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  • GSP matters, no question. Without it, you're trash.
    FFAs are FFAS, NOT doubles!

    Seriously, I wonder if players KNOW they're being ***wipes and are PRUPOSEFULLY acting as such.

    I don't care anymore, these players will get NO kindness from me, and shouldn't in general.
    Petition to change Isabelle's Fsmash to have only 1 active frame.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    1. Where did the random reference to Christianity come from?
    2. There is something wrong with your actions. Get some help instead of pretending you're always right. I care about you just like I do anyone else on the site, so please get some help.
    Spongeboob
    Spongeboob
    I'll sign it only if her Fsmash can also cancel into itself.
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    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    Last I checked, the Golden Rule states "Love your neighbor as you love yourself."

    Not "Love your neighbor as you love yourself and expect to be rewarded by them for it."

    If they want to be scummy then that's their problem. You choosing to sink to their level and be so selfish over it is your problem that you could easily solve by just NOT playing Smash Ultimate, as it is clearly doing nothing to help you other than make you needlessly angry. Please, for your own sake, play another game.

    If you're only being nice to others just because you want something out of it and not because you want to be nice, then you're just being selfish and disingenuous.

    You yourself are certainly giving them plenty of power within that virtual space to seethe so much over it.
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    Give me an example of the big, slow, and deadly archetype being objectively viable in a fighting game.
    Ridley64
    Ridley64
    Bowser? He's big, slow when walking, and deadly.
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    bananapalmtree
    oh no 15 characters in this game aren't viable boo hoo
    Spongeboob
    Spongeboob
    Geras in Mortal Kombat 11. He's big, slower than molasses, and you're in for one helluva beating if he gets close to you. King Dedede in Super Smash Bros. Brawl also fits this description.
    Banned from online again, and as always, through absolutely no fault of my own.

    Gamers are, without exception, turning me into a full-blown sociopath.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    How in the world do you manage to even get banned.
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    I wouldn't really blame gamers for something that's the fault of game DESIGNERS.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    You’re probably tied off everybody on this site telling you to take a break from this game, but if you’re seriously thinking like this, you actually need to stop playing this game immediately
    If it were up to me, online or offline, Ness would be banned in doubles. I don't condone broken degeneracy or the ****** people who play such broken characters.

    LTG put it best: "I don't believe in people who take shortcuts while I have to do all the work."
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    Or how about just play Project M where Ness has an actual skill ceiling and challenging his options is nowhere near as frustrating or one-sided? You shouldn't be blaming the players for playing their preferred characters when it's the fault of the game designers that Ness is the way he is in the first place.
    Ridley64
    Ridley64
    Some people can't play Project M. I only have Ultimate and Brawl.
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    If you have Brawl, you should be able to play PM.
    I wish Ultimate would add the option to leave an FFA match you lost without penalty. There's no reason I should sit through a match I shouldn't have lost in the first place.
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    No. I said I want to leave an FFA after being the first to lose all my stocks to avoid having to sit through the rest of the match and not get punished for it.

    Plus, I want there to be no removal of GSP gain just because someone I beat ragequits at the last second.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    "There's no reason I should sit through a match I shouldn't have lost in the first place."
    And I'll just leave it at that.
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    If the Free For All was on Stock, then I'd blame whomever set it up like that. Free For All on stock is awful because it just rewards camping while everyone else fights. I win alot of FFA like that. Free For All should be set to Time because then you can't just win by camping. I explain this myself to all my college buddies and yet they continue to insist on playing FFA on stock so people that die sooner don't get to play as much and I end up winning by camping. Stock FFA is not pleasant for anyone.
    "Geno is a powerhouse in Smash speculation"

    I'm gonna say it: Geno in Smash sounds too much like a pipe dream, mainly because he's a Square creation, and there's a reason why they had Final Fantasy have the least amount of representation of the playable franchises besides the Robotic Operating Buddy.
    "Just don't get mad" is one of the most elitist, ignorant, and insensitive pieces of "advice" ever regarding tilt.
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    "Find methods to be less mad." is probably much more useful advice.

    In my case, I know Smash Ultimate is just going to frustrate me to no end, so I just don't play it to avoid that unnecessary anger and frustration and just play Project M instead as that game makes me marginally less angry.
    Tyr0nium
    Ultimate really needs to check if a player knows how to share stock. There are so many people who don't, even when their partner hasn't died one.

