FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
whats planned for ICs? cgs, no cgs? melee style combos?
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Project M Social Thread
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Zolios
Smash Apprentice
Captain Falcon moonwalking is all I need to hear.
I was completely with you guys until I read about Meteor Canceling reduced to 5 frames.
Seriously, it's the only BAD part of Melee. Why in the world would you need to bring THAT back?
Also, Bowser can flame cancel normally in Brawl. I'm not sure why that would be a highlight.
Seriously, it's the only BAD part of Melee. Why in the world would you need to bring THAT back?
Also, Bowser can flame cancel normally in Brawl. I'm not sure why that would be a highlight.
shanus
Smash Hero
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Err, we aren't going to 5 frames, but we are reducing the duration from 25 frames.
This is what happens when I type things up too quickly.
The main highlight of the MC fix is that we hop to fix the fact that you can spam up B or up on the joystick to jump out of a meteor cancel (you cant by pressing Y or X)
6Mizu
Smash Champion
I don't relly play or like B+, but this sounds very very good. 
Maybe I'll like it eventually.
Maybe I'll like it eventually.
Foy
Smash Champion
Not to sound like a typical brawl hater but why not just play melee?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
nana is even more of a ****** and she can't share the ledge with popo (and thusly doesn't have a tether). thats my excuse. i don't even care about the CGs, i just can't go back to that dumb *****.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
And lots, and lots of other reasons. Go play Melee....if you don't remember basic things. 
Sterowent
Smash Ace
well, this is exciting, isn't it? i hope this and brawl+ can coexist. i don't understand how each will fulfill a unique role apart from one another though.
if you do include the previous characters in this, please consider the altercations that PSA authors have added to them. of course, this is your project and thus under your scrutiny as to whether they will be given the boons their authors applied, but things like roy's revamped tipper rather than wasted range like in melee seem like favorable changes, even if they break some of the balance previously in melee.
this is the chance to make a direct sequel to melee but with balance, new mechanics, new (rigorously tested) characters (like GENO, ZERO)...this is what just about everyone wanted and still wants deep down.
i'll be playing b+ and this heavily over the years. i can feel it in my bones...
if you do include the previous characters in this, please consider the altercations that PSA authors have added to them. of course, this is your project and thus under your scrutiny as to whether they will be given the boons their authors applied, but things like roy's revamped tipper rather than wasted range like in melee seem like favorable changes, even if they break some of the balance previously in melee.
this is the chance to make a direct sequel to melee but with balance, new mechanics, new (rigorously tested) characters (like GENO, ZERO)...this is what just about everyone wanted and still wants deep down.
i'll be playing b+ and this heavily over the years. i can feel it in my bones...
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
My first response: "Finally"
My response after reading OP: "Too much ****, need paper towel"
I can assume platform canceling and other platform changes will be in as well?
My response after reading OP: "Too much ****, need paper towel"
I can assume platform canceling and other platform changes will be in as well?
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Can't wait to play it.
I liked everything except these 2 things. I don't really see the point in them.
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Hella.
ThatGuyYouMightKnow
Smash Champion
Guys, I don't think PM is going to become the dumpster for new characters. D:
I'm for hard tested MELEE characters though...but we still need a way to load them INDIVIDUALLY.
Oh, and @ Shanus: I'm always here. :3
I'm for hard tested MELEE characters though...but we still need a way to load them INDIVIDUALLY.
Oh, and @ Shanus: I'm always here. :3
humble
Smash Ace
Well, L canceling allows you to halve the frame of an aerials landing lag, which is pretty useful, and jump cancelled grab allows you to grab out of a dash with standing grab, which could be very useful.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
JCG is very very useful for shiek, jiggypuff, and Luigi, off the top of my head.
RockCrock
Smash Champion
Sounds sick.
superyoshi888
Smash Lord
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GIYGAS FOR PROJECT M NOW!!!111
Still, this sounds awesome. Will you guys be returning Ganon to his Melee sexiness, but with that awesome Flame Choke tech chase? If so, I will love this forever.
