Ice Climber stages

[HdTyvek]

So i have multiple money matches against IC's at an upcoming tournament. my experience against IC's is literally a friend that plays casually. so im looking for some information to help me.

What stages do IC's like and dislike? thanks guys!

 

[DerfMidWest]

It depends on the player and the mu.
ICs don't really have a bad stage, just little problems on different stages.

I'm definitely a small stages IC. My go to stage is Yoshi's, then FoD, then BF.
But a lot of ICs are the opposite and like having space on FD, Dreamland, and stadium.

Most people auto-ban FD against ICs, which is fair in a few matchups, but it depends. Generally, most IC players when they are new are told "ICs are broken on FD because it was chu's best stage back in 2003" so most ICs are super comfortable there, even if its not their best stage in a particular mu.

That said, a lot of ICs (and smashers in general) are super lazy about their CPs and just auto CP fd if its not banned.

 

[Captain Earth]

I like to have a lot of space as the ICs it gives more more space for setups. The thing about me is my favorite stages are FD Dreamland and yoshi's. I like those stages more because they are the ones i have practiced more on than the other stages and on those stages i am most comfortable with the platforms and how to manipulate them to my advantage, what i am saying is that you should practice on stages see which ones you are comfortable with in terms of movement and how you play. and practice more on 3 stages than the other 3 and you will be able to decide which stage is good for you.

As Derf said ICs dont have a bad stage so you can basically choose which stages are good for you and which are not as good for you.

 

[HdTyvek]

alright, thanks for the insight guys.

as for matchups im either going to go marth or if i cant get my set up back in time probably fox.

 

[DerfMidWest]

alright, thanks for the insight guys.

as for matchups im either going to go marth or if i cant get my set up back in time probably fox.

Marth is a pretty rough MU if you play it correctly. It requires a fair bit of techskill and mu knowledge from the marth side (primarily how to use dtilts effectively).
I would recommend, if you have fluid movement and know how to dash dance effectively, either going to dreamland, fd, or battlefield.
But it really depends on the IC. If they don't have a solid yoshi's game, or really know how to abuse marth without room to dd, marth can cheese them there for sure.

 

[SHIP]

I really like going to yoshi's and fountain so I can up smash through the platforms. Every other stage you have to get off the ground to cover the platforms.

 

[HdTyvek]

all info i will keep in mind,

which match up do you dislike more? fox or marth

 

[Cervidae]

all info i will keep in mind,

which match up do you dislike more? fox or marth

Depends on how good the Fox is. If it's a really good Fox that can separate and KO Nana quickly than honestly I'd rather deal with Marth. Marths, however, tend to cause more trouble on average I'd say.

 

[Captain Earth]

all info i will keep in mind,

which match up do you dislike more? fox or marth

I agree with Cervidae that a really good and fast fox who is confident and able to waveshine nana to death consistantly is more difficult, however a Marth how is really good at spacing is also very tough since spaced fairs and d-tilts are very difficult to get around and traditionally an IC player will just desync blizzard to keep Marth away.

 

[HdTyvek]

im a much more experienced marth player but my lack of a memory card means i cannot practice any marth, so ive been practicing fox. guess ill have to see how i feel tournament day to pick

 

[DerfMidWest]

all info i will keep in mind,

which match up do you dislike more? fox or marth

Marth is overall the harder matchup at a higher level, but I think it's a lot easier for fox to learn what he has to do.
Fox can kind of cheese ICs who don't have good situational awareness really easily as well (marth can too, but it's harder).
At the same time though, every IC ever knows for to 0-death fox for free, so it you're not real comfortable with your tech stuff, it could be pretty difficult.

I'd say just use whichever character you're more comfortable with and watch a lot of videos of the mu.
I really like the way PPU plays marth/ICs, and SFAT is really good at fox/ics.
There are also a fair amount of mid-level players who are pretty solid at it too, which I feel are even more helpful to watch because you'll see a lot of situations at mid-level that you wouldn't at high level, so it's good to learn to identify those.

 

[Fly_Amanita]

I definitely find Fox harder. Marth doesn't kill half my character off stray, low-risk approaches.

 

[DerfMidWest]

My post is now irrelevant, gg.
To be fair though, half the time I post here, I just repeat things wobbles says that make sense to me.

I'm still a believer in marth, but fox is definitely a little ****.
Marth's punish game on ICs is nowhere as strong though, but marth with a lead is the scariest thing in melee.

I have a lot of opinions that probably only make sense in my head though, and might be more theory based than my actual experience, so I'll shut up now.

 

[IC-Rambler]

My post is now irrelevant, gg.
To be fair though, half the time I post here, I just repeat things wobbles says that make sense to me.

I'm still a believer in marth, but fox is definitely a little ****.
Marth's punish game on ICs is nowhere as strong though, but marth with a lead is the scariest thing in melee.

I have a lot of opinions that probably only make sense in my head though, and might be more theory based than my actual experience, so I'll shut up now.

It's pretty easy to sound dumb on this forum lol (not that it's particularly a bad thing.) Is that standard for smashboards or is it more unique to the ICs forum?

 

[DerfMidWest]

I dunno, I feel like the IC boards are one of the least dumb places on this site.
Samus boards are pretty cool too.
Other than that most places can be pretty void of intelligence, or just stuck in 2008-2011

 

[HdTyvek]

the not S tier character mains are way more dedicated to finding out every little thing out and i give them all mad respect,

 

[DerfMidWest]

the not S tier character mains are way more dedicated to finding out every little thing out and i give them all mad respect,

I don't know about that statement either. it's just a couple of them. I'm not sure why.

 

[HdTyvek]

they want to show what their character can do, its dedication and pride. fly is a great example.

 

[DerfMidWest]

I mean... I really like the IC boards and the Samus boards. Both are pretty focused on developing the character most of the time.
The Doc boards have a couple dudes every once in awhile...
Yoshi boards are cool too.
Most of the other ones are mostly just complaining about their characters limitations. Or just worshiping top players and not exploring anything that they don't do (peach boards are especially guilty here).
A couple of them have had like periods of intense developmental drive, but it usually fizzles out.

As a whole these days, people just don't seem to want to share information as much as they used to. At least here.
I'm not sure why.

 

[VegiLohrd]

Ganon boards are interesting.

 

[DerfMidWest]

Ganon boards are interesting.

I havent read through the ganon boards in awhile but last time I was on there there was a lot of complaining, kage telling people to have the spirit of the warrior, and TM being the homie.

 

[RazeriaN]

I wish there was a stage match-up pie chart. I'm equally as good (Or bad) in every stage, and really have no preference. I would like to know what to ban/pick for every matchup.

Edit : Like, I know that Marth mains usually dislike Dreamland, so I try playing them in that stage. But IDK about the rest of the cast.