    If you don't know how to share stock, it's A+B. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be allowed to play Smash in general.
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    StoicPhantom
    I actually didn't know how to either and just mashed until I took one. Where do they even mention this? In the manual?
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    As far as I know, this is something Nintendo never mentions, which is bad, because share stock feels like a really important mechanic.
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    StoicPhantom
    That is pretty important.
    A wise man once said: "People aren't themselves when they come off quickplay".
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    Two weeks without playing online and I'm far less angry imao.
    You know how Snake's powerful fsmash is frame 41 and almost no one gets hit by it?

    Ganondorf's fsmash is frame 29, which is WAY too fast for how deadly it is. It's broken
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    I AM NOT TRASH.
    link2702
    link2702
    i saw some of your comments on nerf_0's channel soon as you joined.

    First thing you did was literally complain about everything when you lost and/or got punished. By virtually all characters

    That's your issue right there. You are entirely incapable of handling a lose against anyone and any character. Fix it. unitl you accept that losing just part of the learning process of getting better, you'll never get better.
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    I don't like complaining, but unfortunately, it's my easiest, most comfortable coping mechanism after a loss. There's no risk of feeling worse about myself unlike saying "I lost, but that's fine; I can get better." Because that would sound like I'm lying to myself.
    Someone told me they have more fun playing their flawed, highly exploitable mid-low tier character instead of an objectively good character simply because they're a flawed, highly exploitable mid-low tier character.

    I can't vibe with this. It makes no sense to me. Why?
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Sometimes certain parts of a character is just much more fun to them, because they don't find winning to be everything as they should. I mained K. Rool for the longest time because I loved his offstage game, his speed, and because I just adored everything about his visual design. I've since moved on to Bowser since he's a better fit for me in terms of movement and moveset and is just better overall, but I still keep Rool around for how much fun it is.
    Think about it this way: if Smash doesn't make very much money for the people who do make a career out of it, and they could make thousands more by playing Overwatch or Fortnite, why don't they just switch to those and leave Smash behind? Cuz it's fun. Not to say those other games aren't though.
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    Wario is Smash Ultimate is not satisfying for me to play despite him being my best character and first choice. It's frustrating. Even though he's good, it's mostly because of the few Waft combos. Everything else is almost unusable from even the most basic Smash character tools like jab and Smash attacks and he only has one usable throw in UThrow. Half his moveset doesn't work.

    As a result, I MUCH prefer playing Wario in Project M where I have way more combo potential, movement options and and a moveset that actually works.

    If he wants to play a good character that's flawed, he can always play Wario.
    I'm of the belief that losing makes you weak, and that's why I'm slow to admit defeat.
    Perkilator
    Perkilator
    Losing should be an opportunity to mak yourself stronger. Any time I ever felt weak after failing, I simply improved instead of admitting defeat.

    Losing may make you feel weak, but living in that mindset doesn’t help you improve at all. You’re just gonna make things worse for yourself if you keep thinking you can only be happy if you win everything. Winning is what I strive to do, but I use my losses as a stepping stone to do better.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    You can't get stronger without knowing your weaknesses and you can't really figure out your weaknesses unless you lose matches. The road to success always starts off with failure. You can't learn how to climb without falling.
    GolisoPower
    GolisoPower
    I know it feels normal to feel bad about yourself over failure. Trust me, I've had these moments myself. But there's the fact that you can learn from this loss. You know how people say, "you won the battle, but not the war?" Well, here's the thing: you can lose a battle, but learn from each loss and you're likely to win the war. Why else do you think fighting game tournaments have a 3-win goal? So what if you lose one match against your opponent there? Doesn't mean it's over.
    I've had people tell me I'm no fun to play in Smash just because I say I suck.

    1) I'm being honest.
    2) You're beating me. How are you not having fun?
    SSGuy
    SSGuy
    I'm sorry you had this kind of experience. I would either find new people to play with that won't insult you as such or look into asking them if they can help you improve. Who do you play as/what kind of rules?
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    I say this as a DK main and even a Pokemon Trainer main. I play 1v1s. I say I suck if I either lose to an objectively bad character/character whom the odds in a matchup are against, or I go on a losing streak.
    SSGuy
    SSGuy
    If you find yourself on a losing streak, there is no shame in taking a break. Taking a break is probably one of the most difficult things to do when feeling frustrated or when you aren't winning. One thing you could look into doing is save your replays and then share them with a group/discord for Donkey Kong or Pokemon Trainer. There they can give you some advice to take into consideration and use to move forward with.
    True or false: If you can't beat Smash Ganondorf, you suck.
    Banned again for an hour this time. Ultimate really needs to add the option of setting GSP restrictions so I stop losing to smug show offs.

