Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[yani]

Those are awesome! I really like the red one.

 

[Deleted member]

I love how most reference other colors he's been.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Ridley looks so much like a skeleton, a white and red/ black theme might fit him well

 

[Oasis_S]

Dry Ridley?

 

[yani]

Dark Ridley

 

[Opossum]

Those are really great, MSG! I like the green one in particular.

Also, just wondering, it looks like you made a few other recolors, too. Do you mind giving a list of who you made?

 

[bombers14]

Dark ridley

 

[MelMoe]

Those are great; nice game art references. My Ridley swaps still require some editing. My laptop is out of order at the moment, so I can't fix them right now.

 

[Mypantisgone]

Still less thin than a top model

 

[Pyra]

I love the Black one. I want Ridley in now JUST for a hope of a black recolor.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Stumbled upon this place again when I was looking at some of my old archives some weeks ago and just thought I'd let it be known that I've have had my eye kept on this and a few other topics since then (Oasis, y u not let me know of this thread's existence beforehand?).. Good to see some familiar users again, as well as others I don't know of or remember.

Really love the red and black skin too, and though I doubt this would happen, it would be kinda cool if one of the recolored skins had those neon-green looking wings that you see on the Ridley statue in Nintendo Land...

And while I'm sure this has been posted elsewhere on the site, still wouldn't hurt to point out that Ridley could still use some more votes on this page/poll.

http://vgtribune.com/smash-poll-2012-quarterfinals/

See you guys around.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Yeah, that polls been posted a whole bunch of places. And damn, N's votes just shot straight into the stratosphere. At least someone caught up to Waluigi.

But anyway, the thing about that poll is that 4chan decided they would spam votes for Waluigi and write-ins for Dunsparce.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Huh, I did feel the dark side of the force was somewhere in the works when it came to the number of votes Waluigi had. Guess I wasn't too far off. N's popularity there did seem pretty random, but I guess he's not as bad as other possible Pokemon choices.

 

[Oasis_S]

Oasis, y u not let me know of this thread's existence beforehand?

You smell.

Also the shoutbox is borked for me.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I blame the shoutbox for both then.

 

[ChronoBound]

Its good to see Ridley_Prime here. He is a Ridley supporter that has been around even before Brawl was announced. I am pretty much one of the original Ridley supporters for Smash Bros. (I have had desires to see Ridley playable ever since I saw him flying in the background for Planet Zebes in Smash 64). However, at that point I did not think Ridley was a realistic prospect for Smash Bros. due to the Metroid series being on hiatus at the time, but all of that changed with Ridley being shown off in the E3 2001 Melee trailer.

In unrelated news....

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/po...to-see-in-the-next-super-smash-bros/#readmore

We have the fools at G4 saying Ridley would not work in Smash Bros. because he is too big and he would have to be shrunk down. I am pretty sure that 95% of Ridley and Metroid fans would love to have Ridley playable in Smash Bros. and have no qualm with him being shrunk down.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Being shrunk down is still an argument? You would think people would come up with something better by now.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Being shrunk down is still an argument? You would think people would come up with something better by now.

Yeah it's almost like people are oblivious to Bowser's constant size adjustments. If Bowser can be resized, Ridley is no different.

 

[DarkSouls]

Yeah it's almost like people are oblivious to Bowser's constant size adjustments. If Bowser can be resized, Ridley is no different.

But you see, Bowser is different sizes, while Ridley is always the same size!

 

[Frostwraith]

Yeah it's almost like people are oblivious to Bowser's constant size adjustments. If Bowser can be resized, Ridley is no different.

what makes a smaller Ridley look more strange for some people would be the fact that he keeps a more consistent size in the Metroid series, unlike Bowser, who in the Mario Kart series is more or less the same size as DK, the same happening in SSB, but in other games, like Super Mario 64, he is quite big, not to mention Bowser's colossal size in Super Mario Sunshine.

the fact that he battled more on ground in his battle in Metroid: Other M helps his chances for SSB4. I'd like to see him, but the size issue is quite notable.

