Ganondorfs Missed tech Flame Choke followups list

This list is for V1.1.4.

During the 1.1.3 update Ganondorfs Flame Choke lost its blind spot so he can now Flame Choke any character regardless of how low to the ground they are.

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Flame Choke Follow ups list
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You CAN NOT follow up with these characters:







You can JAB only:



You can D-Tilt only:



You can D-Tilt and F-Tilt these characters:





You can D-Tilt ,F-Tilt, and Jab these characters:





You can D-Tilt, F-Tilt, Jab, and D-Smash:


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Reading the Opponent and Potential Punishes
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When a character is Flame Choked and they miss the tech they can do 1 of the following options: Roll towards Ganondorf, Roll away from Ganondorf, get-up attack, or no immediate action (waiting, doing nothing).


Here are some Gifs of potential follow ups:

Here's an example of a Reverse D-Smash on Ryu:


Reverse D-Smash on Roy:


Reverse F-Smash:


Reverse Up-Smash:


Backwards short hop Dair:



ALL characters can be hit if they roll towards Ganondorf and you do a Reverse D-Smash, Reverse F-Smash, Reverse Up-Smash or Backwards Short hop Dair. However for Reverse Up-Smash and Backwards Short hop Dair the spacing for some characters are different because of the distance of the roll.

What is a Reverse D-Smash, Reverse F-Smash, and Reverse Up-Smash?

After you flame choke an opponent quickly turn around and do a d-smash, f-smash, or up-smash.

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Rolling towards Ganondorf
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Simple List:
Reverse F-Smash
Reverse D-Smash
Reverse Up-Smash
Backwards Short hop Dair
Flame Choke

This the best scenario for Ganondorf. You can kill your opponent the earliest because you will be able to kill your opponent by sending them to the left, right, or top of the screen depending on what you use to punish them. Also you can start a combo off of a Backwards Short hop Dair to get them at kill percent.

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Rolling away from Ganondorf
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Simple List:
Wizard Foot
Dash Attack
Running Grab
Flame Choke
SH Fair?

This is the worst scenario for killing the opponent because what is guaranteed kills much later. One positive thing about this scenario is that Flame Choke is guaranteed on every character so you can try to condition them to do a different option for when you want to kill them earlier.
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Get up Attack
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Simple List:
F-Smash
D-air
F-air
Shield -> Grab
Flame choke

This scenario will happen a lot with people who don't even bother to try teching or from characters that don't have guaranteed follow ups. If the opponent is in kill percent dash away and then doing a pivot F-Smash is the best option this is guaranteed on ALL characters. If the opponent isn't in kill percent use either Dair to start a combo or use Flame choke.

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No immediate response
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*Needs more testing*

If the opponent doesn't tech, roll, or use get up attack immediately you can use almost any attack on them, However D-Tilt is the safest move to use because it is Guaranteed on everyone if the opponent does nothing.

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What if they Tech?
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*This section is currently being worked on information here is not conclusive yet*

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Teching towards Ganondorf
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Flame choke (All characters)


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Teching away from Ganondorf
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You cannot follow up against these 7 characters if they tech:


You can Wizard kick everyone else

You can D-tilt

You can Flame choke


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Teching in Place
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D-tilt
F-tilt
Jab
Grab

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+I will add aerial flame choke follow ups
+I will be doing research on kill percents on different stages for this list (last thing I'll do for this guide)

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UPDATES:

*Updated Notes 1.1:
Robin can not be F-Tilted
Diddy can not be Jabbed
Olimar can be hit by all 4 attacks.D
Reverse D-Smash and Reverse Up-Smash added

*Update Notes 1.2;
Reverse F-Smash follow up added
Rolling away from Ganon follow up section added (incomplete)

*Update Notes 1.3;
heavily updated with gifs and new information.

*Updated Notes 1.4; Dec, 2015
Cloud has no guaranteed follow ups
Ganondorfs grab loses its blind spot which enhances flame choke greatly

Updated Notes 1.4; Feb, 2016
Corrin and Bayonetta have no guaranteed follow ups
What if they tech? Section added