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Project M 3.0 Released! (Changelog in post)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Project M, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Project M

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    Hello Smashers, 3.0's release is officially upon us!

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    THE FULL ROSTER
    Fan favorites Roy, Mewtwo, Samus, Kirby, Yoshi, Ice-Climbers and Olimar all return in top form. With this landmark update not only completing the original Brawl roster, but expanding it to a massive 41 characters, we’ve chosen to shed the “DEMO” moniker from our title. However, please be aware that this is not yet Project M’s final or “gold” release – everything is still subject to refinement for now.

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    TURBO MODE
    This new release includes "Turbo Mode," a game type in Special VS which allows any character to interrupt moves once they’ve connected with an opponent. Chain attacks together to create Turbo speed combos limited only by your imagination and dexterity. Additionally, you can also gain short spurts of Turbo Mode within normal VS play by picking up the Turbo Curry item. Play it your way: mix it in to your normal item play or have fun in the full-time Turbo Mode.

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    ALTERNATE COSTUMES & COLORS
    But that's not all! This release also includes alternate costumes and colors for various characters. Please note that the current distribution of alternate costumes is not perfectly “balanced” or “fair,” -- we have limited modeling time and limited memory space, so we’ve tried to hit some of the costumes that we think will be the most popular first, and will continue adding costumes in future releases as time and space allow. Thanks for your understanding, and enjoy the first batch of costumes.

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    AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION FOR 3-4 PLAYER FIGHTS
    There is one minor but important issue that we have to discuss for competitive play. Because the model importer that we use is in need of an upgrade – which we are currently working on – new models including Roy, Mewtwo, and all new alt costumes have a higher tendency to create gameplay lag than Brawl’s original models despite utilizing similar polygon counts. This is not an issue in singles play in most cases but in doubles more than two new player models on screen at once can potentially create noticeable lag. Again, this is something that we’re actively working on addressing, we'll have more details on the specific instances of lag for Tournament Operators to look at and make judgment calls on rules soon. We apologize for this inconvenience and hope to have this resolved in future releases. In the meantime, we have included warning icons on each costume's character portrait that has the potential to induce any amount of lag for players and TOs.

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    A CALL TO THE COMMUNITY
    Lastly, with the absolutely enormous amount of new characters, mechanics, features, costumes, and stages all added to 3.0 there will inevitably be bugs that we could not catch with our limited number of players. We need you, the community, to help us out by reporting the bugs you find on our Bug Reporting Forum. The more specific you can be about how to reproduce a given bug the faster we can fix it. As with previous releases we will likely put out a “3.0b” or similarly named patch a few weeks after release squashing as many of the community-identified bugs as possible. Thanks for your understanding and your help.

    GO GET IT!
    There are plenty of fun surprises waiting to be discovered in 3.0 that we haven't revealed yet. So, what are you waiting for? Download it now! Download link.

