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  • Conker should be in either Vol. 2 or Smash 6. Banjo got in so Conker can too.
    Shroob
    Shroob
    To be frank, I love Conker but wouldn't want him in over bigger Microsoft characters like Master Chief or Steve. Banjo worked like he did because he was a Smash darling, a character that has been wanted for about 15 years now. I personally love Conker, but his fanbase is incredibly small, and to transition Conker into Smash, you have to remove a lot of the fun stuff that makes Conker Conker(All the crass humor and vulgarity).
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    BFD only came out in Japan through Live and Reloaded, I doubt he'd have much of a legacy over there.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    He hasn't had much fan support though, since BK got the lion's share. Maybe next time.
    I have a cough and I had a sore throat a few days ago but I can breath fine and I don't have pneumonia or a fever. Do I have the coronavirus?
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    Deleted member
    If it's just a cough and sore throat I would guess not. Those are the kinds of things you can get from just a common bug that everyone goes through once in a while.
    Why have people given up on Spring Man? He may be an assist trophy but so is Isaac and people still hope he'll be in Vol. 2.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Yeah, I'm not about to fool myself into thinking ATs promoted in the same game are that much likelier. Especially from a game that came too early into the dev cycle of Ultimate to matter.
    Cadillac
    Cadillac
    "Character can't be both at once"
    But Chrom
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    link2702
    I’ve mentioned it before but...probably cuz folks realize arms just wasn’t popular enough, and the characters just didn’t “click” with people. So folks have made peace with the fact that the best he’ll likely get is just an AT.

    It’s nice that Nintendo tried a new ip, but not everything ends up as a splatoon or pikmin. Sometimes the new ip and its characters just don’t resonate with folks enough.

    I know i personally didn’t care for arms character designs, they looked too goofy and “clownish” which for me just made them look way too silly(and not in a good way). The names of characters also didn’t help(spring man and ribbon girl...? Really? )I’d assume many others felt the same which is why arms quickly fell into obscurity.
    Is Banjo-Kazooie Rare's flagship series?
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    link2702
    it's pretty much their only notable series left. Rare is dead essentially. Some might argue conker is up there too, but conker isn't as iconic as the Bear and Bird.

    They're like sonic the hedgehog for sega.....just....not really being used at all as opposed to being milked like a cow.

    Of course since they haven't been milked dry like sonic, most fans at least still hold them in a positive view(not counting nuts and bolts...)....
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    It's kinda like if Sega dropped absolutely everything, mascot included, and just focused on Phantasy Star Online 2. That's how Rare is right now with Sea of Thieves.
    The Jungle Japes stage is supposed to be from Donkey Kong 64. Really? The Smash version of Jungle Japes looks nothing like the Jungle Japes in DK64. Jungle Japes is supposed to have a blue sky, some hills and a lake. It has no sunset, raging river or any cabins.
    Two years ago Kosuke Yabuki said he was open to making a sequel to ARMS so if he began working on it two years ago then it should be ready eventually.
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    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    When did Miyamoto say that Pikmin 4 was almost done? I'm sure it was quite a while ago. I don't think it matters if it's gonna be ready eventually
    Spring Man and Rex have to be DLC in Ultimate, they just have to be. I won't accept them not being playable in Ultimate.
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    Continuing on from Wigglerman, promoting Spring Man would mean removing an entire assist trophy character, which I doubt the devs would do. And it's not like they can promote him AND keep the assist trophy version; that'd be too weird, even for Smash.

    I don't know much about Rex, but he's probably unlikely as well, given how he comes from an already represented franchise and we already got the rule-breaker Byleth. Sakurai wouldn't make the same mistake twice, would he?

