summertime. If we would still have to social distance and if they would have to limit the number of people at pools and amusement parks at a time then that's fine though.
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    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    No, we can't have any more people die from the virus.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    It sucks to have pools closed, but there's a damn good reason
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    I tried to do a triple flip off the high dive as a kid and belly flopped so hard on the water that I was nearly knocked out. So I started to sink to the bottom of the deep end. Mind you, the lifeguard wasn’t watching cause he was flirting with girls so my friend had to come get and dragged me out. I guarantee that lifeguards are not properly trained to keep kids and teenagers from 6 ft of each other nor will they enforce it. Just keep them closed.
    Spring Man is gonna be my new main alongside Banjo.
    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    Something about what you said sounds so familiar, L link2702 but I can't put my finger on it
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    Just watch it be Ribbon Girl, though I see her as an alt.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    She and Springtron should both be alts for Spring Man. There could be 3 for Spring Man, 3 for Ribbon Girl and 2 for Springtron. I know it doesn't sound fair that Springtron only gets 2 while Spring Man and Ribbon Girl each get 3 but he's not as important to ARMS as Spring Man and Ribbon Girl are so he shouldn't have as many alts as them anyway.
    If Rex & Pyra/Mythra are in Vol. 2, they should be a two in one character like Ice Climbers except Pyra and Mythra use their powers to increase Rex's attack, defense and speed and if he gets separated from them, he'll lose their power and he won't be able to do certain attacks.
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    I kinda see it like Pokemon Trainer tho.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    If they were like Pokémon Trainer, Pyra/Mythra wouldn't be able to run around huge stages with Rex and he has to stay near them in order to do certain attacks and receive their power.
    What's the point of change if the change isn't beneficial?
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