    And God, the fact that you can get banned in the first place is super dumb.
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    That would mean solidifying the loss. I don't condone losing bad games.

    And excuse me, Mr. Insensitive. Taking an L is MAD hard for me. My self-worth is that low.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    There's no such thing as a bad game. If you're losing to "smug show offs" and "tryhards" then that means they're the better player. They're not a bully, they just want to win at the fighting game they paid 60 bucks for. Don't take it personally.

    And if that's the case, losing at a game where everyone loses, is hard for you, you should probably get some help.
    Goomboi
    Goomboi
    Think this way you can only win or learn.
    All you smug ***** need to stop maining Jigglypuff and play someone FAIR and who won't stop people from playing Smash.
    Goomboi
    Goomboi
    You that one guy everyone talks about on smash ladder aren't you?
    Wigglerman
    Wigglerman
    Yeah, how dare you main a character who is bottom 7! Those Puff players. Tier riding jerks.
    Banned for 30 mins.

    Had Bowser been nerfed, this wouldn't happen. Now I have nothing to do, thanks to tryharding bullies.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Bowser got nerfed? I had no idea.
    Edit: Oh, read it wrong. I guess that just makes me more confused-Bowser didn't really need changes in the first place.
    Goomboi
    Goomboi
    Yup, once you learn the MU its pretty easy to deal with.
    Anyone who says Meta Knight isn't top tier in Ultimate is deluding themselves.
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    Wigglerman
    Wigglerman
    I wouldn't say he is top because his sword barely hits anything. He gets out poked by a lot of the other top tiers or just out framed. His shuttle loop combo from Smash 4 is barely existent making kill confirms difficult. He's also light so dies super easy. He's possibly high but he isn't top. Not when the gate keepers are characters like Palu, Joker and Pikachu just to name a few, who just roll over Meta Knight. I'd be happy to be proven wrong with results though.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    Like I said, I really don't give a **** about the tier list. But boi does it put a stupid smile on my face to know that my lady Palutena is in the toppy tops of the top tier in Ultimate. 😃:awesome:
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    bananapalmtree
    lmao this is pure gold
    Would you believe that Discord is telling me I hate Ultimate and should stop playing it just because I hate losing?

    If I hated Ultimate, I would've sold it last year. Losing sucks, but the concept of Smash is too much fun to quit. Besides, I'll get over this eventually.

    I'm not quitting, especially not on the eve of Steve.
    Tyr0nium
    Tyr0nium
    Yes
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    bananapalmtree
    you were being an asshole to me and complained about characters every day you complained about ganon puff you complained about my wolf you blamed your character that's more then just hating to lose that's straight up hating the game if you hate every character in the game you prolly hate the game
    People who use filler words need to not or I'm not gonna vibe with them. That's the main reason I left the server. Maybe then, I won't get so easily angered.
    I had to leave yet ANOTHER Smash server today. Not because it wasn't helpful, it was, but because, frankly, people are annoying.
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    JDCabrera
    JDCabrera
    Can relate.

    Had to leave a gaming speculation server some weeks ago because half the people there mocked me for being a Sakura Wars fan and from Spain.
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    That's nowhere near similar to why I left. I left because too many people talk in a way I can't stand. I can't tolerate that.
    JDCabrera
    JDCabrera
    That's a fair reason to leave a server too.
    How good a player is comes down to two things: their skill and their win rate. Even if one far outweighs the other, you're not a good player.

    You could be top-level, but if you win as many times as a rare skin pops out of a loot box, that **** won't matter. Conversely, if you don't have the skill to back up your vault full of victories, that doesn't make you "good".
    Wigglerman
    Wigglerman
    I'd argue you can separate a person's skill and win rate from one another, frankly. I've met some players who I know are great, they've got amazing tech skill and knowledge of the game. I've seen them do some crazy things. Though in matches they do struggle to get Ws. It's this odd split of skill but lacking to use said skill in high pressure scenarios. It doesn't downplay, in my eyes, the person's skill. It just means they have a different sort of skill they need to work on. I think it'd be incorrect to tell someone who has all the makings of being a truely great player and saying "You're BAD cuz you can't WIN" yet discredit their other skills and abilities by doing so. They can be good but not yet great.

