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Recent content by FamilyTeam

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    My horrid attempt at an Aerials Tier List

    A lot of people believe that. Not just Lucina mains. A lot of Marth mains believe that too. Most Top Players as well. People who use the character (or both her and Marth) extensively tend to reach that conclusion. Are all of us wrong? I don't really like arguing like this, but you don't even...
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    My horrid attempt at an Aerials Tier List

    ?... What for? Do you have anything against "Lucina believers"/me? I have better things to do with my time than get pissed off at a random list someone made. Those Touhou games are not going to1cc themselves. If it's truly an act of spite, I'm not pissed off, sorry. I only pity you for that. I...
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    My horrid attempt at an Aerials Tier List

    Erm... What's Lucina doing so much lower than Marth? What's the criteria for putting Pikachu and ZSS between them anyway? Lucina's Bair and Up Air are very strong, her Up Air is a much better combo tool than Marth's, and Lucina can actually have true Aerial>Aerial strings, which Marth basically...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Well, like I implied in my post: At least against Marcina, Neutral against Cloud is manageable while Neutral against Limit Cloud is a whole lot less manageable. I'd argue his mobility buffs are even better than the Limit Specials, because they're so strong and completely turn his game around.
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Marcina are definitely solid characters, and they do good enough against most characters so they do kind of earn a slightly higher spot like that. However, for Top Tier, their good enough really isn't good enough. I don't know how many of you remember my MU chart for them, but recently I've been...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    @Das Koopa not that I don't agree with the things you are saying in the discussion, but I really cannot help but get the feeling you are replying to a troll, or someone who really doesn't know any better and doesn't care to know. Just the content of his first message made me feel that, but then...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I discussed this subject with my mates, and I'm actually curious to see what others think: What are the roles of secondaries/backup characters in the current meta? Basically, we were joking around about characters top players were using in the past, and we noticed Dabuz's Olimar, Mr. R's Cloud...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    In case anybody's interested: ESAM finished his tier list today. I'm surprised that this time around I actually agree with a lot on him, even on a lot of very controversial opinions Sheik outside Top 5; Pikachu ahead of Marth; Mario not having fallen off as much as everyone believes he has. I...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Usually when we talk about a character's weaknesses and especially when we try to back up bold statements we have to at least defend our views on the matter. When you just come to us and say "ZSS is [bad/not good/not as good as] because of [reason x/reason y/reason z]" you might need to back up...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    Marth is not better than Zero Suit Samus not today, not yesterday, not tomorrow, not ever. I am extremely curious what would even in theory put him above her.
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    V6? But there's a V7 topic out. The only difference for Zelda is that Ven updated their chart, and if anything it's more optimistic: I think some of these are a bit... out there? But it again shows how non-standard the opinions of Zeldas can be in MUs. There's a lot that helps twist the views...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I think that was made using the MU charts of a bunch of different players. I don't know which the OP used for Zelda but I saw no shortage of complaints for the other characters, I see no reason to believe why it wouldn't be the case here. Even within communities of Zelda players it seems like...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I don't even know how many people really care, but Indeed, ESAM did not put Zelda Bottom 10, and To be completely honest, I am not going to completely disagree with that. In fact, nothing he said about her is wrong - him being biased that he fights a Zelda often or not. Perhaps the only strange...
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    What techniques should a new competitive player learn before they decide to enter tournaments??

    Advanced gameplay techniques and maneuvers, such as Perfect Pivots, moves out of Perfect Pivots, applying Dash Dances and Extended Dash Dances, character specific motions and techniques, unnecessarily elaborate and situational combos, etc. If you had to chose between training all of what I just...
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    Official 4BR Tier List V4 - Competitive Insight & Analysis

    I think you're severely underestimating how bad Marcina's disadvantage sucks. There's also how hard it is for them to create space again after their little bubble has been penetrated and they're forced to play at Point Blank. I'm really glad I'm not the only one who's noticed how Smash 4's meta...
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