Olimar doesn't look wierd as his size in Brawl, because it has to do with his relative size to the camera. from the camera's prespective, Olimar in Pikmin and in Brawl has the same size. this cannot be applied to Ridley. even Pikachu and Charizard don't seem off, because of the same reason as Olimar. this can be a little confusing to explain, but I hope you get the idea.

while Ridley being shrunk for Smash would look weird for some people, that does NOT stop him from being in a Smash Bros. game as a playable character.

 

[JavaCroc]

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/po...to-see-in-the-next-super-smash-bros/#readmore

We have the fools at G4 saying Ridley would not work in Smash Bros. because he is too big and he would have to be shrunk down. I am pretty sure that 95% of Ridley and Metroid fans would love to have Ridley playable in Smash Bros. and have no qualm with him being shrunk down.

To be fair, they're not saying he wouldn't work, but that it wouldn't be fun for them to play as a shrunken Ridley because they want a full-size Ridley. Nevertheless, I don't see the problem with shrinking down Ridley is it means he can be playable.

 

[Deleted member]

There are size inconsistancies galore in Smash.
One more isn't going to kill people.

 

[DarkSouls]

There are size inconsistancies galore in Smash.
One more isn't going to kill people.

I'm surprised that people haven't completely lost their minds after fighting on Fourside.

"B-b-b-but skyscrapers are supposed to be bigger!"

 

[Onyx Oblivian]

YUP. IT'LL WORK. The endless debate had now been ended :]

It's not even a matter of "Re-Sizing" anymore! Just make Ridley "Classic Sized" c:

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Good reference, but the classic Ridley did look quite unusual. Anyway, I would think that the image below would be enough to settle the whole size debate.

 

[DakotaBonez]

It's just hard to imagine controlling a mindless monster.
But it's that very ruthlessness that makes me want him in SM4SH all the more.
It's just that, when ya think about it, this would be the first time controlling a character who
doesn't understand speech.
(I'm pretty sure Pokemon know what were saiying)

 

[Deleted member]

Err...not only is Ridley NOT a mindless monster (intelligent and cunning), but he has spoken before in the canon e-manga. He most likely doesn't in the games because he has only one thing in mind when we see him: Kill Samus.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Its good to see Ridley_Prime here. He is a Ridley supporter that has been around even before Brawl was announced. I am pretty much one of the original Ridley supporters for Smash Bros. (I have had desires to see Ridley playable ever since I saw him flying in the background for Planet Zebes in Smash 64). However, at that point I did not think Ridley was a realistic prospect for Smash Bros. due to the Metroid series being on hiatus at the time, but all of that changed with Ridley being shown off in the E3 2001 Melee trailer.

In unrelated news....

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/po...to-see-in-the-next-super-smash-bros/#readmore

We have the fools at G4 saying Ridley would not work in Smash Bros. because he is too big and he would have to be shrunk down. I am pretty sure that 95% of Ridley and Metroid fans would love to have Ridley playable in Smash Bros. and have no qualm with him being shrunk down.

Thanks. Been good seeing you and everyone here again too.

What that guy said in that G4 link is nothing compared to the article this other dude made earlier in lowballing Ridley. His argument basically got destroyed in the comments though, so no one need lift a finger.

http://vaztor.blogspot.com/2011/10/super-smash-bros-wii-u-meet-ridley.html

As for 95% of Metroid fans wanting to see Rids playable, I don't know. That's kind of debatable... I was surprised (in a disappointed way) for instance when I came across this thread on the Metroid Database forums, one of the biggest sites for Metroid fans everywhere.

http://metroid-database.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2298

That thread and some others made me reconsider in making an account there sadly. I knew I could easily tear their size arguments to shreds if I had joined, but decided they weren't really worth going out of my way for.

