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I'm conflicted on whether I should be happy for you for getting to top 32 or upset that you took out aMSa with the MU experience I gave you.

:3 Both

You and aMSa better watch out. New ninja frog in town.

Oooh my. So you decided to go for the frog after all?

after labbing the Mario, Luigi, and Ness matchups, decided that Greninja was the best choice to beat them all. Rosalina seems to work too, but being floaty makes her more susceptible to Luigi's Cyclone stuff, so Greninja won out in the end.

Let's see what I can innovate with his neutral game, looks like it's at least stronger than ZSS'

Oh yeah I forgot about floaties being so vulnerable to cyclone, that's annoying. I dunno how Greninja's neutral really is compared to other characters, but well, hope you like playing him.

f9 dash grab with huge range and low endlag
f9 dash attack for mixups
f3 jab with more range than Falco's
top 5 airspeed, walk speed, run speed

safe d-tilt, f-tilt, f-air, shurikens

pretty great neutral I'd say.

Big problem with Greninja is disadvantage. fastest aerial is f5 b-air, and you face toward opponents when hit, not away. n-air is too slow. You land into an up-tilt chain and just lose most of your stock. Ouch.

But leaving that alone, share your kill setups with me!

Up-Tilt chains are the worst part of playing Greninja. Disadvantage doesn't feel that bad to me though, I don't get juggled very often if I make smart use of Hydro Pump.

As for kill setups... I'll send you a PM for convenience.