T3h Albino
Smash Master
i got it to work in a serious match the other day 8)
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Dedede Database (The *Buuman trap* included) UPDATED 7/17/09
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Buuman
Smash Ace
good stuff. It's becoming an incredibly useful tactic against non chain grabable characters
Edit: Can someone test to see if D3s forward tilt out ranges olimars blue pivot grab?
Edit: Can someone test to see if D3s forward tilt out ranges olimars blue pivot grab?
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Wow how do you know for sure? Did a friend do blue pikmin pivot grab or something...?
Buuman
Smash Ace
I'm sure that the f tilt out reaches all standing grabs from olimar and all pivot grabs aside from the blue one.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Yeah it does, you're right, good job :D. I checked it out myself for a while, (it took too long! -_-)
Buuman, I thought you'd enjoy this. It's from the G&W matchup thread who are rediscussing Dedede this week.
A new problem for me against D3, is D-Throw -> D-Smash
Basically, D3 D-Throws, walks over slowly, and D-Smashes you while you get up. It also makes it hard because after each D-Throw, G&W is on his stomach, making your recovery slow and it takes longer to Up-B out of it.
I really hate being Grabbed/Shield Grabbed/Pivot Grabbed by that fat penguin
Buuman
Smash Ace
LMAO
Too funny Gates xD
Yeah, I rarely land my trap on Omegablackmage, cause GW can up B out of it, that's the only advice I'd give that kid
<3 gates
~no homo
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
How do you know for sure this is for real smexy? Testing again eh?
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Alright thanks for that...I'm going to be playing better against Bardull for sure.. hehe.
L-T!
Smash Apprentice
N33dz Moar Ganon!!!!!!
What doesn't, amirite?
Buuman
Smash Ace
Okay, so, I found something groundbreaking against diddy kong. Run up and full hop dair bananas that are on the ground. It's broken because you cover your *** with your hammer, you pick up the banana, you move while your doing it, and it auto cancels
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Holy hell.
That sounds amazing.
How do we not see that before?
That sounds amazing.
How do we not see that before?
Jupz
Smash Master
woah thats sweet lol
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Wait what do you mean, full hop down air...? It won't pick up a banana peel...
Buuman
Smash Ace
yes it will
L-T!
Smash Apprentice
I brought Buuman down to the last hit, but the Buuman trap was just too good.
L-T!
Smash Apprentice
Yes. You are very right. Very right indeed.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
I'm having a hard time comprehending that...could you get a small video up for me? :D
Buuman
Smash Ace
>,>
Run towards a banana, full hop dair, and you will pick up the nana. You must dair quickly to pick it up, almost immediately before u leave the ground. I'm not making a video for you people. I don't care if you use this technique or not. I'll share with you guys, but I'm not making a video for something this simple.
bludhoundz
Smash Ace
It can work but seems kind of situational..
If Diddy is anywhere close (but not right next to the banana) you'll probably eat a Fair
If Diddy is anywhere close (but not right next to the banana) you'll probably eat a Fair
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
90% of Diddy's just run and Dash Attack Bananas. If you beat them it's a free Dair.
Hell it's a really good idea even if you can't time the pick up right, because Diddy eats a Dair, and may drop the banana leaving him screwed. Picking things up with an arial is a really simple concept, why do people need vids for that?
Hell it's a really good idea even if you can't time the pick up right, because Diddy eats a Dair, and may drop the banana leaving him screwed. Picking things up with an arial is a really simple concept, why do people need vids for that?
Buuman
Smash Ace
I don't bother with people that can't understand simple concepts. I'm just saying, King Dedede's dash attack pick up isn't as viable as Diddys, but if you run at the banana, and input full Jump + Dair (almost simultaneously) right after running, you'll jump dair + pick up the banana. Whoever doesn't understand that should just leave this conversation.
bludhoundz
Smash Ace
I'm assuming you have to input the dair while you're rising from your jump in order to pick up the banana, correct?
Yes .
Buuman
Smash Ace
Exactly, that's why it works. And boy, does it work... >:^D *evil laugh*
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Thanks for explaining. Just cheer up alright? Not everybody's the same in general.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Buu, if done right, then the trap is guaranteed right? Seir doesn't believe it.
Buuman
Smash Ace
Yes...if done right, it can't be avoided. Tell him to go to apex so I can use it on him. >,>
Sensei Seibrik
Smash Hero
I am going to apex, and it doesnt work IF the mk just waits. Im not saying u'll never get it, but ur gona have to mix up between a dash, dtilt, so they dont just sit there waiting for ur charge. if u mix it up, and predict they're quick tech, it will work, if they wait when u try it, they can just sit and time their invincibility so they get up while the swing passes through.
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
I'm just gunna save Buu time. He starts on reaction to movement. Not following the Dthrow.
Buuman
Smash Ace
Thank you Ace. Yeah, the best way to put it, is I wait until I see a frame of movement from the opponent, and then charge (Leanback to avoid get up attacks) and release. We'll have to play at Apex, I'm so pumped for this weekend :D
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
I've actually learned alot about D3 from you, I should start playing him, but he just never really fit my style. Makes me sad I have so much knoweldge I don't use.
Sensei Seibrik
Smash Hero
i guess im just going based on what i saw, looking back on that vid u have vs zelda, the second trap, u definitly started charging before zelda teched, the charge scared zelda to tech away, had she waited, it would have been avoidable.
Buuman
Smash Ace
Ah, I can see that. Idk why I started charging right off the bat. I guess I just naturally change it up. But usually whenever I do it, I wait for movement; the down side is - less charge (less damage and knockback)
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