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The SSB4 Poll Lounge: The great Pokemon revision

Discussion in 'SSB4 Character Discussion' started by Shortiecanbrawl, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. Shortiecanbrawl

    Shortiecanbrawl Smash Hero

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    Yeah I've messaged him, but I got no response. I could ask Toise or Chrono, I suppose. I wanna see what them Japanese fans want.
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    Ow rearly? hahaha iyt thats ok then.....
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    Aww, Lip is all the way back in 118th place.

    Oh well, at least Mega Man is in second. That's nice to see.
  4. Shortiecanbrawl

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    I would rather have Lip than Megaman in Smash bros, if that makes you feel better.

    3rd parties are poop.
  5. Super Smash Bros. Fan

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    Butbutbut, what about Geno or Bomberman?

    But in all seriousness, it really does suck to see Lip so low on the list. I honestly would love to see a non-Dr. Mario puzzle rep enter the game and I think she would be interesting to have. Sadly, with being uncommonly requested along with being Japan-only pretty much destroy her chance of getting in.
  6. Shortiecanbrawl

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    Honestly, if it meant 2 - 4 more Nintendo characters, I would easily throw away Sonic, Snake, Bomberman, and Geno. Because that makes Toad, Krystal, Medusa, Saki, and Zoroark all more likely. All of which I would rather see than the four mentioned prior. I'm a Nintendo fan, beore anything.
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    Would you rather have Banjo-Kazooie or an extra Nintendo character?

    I'm a Nintendo fan too, always will be, but the bear and bird would come first for me before most Nintendo characters this time around, if they were possible.
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  8. Shortiecanbrawl

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    Honestly, yes. If they were NINTENDO characters, then I would rather them, but only because I have an extreme love for Gruntilda and Mumbo.
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    I'm a Nintendo fan before anything else too, but I think the uniqueness of Snake makes him a must-keep, there's no character quite like him, and there probably won't be another character like him either. That's an important thing to take into consideration imo, what can the character do that others can't, what can make him unique? Sonic also has a unique way of playing, primarily because of his speed and his ball-stuff, and even though I can't stand his games and I hate playing him I think he deserves to be in. The only 3rd party character I'd add in to complete that aspect of the roster is Mega Man, because he's such a big landmark even in Nintendo history that it's a given.

    Don't see the hype for Bomberman or Pac-Man honestly, and even less do I understand the hype for Banjo & Kazooie, but that's probably just me.

    Also, I find it pretty interesting how K. Rool and Ridley are always toe-to-toe against each other in these polls.
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  10. Gingerbread Man

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    So most people here would be okay with no third parties?

    I personally wouldn't mind but would like to keep sonic. I think the whole sega/nintendo and sonic/mario friendly rivalry thing justifies it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_&_Sonic
    Plus the last direct announced an exclusive sonic game for the wii U. So that's neat.
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    I would understand if third-parties were to go given that they are not a necessity for Smash. Beside, I would be much more upset to see Pac-Man as the only third-party newcomer anyway.

    That being said, I'd rather see third-parties return since they are truly a special part of the game if done right and not overused, especially if it gets us Mega Man.

    @Shortiecanbrawl: Could you please update how many votes for stages and veterans we have so far? If you can, you can also update the amount of bosses and Assist Trophies.
  12. FalKoopa

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    I'd prefer to have 3rd parties, but they are no deal breaker for me. I'll be fine either way.
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  13. Shortiecanbrawl

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    It is just you. Well, minus Pac-Man.