    Additionally, the full Changelog from Demo 2.6b -> PM 3.0 is provided here.
    Note: If a character has no changelog, that character received no changes.
    [collapse=General Character, Gameplay Mechanics, and Additions]
    - Yoshi, Ice Climbers, Samus, Kirby, and Olimar are now available
    -2 new characters join in Project M, Roy and Mewtwo
    - Shield Pushback and Health now match Melee. Some moves with shield damage from before compensated appropriately
    - Fixed a bug related to Stage Collision Detection (landing detection) that caused characters to lose height while in certain animations
    - The Sleep status duration can now be reduced by mashing
    - Wall Clings are now limited to one use per airtime
    - Maximum tether hangtime was halved
    - Forced Tether Jump upon reel-in no longer has IASA or refreshes a double jump
    - Fixed a bug with Meteor Canceling where multijump characters were unable to meteor cancel with normal jumps after they used their first jump
    - Implemented a new HUD with cleaner stock icons
    - Turbo Mode now replaces Curry Mode in Special Versus. Cancel your attacks on-hit for new combo possibilities!
    - Character AI improved across the board in various ways
    - Computer players no longer have a preference for ganging up on human players
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    [collapse=Stages]
    - The camera on all stages was sped up slightly
    - SSE Jungle was reskinned with Pikmin elements. Renamed "Distant Planet"
    - Pokémon Stadium 1 moved back to page 1
    - Added Peach's Castle to Page 2, replaces Mario Circuit
    - Added Training Stage to Page 2
    - Norfair's platforms now expand and contract further and into more positions. The main platform is larger with a new model, and the entire stage was lowered relative to the blastzones
    - Widened the side blastzones of Metal Cavern
    - Slightly raised the ceiling blastzone of Warioware
    - Raised the ceiling blastzone of the following stages: Distant Planet, Yoshi's Island, Castle Siege, Green Hill Zone, Halberd, Rumble Falls, Norfair, Skyworld, Skyloft, Lylat, Metal Cavern, and Smashville
    - Significantly raised the ceiling blastzone of Dracula's Castle
    - Numerous Aesthetic improvement to Fountain of Dreams
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    [collapse=Items]
    Bumper
    - Bumper does slightly more damage, but deals much less knockback and sends foes sideways
    - When set, Bumper sends foes at a higher angle with slightly increased knockback growth
    - Hitbox slightly smaller
    SuperSpicy Curry
    - Now activates Turbo instead of spitting Flames. Renamed "Turbo" with a new appearance
    Deku Nut
    - All hitboxes now blockable
    - Explosion has less weight knockback and slightly less knockback growth
    Soccer Ball
    - Flame hitbox is significantly weaker
    Carrier Boxes
    - Rolling hitbox has less base knockback and knockback growth
    Cracker Shot
    - Fireworks deal slightly less knockback can now be absorbed.
    Golden Hammer
    - Damage reduced to 20 from 30.
    Star Rod
    - Trajectory when hit by tossed Star Rod is higher.
    Party Ball
    - Disappears instead of exploding