    Seriously, from your posts, you REALLY oughta learn some acceptance; it'll do wonders to your view on things.
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    Guynamednelson
    Eh, any newcomer will create some flavor of salt.
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    Deleted member
    I mean, in the event that they're not playable you'll pretty much have no choice but to accept it. Realistically speaking what else can you do?
    My top 10 most wanteds:

    10. Excitebiker.
    9. Captain Toad.
    8. Isaac (Golden Sun).
    7. Crash Bandicoot.
    6. Dixie Kong.
    5. Geno.
    4. Conker.
    3. Steve (Minecraft).
    2. Rex & Pyra/Mythra (Xenoblade Chronicles).
    1. Spring Man (ARMS).
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    Mamboo07
    Mamboo07
    Here's my 18 most wanted for Smash:
    -Bandana Dee (Kirby)
    -Poochy (Yoshi)
    -Shake King (Wario)
    -Zacian/Zamazenta (Pokemon)
    -Titan Dweevil (Pikmin)
    -Waluigi (Mario)
    -Bio Rex (F-Zero)
    -CDI Ganon (Zelda)
    -Octane (Rocket League)
    -Heavy (Team Fortress)
    -Amaterasu (Okami)
    -Earthworm Jim (Earthworm Jim)
    -Crash (Crash Bandicoot)
    -Nergigante (Monster Hunter)
    -Vivi (Final Fantasy)
    -Dr. Eggman (Sonic)
    -Lincoln Loud (The Loud House)
    -Godzilla (Godzilla)
    Banjo could have been an ad for the Rare Replay Switch port. A trailer for it could have been shown right after Banjo's Smash trailer.
    Banjo is very polite and respectful for a bear.
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    Deleted member
    Because he's not a polar bear
    Why are people so annoyed by Geno supporters? He's a very popular request so of course people won't stop talking about him.
    Mamboo07
    Mamboo07
    Don't know.
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    Deleted member
    It's mostly their cult-like behavior. Don't blame the character, blame the people.
    Mamboo07
    Mamboo07
    Here's why I think:
    -An important character from the Mario universe is missing, that's Geno.
    -Square Enix is neglecting one of their most popular characters, that being Geno.
    -Spirits do not de-confirm characters, our proof is Geno.
    -Anything new discovered within the game itself, must mean something for Geno.
    -Somebody who either has a high failure rate or has never leaked anything before says Geno is in Smash, we believe it.
    -Sakurai once said he also liked Geno, means he's going to be put in the game no matter what.
    -Geno's Mii Costume isn't in Ultimate yet, because Geno himself is going to be in the game.
    They try to find anything and everything to justify why he warrants a smash roster spot.
    5 months is long enough. It's time for a new Nintendo direct.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Just give it time, the current Direct rumor for this month isn't dead yet (two weeks left).

    I never thought I would say this, but it all depends on Animal Crossing getting a direct first, since the rumor says two directs...
    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    How about 5 more months? I'm quite curious to see how much people suffer XD
    People say Banjo only appeals to Smash fans and doesn't appeal to any audiences who've never played Smash before but that isn't true. Banjo appeals to XBOX One users who play Rare Replay.
    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    I mean, I'm sure at least a few say that but I am sure a lot of people would disagree with that train of thought as well. Also you forgot to mention those who've played on the N64.
    Geno Flash could be Geno's Final Smash but here's an even better idea for his Final Smash, what if Geno, Mallow, Mario, Peach and Bowser all gang up and attack the victims?
    You have to love how Sakurai replicated New Donk City Hall and Great Pleteau Tower down to the smallest detail. They look exactly like they do in their original games.
    Remakes of games are always inferior to the originals so I'm not expecting BFBB Rehydrated to be exactly as good as the original BFBB.
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    Deleted member
    I would think it depends on the remake personally. You have remakes that are better the original like Mega Man Powered Up, remakes that are just as good like Mega Man Maverick Hunter X, and remakes that aren't as good as the original like Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland.
    Lamperouge
    Lamperouge
    @psb123 That last one is a rather interesting take.