ThatGuyYouMightKnow
Smash Champion
Not sure how far you want me to spoil stuffs shanus, but Ganon got plenty of good stuffs. <3
stingers
Smash Obsessed
i think adding in new characters sounds fun, i mean after all, why not? get zero in here man
Sterowent
Smash Ace
ahahah, oh man.
you're right! this isn't based off brawl at all...it's a mod of brawl+!
the irony that we're making a mod to be a true sequel from, what i consider, another mod that is a true sequel.
this is rich.
superyoshi888
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So right now, this is just fun the Melee way? So B+ is still representative of the competitive side of Smash.
So if Ganon is becoming sexier, does he keep the Thunder Stomp? I kinda like it, seeing how it's the easiest meteor smash to hit with.
So if Ganon is becoming sexier, does he keep the Thunder Stomp? I kinda like it, seeing how it's the easiest meteor smash to hit with.
So... you took Brawl+, which is already obsessively competitive, and turned it into Melee 2.0 so it would be even more competitive? I'm sure this is good, but... where's the, you know... fun?
Oh well, Imma wait for Brawl- to come out.
Don't take this as criticism, I just think that all this competitiveness is getting rather out of hand and overshadowing the "game" part of it all.
Oh well, Imma wait for Brawl- to come out.
Don't take this as criticism, I just think that all this competitiveness is getting rather out of hand and overshadowing the "game" part of it all.
Foy
Smash Champion
Be said with what happened with the transition between normal brawl and b+.
Wavedash Master
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Can L-Cancelling be done without pushing the L or R button all the way down (like Melee)?
shanus
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Unfortunately soft press detection is not built in to Brawl. Almas expressed interest in it, but its an insanely hard code.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Ugh, I could imagine. I was also thinking about light shielding but it's not even programmed into Brawl. At best, you might be able to somehow modify the shield to have a larger size in general and try to apply it from there, but I'm not even sure how you could apply it to soft press amounts if the code itself is going to be crazy.
MK26
Smash Master
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=239282&page=2
you need to step your searching game up, shanus.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
Huge props to Shanus. This is really cool. I like the visual notification on a successful l-cancel. This could be something really really really awesome. Great work I'd love to see this become incredible.
shanus
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Sorry on the minute detail there, it detects it, but not programmed as a unique button press. So we would need to read a controller input, assign it a button class, and more. I'm not the coder here, and Almas said its insanely hard, so bug him
MK26
Smash Master
well...that's soft press detection being utilized to shield
as for lightshielding...thats the hard part
as for lightshielding...thats the hard part
Brawl doesn't necessarily read soft L inputs. The Wii is capable of it. That doesn't mean Brawl does it. I believe Paprika is mistaken.
Getting Brawl to have soft L presses requires several things. It would probably be necessary to write into the game's assembly code that it needs to read the digital input from the shoulder presses. However, there is a chance that it's not possible (e.g. because of the IOSes that are used to launch the game).
Getting Brawl to have soft L presses requires several things. It would probably be necessary to write into the game's assembly code that it needs to read the digital input from the shoulder presses. However, there is a chance that it's not possible (e.g. because of the IOSes that are used to launch the game).
Eldiran
Smash Lord
My memory may be incorrect, but I believe that somewhere there was mention of a code that allowed even soft presses to trigger the shield. This wouldn't allow for light shielding, but it would make the game more responsive to shield inputs. Just thought I'd mention that such a code might be feasible, if you guys are interested in it.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
A good question for the project: Will forced fall aerials/moves be removed for Melee veteran characters (G&W's Dair, IC's Dair, etc.)?
Seikishidan Soru
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When did "competitive" and "fun" become mutually exclusive? Do you really think competitive players play games in order to bore themselves to death?
Maximoff
Smash Rookie
I would love to see Melee Peach meet Brawl Peach... The old DSmash without it being as sick as it was in Melee... A good second jump... Float Cancel, maybe? Is any of that possible... And Sheik's Fair should be exactly as it was in Melee
Kaye Cruiser
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Ever since Brawl came out and people with no idea what the word meant suddenly started seeing it and labeling it as something horrible because Brawl wasn't it.
Most likely anyways. :3
Depster
Smash Champion
A lot of people have fun being competitive...
ThatGuyYouMightKnow
Smash Champion
Wtf is fun?
Sulfur
Smash Apprentice
For nubs obv
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