    Sure, I have today off, so I will. Hoping I hit 700 votes last night. We'll see. Gonna take it to destructiod and 1UP today.
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    ONE JUMBO UPDATE - 700 votes Addition
    Where are the votes coming from?
    480 - United States of America​
    63 - Canada​
    36 - United Kingdom​
    30 - Australia​
    11 - Netherlands (This poll I believe got around a Netherlands subreddit, weirdly enough)
    6 - Mexico​
    6 - Brazil​
    6 - France​
    5 - Sweden​
    5 - Germany​
    4 - Finland​
    4 - Turkey​
    4 - India​
    3 - Denmark​
    3 - Ireland​
    3 - Switzerland​
    3 - Spain
    2 - Italy
    2 - Norway​
    2 - Belgium​
    2 - Republic of Korea​
    1 - Portugal​
    1- Venizuela​
    1 - Argentina​
    1 - Chile​
    1 - Greece​
    1 - Japan
    1 - Jordan
    1 - Israel​
    1 - Kuwait​
    What sites are bringing in votes?
    37% - Reddit
    23% - Kwiksurveys
    16% - Smashboards
    10% - Neogaf
    3% - IGN
    1% - Other (Including: Cutstuff, Capcom Unity, Wiichat, Deviantart, Neoseeker, 4chan, Gamefaqs, Tumblr, Screw Attack, Nintendolife, Google Translator, and a few Sub Reddits)
    Veteran Votes
    1. Falcon 611
    2. Kirby 610
    3. Samus 607
    4. Donkey Kong 605
    5. Link 605
    6. Fox 603
    7. Mario 602
    8. Yoshi 600
    9. Zelda 599
    10. Luigi 595
    11. Pikachu 594
    12. Ness 586
    13. Bowser 580
    14. Ganondorf 568
    15. Pit 568
    16. Peach 563
    17. Marth 557
    18. Wario 556
    19. King Dedede 539
    20. Diddy Kong 535
    21. Falco 533
    22. Ice Climbers 533
    23. Shiek 526
    24. Meta Knight 524
    25. Mr. Game and Watch 515
    26. Sonic 513
    27. Olimar 496
    28. Zero Suit Samus 490
    29. Lucas 481
    30. Jigglypuff 464
    31. Snake 438
    32. Wolf 436
    33. Ike 428
    34. Pokemon Trainer 397
    35. ROB 393
    36. Toon Link 312
    37. Lucario 267
    (Characters highlighted in orange all scored lower than Mewtwo)
    Newcomers (Tier Ranking)
    Top Tier
    · Mewtwo 479
    · Megaman 429

    High Tier
    · Ridley 375
    · King K. Rool 365
    · Roy 340
    · Little Mac (Punch Out) 308

    Mid Tier

    · Bowser Junior 259
    · Paper Mario 251
    · Isaac (Golden Sun) 246
    · Palutena 241
    · Krystal 236
    · Waluigi 233
    · Banjo & Kazooie 226
    · Chrom 222
    · Shulk (Xenoblade) 220

    Lower Tier
    · Majora (Skull Kid) 197
    · Dixie Kong 195
    · Black Shadow 179
    · Bomberman 177
    · Samurai Goroh 176
    · 2nd Sonic Character (Tails, Shadow, Knuckles) 165
    · Ghirahim 165
    · Pac-Man 162
    · Toad 157
    · Sixth Gen Pokemon 156

    Bottom Tier
    · Doctor Mario 149
    · Lyn 149
    · Mii (Wii Series) 148
    · Dark Samus 147
    · Rayman 145
    · Super Mario RPG (Geno, Mallow) 139
    · Kingdom Hearts (Sora) 138
    · King Boo 136
    · Castlevania (Simon Belmont, Alucard, Dracula) 136
    · Lucina 133
    · Takamaru (The Mysterious Musasame Castle) 133
    · Balloon Fighter 131
    · Ace Attorney (Phoenix Write) 129
    · Kamek 128
    · Pokemon Trainer (Johto) 127
    · Bayonetta 126
    · Zoroark 125
    · Crono Trigger (Crono) 125
    · Viewtiful Joe 124
    · Toon Zelda 120
    · Saki (Sin & Punishment) 118
    · Medusa 118
    · Tom Nook (Animal Crossing 116
    · Final Fantasy (Chocobo, Black Mage, Moogle, Cloud, Lightning) 115
    · Vaati 113
    · Eevee (and Eeveelutions) 112
    · Claus (Masked Man) 112
    · Rosalina 111
    · Ashley 111
    · Pokemon Trainer (Hoenn) 109
    · Professor Layton 109
    · No More Hereos (Travis Touchdown) 108
    · Dillon (Rolling Western) 104
    · Ray MK (Custom Robo) 103
    · Shy Guy 102
    · Young Link 101

    At Least Worth a Mention Tier
    · Pokemon Trainer (Kalos) 99
    · Tales Series (Cless/Cress, Lloyd) 98
    · Baby Mario & Luigi 96
    · Wolf Link 96
    · Dark Pit 96
    · Hades 95
    · Scribblenauts (Maxwell) 93
    · Captain Syrup 92
    · Midna 92
    · Slippy 92
    · Anna 92

    Everyone Else


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  15. FalKoopa

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    Huh? Four Indian votes? That's a surprise. Afaik, one was from me and one from my brother. Who are the others? :confused:

    I SEE NO ROY ON THE POLL!!!!

    Also, Go Lyn! Go Doc! Go Paper Mario! Go Isaac!
  16. Shortiecanbrawl

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    ****ing ****.

    I'll edit. Roy and Mewtwo easily get left off on this. it's annoying.

    Fixed!

    I think it's about time I've written up something about all these results. Hmm.
  17. Dark Phazon

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    Go Villians!

