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...and The Ninja Frog.
greninja needs a nerf to the ground man
Sooooo much of this. Barring things like Diddy's hoo-ha, of course, but even that could've been let alone until we actually figure ourselves out.
Frame data forms the very basis of a character and it's strengths and weaknesses. Not going into it would be neglecting a crucial part of what makes Shulk as a character, especially since it's such a glaring flaw of his. So I don't think it's too competitive at all.
This is such a tired statement. I and many other players are simply passionate about the game, want to play it at a high level and want to push our characters as far as we can, but (especially with a character like Shulk) that's only going to be done if we know the ins and outs of our characters. It's not "overthinking a party game", it's analysing a game that has competitive value because of the fact that it's not built as a conventional party game. It has the worldwide appeal of a party game, but the depth of a fighting game and that's part of the appeal of Smash as a general.
LiteralGrill
This was certainly a pleasant surprise.
Except when a community is so divided over the competetive vs. casual that it makes me sick. So sick, in fact, I've made a video on the topic.This is such a tired statement. I and many other players are simply passionate about the game, want to play it at a high level and want to push our characters as far as we can, but (especially with a character like Shulk) that's only going to be done if we know the ins and outs of our characters. It's not "overthinking a party game", it's analysing a game that has competitive value because of the fact that it's not built as a conventional party game. It has the worldwide appeal of a party game, but the depth of a fighting game and that's part of the appeal of Smash as a general.
I'm not saying you can't play the game how you want. By all means go for it. I made this video to address Shulk and how he's perceived at a high/tournament level. But don't criticise how other's view the game because it doesn't correlate to how you play.
Oh and thanks a bunch for this @
Not really, sure some people are very vocal over there opinion and act like Smash can only be played as a party game or a super competitive fighter and ignore other views. But the vast majority of players respect the other sides opinion. Most of the people who play casually are fine with that, and the same goes for competitive players. It's not like the majority of the smash community actively seeks out people with different preferences just to argue with them. Also isn't calling Smash a party game on a heavy character analysis video causing a division in the first place?
Considering the original point of my original post (which is blatantly getting ignored, it seems - not that that's a bad thing), I don't think it counts as spam.
Smash is a game that has incredible depth and strategy in it. You act like playing smash competitively means it stops being fun, which is completely wrong. Playing anything competitively is fun, the thrill of competition, the excitement of triumphing over your rival, it's amazing. If you don't want to play Smash that way that's fine, but don't come in here and tell us how we're supposed to play our game and act like we're the ones causing a division.
So you feel your isolated case justifies the severity of your argument? This seems like nothing but an unfair, sweeping generalisation to me from someone with a jaded and closed minded perspective, especially considering all the good things various members of the competitive Smash community have done. Rather than saying how the community could improve (which it definitely could, we're not perfect but no community is), saying "it shouldn't exist" does nothing constructive for anyone and only demonstrates your own prejudice against a different style of play. Fun is a completely subjective statement. Your perception of fun is no right or wrong to anyone else's and as @ E Eureka said the idea of competition, striving to better oneself and delving deep into the intricacies of the game are fun for many players. I wouldn't do what I do within the Smash community if I didn't enjoy it.
No, because it's not just me that's been bullied. I've watched it happen to others, irl and online, and it makes me sick. Wipe the cheetos dust of your fingers, shave your neckbeards, and take off your fedora, because we're all Smashers. one thing that makes me particularly mad about Smashboards is the inlux of constant competitive posts on the news page when things like casual stuff (see: Amiibo wave 4 yesterday for example) while constantly promoting a competitive scene that Nintendo itself doesn't even want.
You have to be trolling. You can't throw out a ton of insults like that while claiming to be a victim.
You claim hat you have been "bullied" by the competitive smash community, but at the same time you're throwing around frivolous insults and baseless claims. Yeah there's a lot of talk about competitive Smash on Smashboards, because competitive Smash is incredibly complex and worth talking about. And if Nintendo didn't want this competitive scene then why did they make that opening for EVO Melee top 8? Or hold an invitational tournament for Smash 4? Or make a GameCube adapter for the Wii U? We're not trying to force you to do anything, so stop forcing us to play the way you want us to.
You talk alot of **** for someone preaching about how awful competitive players are. Get over yourself. News flash the "bullying" goes both ways. If you can't take it from one side then don't dish it out on yours.