    What is it about the original Kirby's Adventure that you prefer over the GBA remake?
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    Deleted member
    Lamperouge Lamperouge Almost entirely minor things I will admit. I just prefer the graphics and charm that the NES original has over those of the GBA remake.
    It's amazing how many people hate Banjo. I thought he was a popular request.
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    Wyoming
    Wyoming
    spoiler: the smash community is vast. you will see differing opinions and incorrect information being thrown around
    GolisoPower
    GolisoPower
    Like Wyoming said.

    Think about how much bigger the Smash fanbase got with the addition of every franchise up to this point. The Smash Bros fanbase at this point is a singularity that’s continuously growing. And that means more conflicting opinions, more false info and just overall more toxicity. Those are unavoidable to varying degrees based on franchise, but you get the idea.

    I’m not saying that you can’t advocate for other characters like Sora, Master Chief, Crash, or whoever is your most wanted, though, support whoever the hell you want, man.

    That being said, it’s saddening to hear that people out there hate Banjo, saying nobody wanted him with blatant disregard to the celebrations for their reveal.
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    Deleted member
    I'm telling you. Not even BK is the purest of newcomers.

    Also, can it be considered a sin to disregard Kazooie?
    If Spring Man was DLC, that would help ARMS sell better and convince more people to start playing it again.
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    link2702
    arms just wasn't appealing to most folks. it's name wasn't catchy, it's characters, while certainly "distinct" and original, looked too goofy and many were put off by them(probably cuz so many look like literal clowns). Its gameplay also just didn't hook people much.

    Like has been said....arms really was doomed from the start. Nintendo was hoping they'd have another splatoon moment with Arms. It just didn't happen. I'm sure they'll eventually create some other IP that will hook folks like splatoon did, but arms ain't it.
    Inkling Man
    Inkling Man
    ARMS may not be Splatoon levels of popular but 2 million sales is still very impressive for a new IP and the game is still slowly but surely selling, also ARMS has a small but very dedicated fanbase. Plus the people who bought ARMS liked it, they just got tired of it. Plenty of people would like ARMS to get a sequel and to see Spring Man in Smash.
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    Deleted member
    That's literally one of the reasons people didn't like Byleth. Nintendo decided to try and readvertise already bad advertisement. Just make something people want
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    Why do DLC characters always get announced around the same time a new game of theirs gets either announced or reminded of?

    - Ryu joined Smash 4 the day before a new trailer for Street Fighter V was shown.
    - Cloud was announced for Smash 4 just months after FF7 Remake was announced.
    - Joker was announced just a month before Persona 5 Royal was announced.
    - Hero was announced right before a new trailer for the DQ11 Switch port was shown.
    - Terry was announced just about a month after KoF 15 was announced.
    - Byleth's trailer and the Cindered Shadows DLC trailer were shown on the exact same day and around the same time.
    Should they make an animated series about DK, Diddy and K. Rool living together and Banjo & Kazooie visiting them?
    If Spring Man is Vol. 2 DLC, that will help ARMS sell better and convince more people to play it so hopefully he'll join.
    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    It's too late for Arms unless they make a sequel. The first one was very lacking anyway. Plus he is an Assist Trophy there are far more worthy Trophies to be promoted
    StarBot
    StarBot
    MajoraMoon MajoraMoon The whole "far more worthy" point you made is inherently why there won't be any promotions in general

    To one person, Dr.Wally or Krystal are more worthy then Shadow or Shovel Knight
    MajoraMoon
    MajoraMoon
    Good point. However, can't you say the same with newcomers in general? Like "Dante is more worthy than Byleth" or "Geno should be in smash not Shantae."
    If we had to cut a few FE reps, who should we cut? The ones we absolutely need to keep the most are Marth, Ike and Chrom but we could also add Byleth since Three Houses will outsell Fates and it will become the most popular FE game on a Nintendo platform.
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    Deleted member
    Roy unless his game gets a remake, maybe Corrin since his game has mixed reception. I'd get rid of the Marth clones first since it's a it redundant.
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