    Assist Trophies and Pokemon:
    Snorlax:
    - Rising hitbox is weaker, while Body Slam hitbox is stronger
    Torchic:
    - Fire Spin loops every 16 frames instead of 10 and ending hitbox is weaker
    Knuckle Joe:
    - Vulcan/Rapid Jab's base damage was halved, SDI ability significantly higher and has reduced knockback growth with later hits being softer
    - Smack Punch and its projectile have less knockback
    Latios and Latias:
    - Wind hitboxes removed
    Weavile:
    - Stun effect removed
    - Hitbox now pops people upwards a bit and does less shield damage
    Metagross:
    - Burying hitbox removed when Metagross in on the ground already
    Meowth:
    - Pay Day damage reduced and has knockback growth
    Piplup
    - Hitbox refreshes every 8 frames instead of 7
    - SDI Multiplier significantly increased
    Issac:
    - Adjusted the Synergy angle to be 30 degrees to compensate for higher gravity and up the SDI multiplier to 1.02
    Saki:
    - Second Sword Attack now has less knockback growth and more base knockback
    - Saki's Shots are now using Raygun shot GFX
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    [collapse=Bowser]
    - Dash length very slightly shortened
    - Dash grab reverted to pre-2.6 animation and tweaked for readability. Bowser grabs slightly later, but grab range should now match animation properly
    - Up Tilt initial knockback stats increased to match Melee’s. Frame timing adjusted so that the move degrades sooner, when Bowser is swiping above his head
    - Neutral Air knockback stats reduced to be closer to Melee’s
    - Back Air’s IASA timings delayed to match Melee’s
    - Forward Air’s hitboxes restructured into a tipper format. The inner “flub” hitboxes have damage and knockback approximating Melee’s hitboxes, while the tipper hitbox has damage and comparable knockback to PM 2.5’s forward air
    - Forward air now has a claw trail that traces the hitbox arc
    - Whirling Fortress edgehog behavior changed to no longer auto-snap to ledges. Requires some finesse to fortress hog now
    - Grounded Whirling Fortress initial hitboxes further shrunk and later hitbox coverage restructured to match the animation better
    - Aerial Whirling Fortress hitboxes redone to reduce vertical coverage and slightly increase horizontal reach
    - Whirling Fortress animation has slight tweaks for polish
    - Flamebreath hitboxes redone. They now start with lower damage but gain damage as they travel, being strongest at the tip. Grounded foes are now pushed down and out of the flames
    - Aerial Flamebreath hitboxes have unaltered knockback behavior, but have the scaling damage and no longer flinch at the tip
    - Aerial Koopa Klaw has slightly less horizontal movement
    - Giga Bowser can now be damaged normally. As compensation, his moveset was improved and his Final Smash duration almost doubled
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    [collapse=Captain Falcon]
    - Side-B landing lag slightly reduced upon connecting with an opponent, now is the same for Side-B whiff or hit
    - Grounded Falcon kick endlag is slightly longer
    - Falcon Kick is now B-reversible
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    [collapse=Charizard]
    - FAir bone invincibility reduced to the duration of the active frames of the hitbox
    - Forward throw animation tweaked
    - Up B has less hangtime at the apex
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    [collapse=Diddy Kong]
    - Shield size increased
    - Jab angles and damage adjusted to better link into each other. Final jab (the kick) knockback increased
    - Dash Attack's hitboxes link more reliably and have had their sizes increased slightly. Grounded version can be interrupted earlier
    - Forward Tilt's hitbox sizes increased slightly. Forward and high versions have their damages increased slightly
    - Up Smash's hits link more reliably
    - Diddy steps more forward on the second hit of Forward Smash. The first hit's knockback and timing changed to better link into the farther-reaching second hit
    - Forward Air's base knockback increased slightly
    - Down Air's active frames activate slightly earlier
    - Down Throw base knockback lowered but has higher knockback growth. Damage redone to be a two-hit move
    - Up Throw sends up and slightly forward
    - Neutral B (Peanut Popgun): Air Dodge window activates slightly earlier
    - Side B (Monkey Flip): Tilt version now sends the same distance as the Smash version. You can now however hold back while jumping to shorten your overall distance. Attack ("A") Throw's trajectory moved inward slightly. Jump Throw knockback growth and damage increased significantly, and Diddy's jump height has been reduced
    - Up B (RocketBarrel Boost): Grounded startup reduced. Increase in damage from charging made slightly faster. Meteor hitbox more accurately reflects the blast graphic effects