YUP. IT'LL WORK. The endless debate had now been ended :]

It's not even a matter of "Re-Sizing" anymore! Just make Ridley "Classic Sized" c:

To be fair, Zero Mission as a remake retcons practically everything about the original Metroid, which is why I don't really find it reliable in countering the size arguments used against Ridley. Otherwise we could say that even Kraid could be playable if we were to go by the NES game.

But Smash Bros isn't canon to Nintendo's universes to begin with, so it's not like they would have to go by Ridley's current canon size if they were to make him playable anyway.

Err...not only is Ridley NOT a mindless monster (intelligent and cunning), but he has spoken before in the canon e-manga. He most likely doesn't in the games because he has only one thing in mind when we see him: Kill Samus.

That, or he and the Space Pirates (as well as Dark Samus) don't appear talking to Samus in the games because the sounds they make in-game are their own Pirate/alien language, translated for the reader's benefit in the manga and comics.

I have admittedly wanted to see a talking Ridley we could understand in a future Metroid game ever since the manga, but after Other M and the throwbacks it had to the manga itself with the commonly hated Ridley scene in the geothermal power plant, I don't think that's gonna happen at this point, not even in speech bubbles.

 

[Deleted member]

Lol, I remember that blog.

I was the guy that made the walls of text in the comments!

 

[Oasis_S]

the fact that he battled more on ground in his battle in Metroid: Other M helps his chances for SSB4. I'd like to see him, but the size issue is quite notable.

I know you're not arguing against him, but that doesn't have anything to do with anything. It's so baffling to see some people say "Ridley can't be playable because he flies all the time." WE HAVE THREE EXAMPLES OF HOW SAKURAI HANDLES FLYING CHARACTERS ALREADY, ARE YOU BLIND. LOOK AT THOSE LEGS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY ARE THERE FOR.

Being obsessed with knowing heights like I am, I've made estimates (not like I'm carrying myself as an authority here, lol) that Ridley's height has been within a range of 10 feet over his appearances. So it's not that Ridley's height is consistent, it's just that he's CONSISTENTLY LARGE that throws people off. Height is a product of necessity, and Ridley has always needed to be large because he's always a boss. If he were in Smash as a playable character, then that necessity would change. He'll still be a big character, but he'll be sized appropriately relative to everyone else.


...It would be cool if they gave Ridley a victory taunt at the end of a match where he speaks, much like Mewtwo~ BUT I'M FINE WITH "SKRAWH SKRAWH" TOO.

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley voiced by Gilbert Gottfried.

DO IT NINTENDO.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Lol, I remember that blog.

I was the guy that made the walls of text in the comments!

Nice, props to you then.

And I think a simple SSBM Mewtwo-like laugh would do fine enough as a victory taunt, assuming that's what you meant Oasis.

 

[DarkSouls]

Ridley voiced by Gilbert Gottfried.

DO IT NINTENDO.

"IT'S A LIVIN'!"

"HOWYA DOIN' THERE, PAL?"

"Grrrrr... I DON'T LIKE YOU."

ALL OF MY MONEY

 

[Ridley_Prime]

I like how some are saying a playable boss mode is the only way Ridley could be playable in the Big Bosses of Smash thread, and that it'd be the only way to shut his supporters up. Would be funnily ironic though if it came down to that after all this time. :u

 

[John12346]

http://vgtribune.com/smash-poll-2012-quarterfinals/

C'mon guys, you've got some work to do! Let's see some Ridley support for Smash 4!

 

[Oasis_S]

It's not like that poll really means anything.


Being a Ridley supporter is the easiest thing in the world. EFFORTLESS.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

At least he surpassed K. Rool in votes, but of course Shulk would get one of the highest amounts now (currently the highest).

 

[Ginamudkipz]

He definately need his spot, It needs villains, and this one is cool

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I did do a mock-up of what Ridley's idle pose could look like...

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[Opossum]

That's pretty nice. By any chance, can you show him next to someone else so we can get a judgement of scale? Just wondering. I really do like it.