    Haha i just noticed that all the chars i support/want are Villians

    Except Cranky

    Realistic:

    Ridley
    K.Rool
    Mewtwo

    Wishlist:

    Dry Bowser
    Kamek
    Skull Kid
    Cranky Kong
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    Of the first three tiers, the only character I have to say I'm surprised about is Paper Mario. Didn't expect him to be so high. I think part is due to Sticker Star, but he still has a lot of undeniable popularity. You also might not expect Bowser Jr to be so high, because he doesn't really get mentioned too much around here, but if you go elsewhere he's one of the most popular picks, so he makes sense. Oh, I guess Roy is surprising too, he's placing a few spots higher than I thought he would, which is good.
  19. Frostwraith

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    I'm still the only Portuguese voter, I see.

    Mewtwo, Ridley, Roy, K. Rool all in the Top 5? Hell yeah!
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    @Shorts
    Remove the formatting from the collapse tags (Press the rubber icon on the top left) and the multiple collapse tags mess will clear up.
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    It's disappointing to see so many of the Brawl stages topping each category. I can understand some of them, there were some good stages in Brawl, but don't people want more variety? I only voted for a handful of the Brawl stages personally.
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    I suppose that's because people vote those stages on which they have a well-formed opinion already.

    Along with the new stages, I actually voted for all stages in all 3 smash games except for 75m, Rumble Falls and New Pork City.
  23. Shortiecanbrawl

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    Fixed. And yeah, Junior is actually really popular outside of this site. Personally, I love the idea of him playable.
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    Shy Guy 102
    Young Link 101

    LMAO
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    Lip's ranking just gets increasingly more depressing.

    Oh well. Can't say I'm surprised at this list at all, aside from how low Pac-Man is on the tier rankings, since Namco is working on the game.
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    Bowser Jr. seems popular even here, just to a lesser extent, since we're also pretty much the only place requesting Toad as well.

    A possible explanation for returning stages being almost universally ranked higher than new ones is that the poll lists returning stages at the top of each series' list of options. Since a lot of people only care about voting for characters at this point, but want to finish the poll, they may just click the first option they see to rush through as quickly as possible. If a future poll gets made, it would be interesting to place all returning stages at the bottom instead to see if the results change.
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    I'm sure Diddy Kong isn't though.

    Voted Mewtwo, for reasons I don't even need to explain. He's probably the most likely character to be in Smash 4, even beating out K. Rool and Ridley, and he's just awesome. May be the one "new" character who will make me question whether or not to keep maining Wolf along with Fox and Yoshi.
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    Well Its Mewtwo what can i say...hes too sick... Mewtwo Badass !.jpg
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    Well none of the japan only characters are too popular on the polls.

    Takumaru is the only exception, but he's about to be brought to the virtual console so I wouldn't count that... claus being decent... the rest are all in the bottom section. (unless I missed some while looking)

    Makes me sad that Kumatora is being beaten out on the polls by Poo.
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    And he's not even that high. He's only requested because people like the idea of him. 99% of the people who voted for him have never played through the game he originates from.
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    So Shortie, would you be fine with me bringing the poll to YouTube? That site has a big Smash 4 community and I think we can nab quite a few votes from there. I'll also try to get some relatively well-known speculators on that site to inform people of the poll.
    It's pretty obvious that we have no Pit of Smash 4 at this point because popularity isn't going to contribute to anyone's inclusion for retros. Even in Takamaru's home land, he's uncommonly requested.

    That's why I think Takamaru is going to end up as our "surprise" reveal, even if he seems obvious to most of us.
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    Chances are the Mario characters to skyrocket if that happens. I'm not against it, at least they vote seriously, but only a few people there (from my experience) are actually decent speculators.
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    I could help with that too. I'm fairly well known around those parts.
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    who the hell is venus.... man all these characters....
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    A user.
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    Yeah I don't care, you can take it there if you like. The only reason I don't wanna go to 4chan is because they'll pull some stupid **** like "Lets all not vote for Mario". BUT YEAH, take it where you like.
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    Kinda sad (although not surprising) that Layton is so low in that list but ah well. I suppose characters like him have better hope with their creators approaching Sakurai for their character's to be in the game than mainly rely on large fan demand I guess... :/
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    Layton is one of the few third party characters I believe would fit in exactly with the Nintendo characters. Same with Geno and Bomberman
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    I think Layton is like pretty much a shoe-in imo.
    #RealTalk
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    ^^^ I still think Mega Man easily fits in the best. He just looks, feels, and plays like a truly classic Nintendo character.

    I was ridiculously liberal with my choices, but here I go...

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