    - Down B (Banana Toss): Grounded banana hits induce the trip effect and retain weight-dependent knockback. Aerial banana hit knockback slightly increased
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    [collapse=Donkey Kong]
    - Jab1 links more reliably into Jab2
    - Grounded Dash Attack Jump-Cancel removed
    - Dash Attack (ground & air) sweet/sourspot roles reversed from previously. Sweetspot now sends upward and has slightly less duration, sourspot sends outward
    - Neutral Air bone invincibility duration reduced significantly
    - Up-B travels less horizontal distance, but gains more height. SDI multipliers on grounded multi-hits reduced to be normalized
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    [collapse=Falco]
    - Shine start-up animation has been improved
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    [collapse=Fox]
    - Laser duration now matches Melee
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    [collapse=Ganondorf]
    - Forward Air's animation was polished. Active frames begin and terminate a frame earlier to better match the animation
    - Down Air's animation was polished
    - Up B start-up is slightly faster
    - When suiciding with Ganon's side B, he should always die first
    - Wizard Foot Damage increased on both ground and air kicks, knockback compensated to be the same
    - Wizard Foot is now B-reversable
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    [collapse=Ike]
    - Down Tilt IASAs slightly later
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    [collapse=Ivysaur]
    - Increased aerial drift strength and decreased aerial friction
    - Slightly decreased grounded friction
    - Fall speed slightly increased, and fastfall speed increased
    - Forward Tilt endlag increased
    - Forward Tilt back hitbox and the innermost front hitbox have increased SDI multipliers
    - Forward Tilt back final hitbox damage decreased to match earlier weak hits
    - Down Tilt's 2nd hit now only pops up at the outer 2 hitboxes instead of outer 3 hitboxes
    - Neutral Air final hit knockback growth decreased
    - Forward Air startup increased
    - Forward Air hitbox angles have been noticeably lowered to send further horizontally
    - Forward Air damage increased by 1
    - Forward Air base knockback increased , knockback growth decreased
    - Back Air closer endlag mostly reverted to v2.5. Still allows a small window to short-hop Back Air autocancel
    - Back Air send off hits have increased base knockback, and the inner trajectory has been lowered
    - Back Air outer hitbox damage increased to 5
    - Up Air sweetspot Knock back growth and damage increased. Hitbox size decreased, with the sweetspot deeper inside Ivysaur. Sourspot angle decreased
    - Up Air no longer halts horizontal momentum on fall
    - Up Air meteor hitboxes redone - now two side-by-side hitboxes that maintain horizontal coverage with negative disjoint on the bottom
    - Down Air cooldown increased
    - Down Air damage increased and homogenized against grounded and aerial targets to 7
    - Down Air sweetspot size decreased, with the sweetspot deeper inside Ivysaur
    - Grabs - outer 2 of 5 boxes on standing & pivot grab + outer 1 box of 3 on dash grab are ground-only to alleviate CG issues
    - Forward Throw knockback lowered to match 2.6 B-Throw
    - Back Throw knockback growth increased
    - Up Throw angle increased to send slightly behind Ivysaur
    - Up Throw knockback growth decreased
    - Down Throw knockback growth increased
    - Neutral-B startup hit is now a relatively weak windbox
    - Neutral-B max charge lowered from 22% to 18%
    - Aerial Neutral-B land-cancels only if the Special Button is not held
    - Forward-B checks if existing leaf is out on frame 1 instead of 15.
    - Forward-B hit refresh rate slower , damage increased per hit by 1, hit angle increased to send further vertical
    - Forward-B Razor Leaf slowed down to v2.5 timings; physics/floats ported from v2.5, but lasts 5 frames longer
    - Up-B sweetspot hitbox size slightly increased
    - Up-B sweetspot damage increased to 18
    - Down-B seeds rise slower, do not go as high, and fall more slowly as well
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    [collapse=Jigglypuff]
    - Sing sleep power increased to compensate the sleep mechanic changes
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    [collapse=King Dedede]
    - Forward Smash’s meteor hitbox now only hits grounded targets (Aerial-only Spike hitbox on hammer head now has proper priority)
    - Forward air’s hitboxes were cleaned up and polished to match the animation better
    - Aerial Up B no longer has medium armor. Grounded Up B medium armor starts and ends much sooner
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    [collapse=Link]