    However I would agree an inflated Win count doesn't mean your good because for all anyone knows, those wins were against toddlers who weren't even playing. ANYONE can inflate their win count.
    Goomboi
    Goomboi
    Skill and win rate should be directly related to each other and you can tell a persons skill by win rate and the other way around too. You can be a technical god but if you choke whenever you play someone else you still lack skill.
    I'm gonna guess this account was hacked this morning.

    When I couldn't log in, I thought it was because I got banned for my lashing out about the immaturity of this community when it comes to DLC last night. Seeing as that isn't the case, I'm now very paranoid about another email change happening again.
    People complaining about Steve in Smash like we don't have 4 more DLC characters coming.

    This community is the worst.
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    ...Yep. This community is the worst.

    And bruh, we still have 4 dlc characters left. Even then, Nintendo doesn't need to cater to "diehards"; they can do whatever they want, and you're just gonna have to deal with it
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    The Smash community is the greediest and most selfish community out there since Sakurai has turn this franchise into the biggest gaming crossover of all time with mutiple characters repping franchises and constantly granting fan requests.

    Because of this, people not only want one or two characters from their wishlist, but everyone from it and they don't want anyone else to be happy if a character they don't like or cares about get's in.

    Sakurai has spoiled Smash fans rotten and when he retires and gives the keys to the kingdom to someone else, they might be wishing things could go back to how they were when he was in charge. I don't think Smash is going to get better than Ultimate and like Maximilian Dood said: "We are living in the golden age of Smash.". People should be thankful for what we get because the future might not be as good and fortune.
    KingofPhantoms
    KingofPhantoms
    It's kinda hard to accurately deem a character from the single best-selling video game of all time "irrelevant" in a game that clearly celebrates gaming as a whole.

    That aside, most people will lighten up and calm down eventually, but biased complaining this early on is to be expected.
    I've decided I'm never discussing future DLC reveals with friends ever again. One just killed my hype by not sharing it, and I lashed out at him.
    DLC #7 has been confirmed to be revealed tomorrow, yet I doubt ppl have formed concrete opinions about Min Min considering what little amount of offline screentime she's gotten compared to DLC characters before her due to real life circumstances.
    The Four Horsemen of Criminally Ignored Male Protagonists.


    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    Dark Samus is a confirmed Female by the way.
    Mushroomguy12
    Mushroomguy12
    I would like to add on to the avatar part of the conversation by just noting this. Even with 8 characters in the game, when you look at the Fire Emblem roster in terms of gender ratio by their DEFAULT costumes, the ratio is 7 males to 1 female. 7 to 1. And that 1 female is an echo fighter, a character that doesn't even get her own fighter number. Even with 8 Fire Emblem characters, we don't have a single female Fire Emblem character with a unique moveset and 8 costumes. And if you're the type that stacks echos, you will literally have a CSS select screen with 0 female Fire Emblem characters. Maybe if we had Lyn, Anna, or any number of the numerous female Fire Emblem characters with a unique moveset and 8 costumes, there would be more fans of the male avatars, until then, the female avatars are literally the only opportunities people have for non echo female FE characters.

    As for the Pokemon Trainer, while this conversation doesn't apply to the SwSh trainer specifically, I've seen you complain about how underused the male Pokemon Trainer in Smash was in previous posts, so I'll go anyway. The point of the matter is that no matter how many people use the male or female alts of the Pokemon Trainer in Ultimate, the male Trainer has had the cultural advantage of being the EXCLUSIVE gender choice in an entire Smash game for the Pokemon Trainer, despite female Pokemon Trainer player characters existing in the series by Brawl. While he was cut in Smash 4, he was still exclusively viewed as male in the Smash fanbases minds because of that status in Brawl, and therefore the female Pokemon Trainer didn't even get a chance to shine until Ultimate. Of course people like playing as the newer one, and the one whose gender is far less represented in Smash in general.

