Smash Bros. Patch v1.0.4 Full Changes Discovered

[The Derrit]

Several people in the Smashboards community have been hard at work discovering all of the changes that have been added to Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U in patch v1.0.4. Lead by Moderator @SamuraiPanda, the community is confident that they have found nearly all changes from the patch. If you're looking to understand exactly how your character has changed since v1.0.3, you're in the right place!

Tons of characters have seen changes - read up!​

Big changes include:

• DI returns
• DACUS removed
• Shulk's everything does more damage
• Bowsercides lose you the game

Check out the full list of changes as compiled by the Smashboards community right here!
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Do you like these changes? Do you see any other changes that you want to be made in the future? Make your voice heard in the comments below!

Seeing all the changes together, The Derrit feels like this is a pretty good patch overall. Discuss with him on Twitter at @TheDerrit.

 

[Marthmario]

I mean, it's kinda strange having all the -cides not win the match, but it's something to adjust to. Also, any buffs to Shulk are good!

 

[Jaedrik]

So!

When are those Diddy nerfs? Am I right or am I right?

Thanks for the patch notes, community!
Did Dantarion help with his file dump? Did we see the code yet? Who are the forces at work behind these magical numbers?!?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

RIP Sheik and Greninja, Hellooooooo Shulk!

 

[The Real Gamer]

Great job to everyone who was involved! Would have saved us a lot of headache if Nintendo released the full patch notes when it dropped but whatever.

 

[mario123007]

I might check Smashwiki for more details of each character, and hope the ones who discuss in the thread can edit it in Smashwiki too!

 

[JayFresh]

Dk wants love too, sakurai plis T_T

 

[LIQUID12A]

shulk mains be like

 

[Loup]

It's a shame they got rid of the only worthwhile thing about SM4SH Wario.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

Y U NO DACUS?

 

[Mythra]

Shulk's everything does more damage

Everybody is feeling it now

 

[Blitzern]

IMO Nintendo should give us back DACUS but with a cool animation so its not an exploit anymore.

 

[Phaazoid]

The zss infinite removed, wario fixed both with wectoring and grab release, rush canceling fixed, there are a lot of good fixes here. I'm impressed.

 

[GOC/Olimans]

Why no nerf villager fair??

 

[SuaveChaser]

Great job on the change notes. Sucks Dacus is gone.

 

[MoosyDoosy]

Wait so Vectoring is out and Smash Bros Brawl & Melee DI is in?

 

[Losho]

I'm rather happy with these changes.

 

[Aguki90]

And Meta Knight!!

He was overnerfed as nerf that he was really weak most of the attack.

Now. Is really good!
Diddy is need nerf!

 

[NiderQueen]

All the Shulk players must be really feelin it right now. Also, Falco
"LASER
PEW PEW : While grounded Falco shoots lasers faster"

time to pew pew lol
(actually nah cause no one likes spammers)

 

[victinivcreate1]

Decent change but no DACUS really?

 

[Deleted member]

rest in piece dacus

another reminder that brawl has kicked the bucket

 

[Ryu_Ken]

Jeez, I remember going through the mess to explain Link's Fast-Falled Dair. Goes to show how little people knew of Link in Brawl, mainly due to the fact that most people mained the top-half of the tier list. Also shows why it's important to use proper grammar on the internet.

rest in piece dacus

another reminder that brawl has kicked the bucket

Wait, does that mean what I think it means?

 

[Empyrean]

Huge shoutouts to @Dantarion doing god's work.

 

[TopTierPichu]

how did they even figure any of this out?

 

[Defile]

Why would Nintendo remove DACUS? Doing so implies they don't value advanced techniques that require practice (or depth in general).

Oh wait...

 

[Mega Bidoof]

• Bowsercides lose you the game

 

[Gidy]

Why would Nintendo remove DACUS? Doing so implies they don't value advanced techniques that require practice (or depth in general).

Oh wait...

DACUS was only for some characters like how it was in Brawl.

Also, I like the update.Though I'm sad that some characters didn't get needed buffs like Doc, Wii Fit, Olimar, and Charizard. Some even got nerfs.

 

[Defile]

DACUS was only for some characters like how it was in Brawl.

Also, I like the update.Though I'm sad that some characters didn't get needed buffs like Doc, Wii Fit, Olimar, and Charizard. Some even got nerfs.

And your point is...?

 

[Gidy]

And your point is...?

It's unbalanced if some characters can and some can't.

 

[Myougi]

Big changes include:

• Bowsercides lose you the game

I mean, it's kinda strange having all the -cides not win the match, but it's something to adjust to. Also, any buffs to Shulk are good!

[video of hyes]

To clear up some info, Bowserside does not necessarily lose you the game (ie Bowser doesn't always die first).
It's actually stage dependent now. I even tweeted this info out to Smashboards and those guys retweeted it. Shame, shame.

[collapse= Smash 4 Stage differences]
Normal Stage Sudden Death:
Final Destination
Delfino Plaza
Castle Siege
Custom Stages (wont be used, but thought it would be nice to know)

Normal Stage Bowser Dies First:
Battlefield
Town and City
Skyloft
Halberd
Mushroom Kingdom U
Lylat
Town and City
Pilotwings
Wuhu Island
Wooly World
Yoshi's Island

Omega Stage Sudden Death:
Delfino Plaza
Halberd
Mario Circuit
Mario Circuit (Brawl)
Bridge of Eldin
Pyrosphere
Norfair
Port Town Aero Drive
Wooly World
Yoshi's Island
Great Cave Offensive
Orbital Gate Assault
Mario Galaxy
Palutena's Temple
Skyworld
Garden of Hope
Wii Fit Studio
Gaur Plain
75m
Wrecking Crew
Pilotwings
Wuhu Island
Wily Castle

Omega Stage Bowser Dies First:
Skyloft
Battlefield
Mushroom Kingdom U
Luigi's Mansion
Jungle Hijinks
Hyrule Temple
Lylat Cruise
Kalos Pokemon League
Onett
Coliseum
Castle Seige
Gamer
Town and City
Boxing Ring
Windy Hill Zone
[/collapse]

 

[JimmyTheCaterpillar]

*even though it makes the game better and more balanced, I choose to be super butthurt because of Dedede nerfs*

 

[MudkipUniverse]

Hooray!!!!!

more advanced techniques being taken out!!!!

great job making a competitive title!!!!!1

 

[Logsmash]

Good work community, still hoping for the day when Nintendo will quit being stubborn and just post the patch notes so we don't have to do quite so much legwork for the same information.

 

[Deleted member]

Wait, does that mean what I think it means?

yes

 

[Ragna22]

Those Shulk buffs seem to be working wonders because I've been seeing more Shulks online recently, I've been using him more myself.

 

[SmashShadow]

Bring back DACUS!

 

[Minuy600]

Yeah, I always thought that Shulk was really bad, but now, i'm kinda feeling his power.

 

[MarioMeteor]

I do feel like the buffs and nerfs were kinda schizophrenic. I mean, did Shulk really feel need 1% buffs to all of his moves? Some of Rosalina's nerfs just don't make sense. What about characters in need of buffs like Dr. Mario? Meanwhile, Diddy is still killing people at 60%.

 

[lRasha]

Yeah, I always thought that Shulk was really bad, but now, i'm kinda feeling his power.

He's feeling it too. (This is probably the first time I found the Shulk thing amusing lol)

 

[Kikaioh]

all those reds, all those reds