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Kofu
Kofu
Got greedy there :c
Luco
Luco
Oh yeah, I'm not sure if Duck Hunt is legal in your parts, but if you're going up against a Ness, pick it if they don't ban it 100% of the time.

Ness' AD vulnerability is increased by 3 frames if he has no Z-axis to work with!
Kofu
Kofu
Good to know, since AFAIK the best player in my state is a Ness main (his tag is BestNess, lol)

These matches are getting closer as long as I don't SD. Oil Panic missing by a hair made me cry a little.
Luco
Luco
Hahaha yepyep. Having a lot of fun here! Let me know if you'd like to get some Lucas exp too. :D

And I have heard of BestNess! I've looked through all the PRs so I usually know a few names from most places. ^_^
Kofu
Kofu
Sure. I'll do a few more Game & Watch/Ness matches. Got a little trigger happy there, I get nervous because of the kill throw.
Kofu
Kofu
gr8 match m8

I like Umbra Clock Tower, but I swear it makes Wi-Fi lag worse than usual. You can switch to Lucas whenever you wish~
Luco
Luco
All good, I'll switch now :D
Kofu
Kofu
I really did like that last match though! It was just amusing how it ended.

also what
Luco
Luco
Oh yeah, Usmash has invincibility frames 1-4, the same as a PS window. I don't think I meant to use it then, but it comes in handy sometimes hahahaha >_>
Kofu
Kofu
was not aware of that.
Kofu
Kofu
I knew PK Freeze's lag was low but not THAT low. Yikes.
Luco
Luco
I wasn't actually sure if that would work, but that's probably good to know! :O
Kofu
Kofu
Oil Panic is a super-high risk, super-high reward move, but I can't help think that it should be a little less risky. There's 72 frames after collecting levels one and two, which is ample time for a punish (even if the first 24 frames are invincible). Heck, Zelda can run across the stage to punish a bucketed Din's Fire.
Kofu
Kofu
Unless you manage to fill the whole thing in one go, which is probably the best change for G&W going into Smash 4. :>
Luco
Luco
Sometimes I need to not PK Freeze. >_>

Okay last couple!
Kofu
Kofu
Getting kind of laggy. One more?
Luco
Luco
Alright, all of those were lovely. Your G&W is so much fun to play against with both of my mains, USMASH CATCHES EVERYTHING FOR REASONS I DON'T UNDERSTAND but it was fun anyway! :D
Kofu
Kofu
For sure. The Ness/G&W matchup is probably close to even, still not sure whose side it's on (I'm feeling Ness, actually). Lucas is a little better, probably because he has to rely on typically riskier actions.

Anything you feel I should work on?
Luco
Luco
Hmm, I noticed it more as Ness and less as Lucas but there were specific times in that MU where you went for the grab and at other times I felt very safe in shield. Also the neutral-B edge-guards didn't work so well against Ness I feel, but maybe it was just those circumstances in particular.
Kofu
Kofu
Thanks for the advice. I don't always know when to go for grabs and probably (well, almost certainly) use dash attack too much. It's a good move but his grab can often yield greater reward.

I feel like there's a place for Chef in edgeguarding but I haven't quite figured out what it is yet. Probably not much against the Mother boys and their loopy double jumps.
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