    - All sword attacks are now correctly clankable
    - Forward tilt does slightly more damage at the base of the sword, and slightly less on Link's shoulder
    - Up Tilt's base knockback slightly lowered on all hitboxes
    - Up Tilt's knockback growth changes slightly based on where you hit on the sword as per Melee/Brawl
    - Down Smash's first hit outer hitboxes dropped from 17 to 16 damage. (Sweetspot is on elbow)
    - Down Smash's second hit has 17 damage sweetspot added to inside hit. Slightly dropped knockback growth on all second hits.
    - Up Smash: IASAs slightly later, last swing inner hit from 9 damage to 10
    - Back air IASAs two frames earlier, second kick angle slightly lowered
    - Down Air's hitboxes moved to better match Melee and cover his sword
    - Dash attack's hitbox active one additional frame, slightly later IASA
    - Dash attack's damage now increases on the closest hitboxes
    - Dash attack's angle now decreases on the closest hitboxes
    - Link can correctly angle his boomerang downward on the ground
    - Shrank hitbox size on boomerang's "flub slap"
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    [collapse=Lucario]
    - Lucario starts each stock with an Aura charge
    - Neutral Air is now a multi-hit aerial with similar power
    - Up throw has slightly less endlag
    - Down throw has slightly less total duration
    - Fully charge Aura Sphere travels slightly slower
    - Aura Sphere charging scales travel speed slightly more quickly
    - Down B has less startup and is invincible slightly longer. Same total duration
    - Wallcling can no longer be activated out of Up B Ending
    - Final Smash beam is larger, turns faster and further, and is more powerful
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    [collapse=Lucas]
    - Down-b repeating hitbox refresh rate was reduced
    - Down-b shield damage was significantly reduced
    - Fixed a bug that prevented the >100% ledgeroll animation from completing
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    [collapse=Luigi]
    - Storing Misfires for later now requires shield to be held, but you can misfire OR store a misfire during any part of the charging animation. The misfire indicator flash now repeats until the charge is full
    - Increased the size of down taunt's hitbox to hit below ledges better
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    [collapse=Mario]
    - Forward Smash hitlag modifier has been reduced slightly to be normalized
    [/collapse]
    [collapse=Mr. Game and Watch]
    - Weight slightly increased
    - Dash lengthened
    - Forward Smash loop hitboxes removed, now possesses a weaker late flub hitbox
    - Neutral B uses Heavy Landing lag (4 frames) instead of instantly switching to Wait upon landing
    - Super food removed
    - 3 hammer's shield damage reduced
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    [collapse=Pikachu]
    - Skull Bash can now grab ledges, reinstated from Brawl
    - Quick Attack's animation stretches less and his tail is now intangible during travel
    - Quick Attack Cancel tweaked to compensate for the SCD bugfix
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    [collapse=Pit]
    - Fixed animation glitches during Forward Smash 2 and angled Forward Tilts
    - Standing Grab range slightly increased
    - Down Tilt meteor sweetspot reduced in knockback. Tipper knockback behavior homogenized to be a standard launcher
    - Down Tilt IASA added two frames before the move ends
    - Up Smash final hit knockback increased
    - Neutral Air revamped as a more traditional “drill” move. Hits an additional time, linking knockback tweaked for consistency, hitboxes cleaned up and sync’d to his blades, and the final hit has reduced knockback and hitlag
    - Down Air spike sweetspot has increased knockback and the trajectory was raised to send further outward
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    [collapse=R.O.B.]
    -Back Air vertical momentum canceling returned (reverted to 2.5)
    -Down Airs after the first give a smaller vertical boost, do 2 less damage, and have slightly smaller hitboxes. Refreshes upon landing on stage
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    [collapse=Snake]
    - Up Tilt reanimated for polish
    - Forward Smash reanimated for polish
    - Forward Smash start up very slightly decreased
    - Neutral air's last hit sends at a slightly lower angle
    - Forward air has reduced knockback growth
    - Standing grab has much less reverse range
    - C4 aerial stick hitbox moved up and slightly in
    - Nikita side B replaced with Tranquilizer Gun
    - Tranquilizer gun has a 3 dart clip that can be reloaded prematurely by holding shield within six frames starting side B
    - Up taunt replaced with a cigarette smoking taunt