    In any case, both the male FE avatars and the male Pokemon Trainers have been treated FAR better both within their own series and in Smash than one group of avatars I'd like to point to in particular, the female Dragon Quest heroines, female Erdrick and Sofia in particular, who despite having their male counterparts playable in Smash with full 3D renders, don't get acknowledged AT ALL in Smash. That's a far worse fate in my opinion.
    keleyeemoh
    keleyeemoh
    GamerZardEX GamerZardEX , I really want an answer to this. How do you defend yourself after all that you've said?
    I think "play who you like" stops working at high/top level play, because that's what determines how good a character is. Mid to Bottom tier characters have poor high level results, so then you'd have to switch to a good character solely because they're viable. Isn't how good you are with a character reliant on how much you like them though? I don't see a Pikachu main doing well at high level play when the switch to the character isn't authentic.
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    StoicPhantom
    Yeah, but how much you love competition versus how much you love the medium you engage it in (Smash) is the defining balance here. Competition nerds are the kind of people that get obsessed over minute differences between characters enough to actually force themselves to play characters they might not enjoy all that much in comparison to others.

    Whether or not "play who you like" is seen as a detriment depends on what you are ultimately looking to get out of this. If you're the type of person that believes you need to do everything you can to win, including obsessing over minor differences in what is a potentially arbitrary and ultimately nebulous metric called "tier lists", and are willing to play characters you don't care much about then yeah it might matter what character you play.

    But if you are the type that needs to have fun and/or desires to play a certain character or a certain way then honestly not so much. Your skill level relative to your opponent will always be the most important factor and the whole concept of tiers mattering relies on some theoretical scenario where your skill levels are evenly matched and there are no outside variables. What can even be defined as top level is such a small sample size that it would probably laughed out of any real study. So the whole chicken or the egg debate over whether you play top tiers because that's what top players do or top players play top tiers because that's what everyone says to do will continue to rage on.


    I would say that if you can't even get motivated to play the game without playing specific characters then play those characters. If you switch to a top tier and consistently do better then ask yourself whether you are doing better because they are easier to understand and plug up holes in your fundamentals. If the answer is no then play the top tier if that's what makes you happy.
    I've been playing Mario Kart Tour since release, but is it really "scummy"?
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    It seems more to me like the mobile department is a tad clueless on how to handle things.

    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    It took them like 5 months to add new characters and not just a whole load of alts. And yet they're still making alts. At least we get like, Nabbit, King Bob-omb, The Hammer Bro. and it's variants, Birdo, Dixie Kong, etc.
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    This now makes me pessimistic for the lineup of a possible Mario Kart 9.
    After dropping DK again, I cannot find a character who has his strengths but isn't exploit bait. Random button has given me characters COMPLETELY out of my field of "hit hard, kill fast, live long, spike hard".
    It sucks that mentality in competitive gaming is constantly brought up, but how to fix the mentality gets next to no mention; but when we do get these mentions, we get responses such as "tell yourself this" or "go out and do that".

    I know it probs doesn't make much sense, but exercising, going out in the sun, taking a seasonal break, and meditating have not worked to even dampen the urge to get very negative after a losing streak. I'm all out of free options.
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    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    I actually did clean my room before playing some friendlies, and I didn't get too mad about the losing streak afterwards.
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    Venus of the Desert Bloom
    I find a clean place to be helpful in reducing stress and tension. That’s why I always make sure a room and workspace is clean when I do stuff that stresses me out. I’m glad that sort of helped :tomnook:
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    StoicPhantom
    I think it's more that how to "fix" a mentality is more personal and not something anyone can really replicate from person to person. Getting mad at losing isn't really avoidable if you have any sort of investment in competition but it is more about what you do with that fact. I don't get mad per se, but more frustrated if I don't like the way I lost. But that frustration usually dissipates within the hour unless I'm really frustrated at myself then it can last for a couple days.

    I think overall when people talk about mentality they're talking less about temporary feelings in the immediate aftermath and more about long term perceptions. If your frustrations are affecting your life and overall mental health outside of the game then you may need to prioritize a little better. If you don't have the discipline to conduct yourself in a healthy manner then you should probably limit or stop competing altogether. If it is affecting your self-esteem then you should find other things to anchor your feelings of self-worth in.

    Competition ultimately isn't for everyone, or even a lot of people, so it's not necessarily something you should engage in unless you truly enjoy it. As in, you shouldn't be using it as a substitute for other things like a sense of purpose in life or seeing it as a fast track to fame and fortune or something.
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