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    [collapse=Sonic]
    - Sonic’s aerial mobility was slightly increased
    - Neutral Air hits one frame sooner and stays strong slightly longer. The Initial hitboxes were slightly increased in size, and knockback on all hits tweaked to aid in comboing and late-percent kills
    - Neutral Air now has a small initial sweetspot that deals 15 damage with strong knockback and has neutral frame advantage on block
    - Neutral Air animation tweaked for polish
    - Back Air has increased start up reminiscent of Brawl’s, and increased damage and knockback on all hitboxes. IASA window starts two frames earlier
    - Forward Air’s early sweetspot has reduced knockback growth
    - Up Air's knocback trajectory slightly raised to be straight vertical. Both Sweet and sour spots have increased knockback growth
    - Homing attack lock-on range reduced by about 1/3
    - When Homing or Blast attack collides with a floor, Sonic rebounds instead of flattening to the stage
    - Spin Maneuver’s Jump-cancel frame-lock no longer resets upon landing mid-move. Sonic also flashes when the frame-lock ends
    - Spring attack use is now reset if Sonic is grabbed
    - Spin Dash knockback stats and trajectory tweaked to aid in comboing
    - Spin Dash's Spin Jump no longer allows the cstick to input double jumps
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    [collapse=Squirtle]
    - Due to the SCD bugfix, much of Squirtle’s moveset required physics compensations. His gravity was also slightly increased
    - List of compensated moves: Withdraw, Withdraw jump, Withdraw rebound, Aqua Jet, Waterfall, double jump
    - Tech rolls adjusted so that the movement occurs slightly later in the animation
    - Dash length significantly shortened. As a result, Shell Shift requires less commitment to input
    - Crawl Attack’s input made easier
    - Standing grab reverse/inside range increased
    - Downsmash IASA removed and cooldown increased
    - Withdraw jump can now be input during Withdraw turn once Squirtle has changed directions
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    [collapse=Toon Link]
    - All sword attacks are now correctly clankable
    - Fast Fall Terminal Velocity increased
    - Forward Tilt has slightly less base knockback on inside hits
    - Forward Tilt now does more damage closer to the tip
    - Forward Tilt's knockback growth slightly increased on all hits
    - Up Tilt has slightly less endlag
    - Up Tilt's base knockback increased and knockback growth lowered
    - Up Tilt's angle now increases closer to the tip
    - Forward Air has less startup
    - Down Air's hitboxes moved in to better center them around Toon Link/his sword
    - Up throw's speed is now properly weight dependent
    - Up throw has less endlag
    - Up Special's second hitbox lasts one less frame
    - Up Special's last hitbox does more damage, with less hitlag and weaker SFX
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    [collapse=Wario]
    - Down Tilt endlag slightly increased. Hit duration decreased
    - Forward Tilt hit duration decreased
    - Down Smash endag slightly increased. Sweetspot no longer hits aerial opponents
    - Forward Aerial endlag slightly increased
    - Up Aerial endlag slightly increased
    - Up Throw does slightly less damage
    - Bite Throw trajectory lowered slightly
    - Waft: Charge-up time cut in half. Each Waft level reduced in damage/knockback/hitbox size/vertical height gain appropriately
    - Can no longer crouch out of Shoulder Charge
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    [collapse=Wolf]
    - Up B's base knockback reduced
    - Up B now correctly depletes Wolf's double jump
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    [collapse=Zelda]
    - Forward Tilt's sweetspots have less knockback growth
    - Forward Air's strongest sweetspot has slightly less knockback growth
    - Back Air's strongest sweetspot has slightly less base knockback
    - Nayru's Love's final grounded hit has normalized SDI modifiers
    - Nayru's Love's aerial land cancel has slightly more lag
    - Din's Fire static hitboxes do 2 less damage
    - Transform now detonates all Din's Fire currently on screen
    - Uptaunt's hitboxes pull in further towards Zelda
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    [collapse=Zero Suit Samus]
    - Downsmash's knockback tweaked to always stun a grounded opponent
    - Neutral Air's whip is now unclankable
    - Forward Air's second hit trajectory lowered
    - Back Air sweetspot is easier to land
    - Neutral B's fully charged Blaster shot is now unclankable
    - Up B's whip is now unclankable
    - Down B no longer has invincibility
    - Reinstated transform during Final Smash
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    Enjoy,
    -The PMBR
     
  2. Strong Bad

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    Speed isn't enough. You gotta have technique too.

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    First.

    ....based Project M tho.
     
  3. KingJigglypuff

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    My body has never been more ready.
     
  4. The Real Gamer

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  5. shwickid222

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    They didnt change ness?!? Great. That means more pk fire bill****.
     
  6. ItalianStallion

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    You can DI out of it.

    I'm so hyped! A little surprised at the DDD changes though.
     
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  7. -Ran

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    Thanks for everything guys.
     
  8. 2 C H i L L E D

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    I love PM and the Backroom. Very appreciative thanks alot guys. Great work.
     
  9. MrGamer419

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    Does this support usb
     
  10. Xenozoa425

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    2K+ people viewing this thread at once. Holy. F***ing. S***.

    But the wait was well worth it.
     
  11. legendofrob1

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    No changes to ness? Good, just mastered a combo.
     
  12. DoctorBoson

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    Strongbad, could you explain the installer? I'm not really sure how to use it: do I just stick the exe onto my SD card, or do I run it on my desktop and and install to the USB that I'm using (Homebrew + USBLoader)?
     
  13. MysteryRevengerson

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    IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL

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    Installer didn't work for me so you probably have to do something odd.
     
  14. The Real Gamer

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    2k viewers holy mother of god. o.0
     
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  15. John12346

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    Spacies are too good? No changes

    Anyone else? Instant nerf :smirk:

    nah jk

    (sorta)

    Good job with this update! You guys put in a lot of work and I'm hyped to see what this new build has to offer.
     
  16. QQQQQQQ7777777

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    I think the installer downloads off of the PM website which as you may know is down atm
     
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    Jesus Christ, look how many of us are in this thread! XD

    Amazing work you guys. This is gonna be so much fun. <3
     
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    What are the fixes for Ice Climbers?
     
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    Hype. This is the definition of Hype.
     
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    Mediafire freezing for anyone?
     
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    Got all 4 copies of it, now organizing all of it and putting it on my backup SD card! :grin:
    Wai u no DI=???
     
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    YESSSSSS


    THANKS PJM TEAM!
     
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    The homebrew wifi set freezes for me >_<
    Edit: Nvm
     
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    hmm... I can't say that I understand the impetus behind the changes made... I really do wonder how they'll get all the characters on a similar level. I'd love to hear some developer commentary about balance in the future, and how they've come to the game they have now...

    I'm gonna go play now.
     
  25. AGFanProduction

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    Alright! Great! Gonna test this out asap! I know this will be good.
     
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    goddamn i'm amazed crashboards hasn't crashed yet
     
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    Us posters here got the balls to post! :shades:
     
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    n00b question: what does B-Reversible mean?
     
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    No Marth changes?!Oh well he is still great and I can not complain about anything right now!

    Dumb computer copy this faster!
     
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    This changelist is bs. Ganon and snake nerfed while pk fire laughs in are faces.
     
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    i don't get the ddd-changes and that one tiny mario-change…really
     
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    Can we get an official change list for the newly added characters from their brawl/melee iterations?
     
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    Iirc you can DL the installer anywhere just choose the root directory of your SD card as 'destination' if you have 2.6b running with USB loader you shouldn't have to do anything extra to get 3.0 to work
     
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    Why is the folder called project m do I rename it to private?
     
  36. KingOfNothing

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    I am also confused with a few of the changes that were given to the characters.
    Im wondering how Ganondorf was improved (he obviously got some changes, but that don't seem all that important, still doesn't seem to stack up with the rest of the cast)?
    DDD also, but like someone else said, the shield pushback might work more in his favor.
     
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    Nope, you copy the folders over exactly as is, Project m should be in the root.
     
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    The Diddy buffs are much appreciated :)

    If only it wasn't finals week, I'd have time to play this >.>
     
  39. EpicFlyingTaco

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    Amazing job guys! Unfortunately I would be able to play tonight because of homework, but you all really did a fantastic job.
     
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    In case fox mains missed their real notes:
    - Raised the ceiling blastzone of the following stages: Distant Planet, Yoshi's Island, Castle Siege, Green Hill Zone, Halberd, Rumble Falls, Norfair, Skyworld, Skyloft, Lylat, Metal Cavern, and Smashville
    - Significantly raised the ceiling blastzone of Dracula's Castle
     
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