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Dallas Melee ELO PR, 8/27 Update

AbsoluteBlack

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It's been six months and I said I'd post it, so... here we go. I know better than anyone how inaccurate it is after the top few, but nothing to do about it. Does anyone know how to make Smashboards start numbering at 11 in that spoiler bracket short of hand typing every number?

Update including the last few biweeklies and LTC2. Ranking all of those OOS players was hard.
  1. Bluezaft - 1801.87 :marthmelee::jigglypuffmelee:
  2. Boomstick - 1747.97 :falcomelee:
  3. [MB] Disafter - 1737.68 :foxmelee::falcomelee::sheikmelee:
  4. Albert - 1705.16 :falcomelee:
  5. JWu - 1684.61 :marthmelee:
  6. Mew - 1677.55 :everyone:
  7. Thoraxe - 1668.32 :foxmelee::marthmelee::luigimelee:
  8. Penguin - 1660.34 :falcomelee::foxmelee::falconmelee:
  9. Lunchables - 1657.72 :marthmelee:
  10. Dr. Drew the Dragon - 1648.83 :sheikmelee:

  1. Bluezaft - 1801.87
  2. Boomstick - 1747.97
  3. [MB] Disafter - 1737.68
  4. Albert - 1705.16
  5. JWu - 1684.61
  6. Mew - 1677.55
  7. Thoraxe - 1668.32
  8. Penguin - 1660.34
  9. Lunchables - 1657.72
  10. Dr. Drew the Dragon - 1648.83
  11. Tadeo - 1645.82
  12. PootTheBox - 1638.99
  13. Hamyojo - 1638.08
  14. Sethlon - 1636.89
  15. WaterlessFishie - 1634.11
  16. Oracle - 1632.00
  17. McBad - 1618.99
  18. Calm Animal - 1613.19
  19. [MB] JaggedCole - 1612.35
  20. WTBlake - 1611.36
  21. LK - 1609.32
  22. DMG - 1604.54
  23. CT Denti - 1603.88
  24. J$ - 1603.16
  25. Saravia - 1602.81
  26. QUITEBALLIN - 1601.40
  27. Thin Mint - 1601.01
  28. WEB - 1600.14
  29. [MB] AbsoluteBlack - 1597.06
  30. SDJ - 1596.91
  31. Mijo - 1596.72
  32. Infinity - 1596.63
  33. Scotch - 1596.10
  34. EMBR+ - 1593.08
  35. Aozora - 1593.09
  36. Hodgy - 1593.09
  37. kbzy - 1593.00
  38. Bwett - 1591.25
  39. Moophobia - 1591.12
  40. Nevakee - 1591.02
  41. Pizzacato - 1590.28
  42. MC_smash - 1589.97
  43. Zift - 1589.34
  44. Cherries - 1588.17
  45. Enso - 1587.81
  46. Scaremonger - 1587.59
  47. Aliami - 1587.24
  48. Goldrook - 1585.55
  49. Tunnl - 1584.37
  50. Chado - 1584.10
  51. Moose - 1583.36
  52. Rai - 1582.83
  53. Hiya - 1582.72
  54. Prodigial - 1582.70
  55. bebop - 1582.59
  56. Sir Psycho Sexy - 1582.52
  57. Gentle Breeze - 1581.89
  58. [MB] Fury - 1581.36
  59. [MB] Quote - 1580.52
  60. Kingly - 1578.61
  61. Siro - 1576.37
  62. Flemon - 1575.05
  63. Denthorn - 1574.48
  64. CoolGuy69 - 1572.04
  65. Pinku - 1571.40
  66. EP the Salt King - 1570.07
  67. PTJon - 1568.67
  68. Xori - 1567.44
  69. Storm - 1567.02
  70. Jesse - 1566.04
  71. Goyo - 1565.98
  72. Aspen - 1564.61
  73. Ji - 1564.40
  74. Jump - 1564.22
  75. Dizzy - 1563.01
  76. Nevake - 1560.70
  77. Ouki - 1551.30
  78. Humbone - 1538.51
  79. Soup - 1528.82

Tournaments
Dime 7
PARG 2
Bit Battles
Dime 8
King of the House
Collected
King of the House 2
Dime 9
Collected 2
FX Biweekly 1
King of the House 3
FX Biweekly 2
DtownBeatdown
Collected 3
FX Biweekly 3
FX Biweekly 4
Dime 10
FX Biweekly 5
LTC2
FX Biweekly 6
 
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1. Drop out of city players
2. If you're going to put me in, at least put me as my actual tag
 

Penguin_ftw

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Yeah you really need to cut the ooc players.

Also Bluezaft is on sabbatical or something so don't include him either (but him being above ooc is pretty lulsy)
 
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"Dallas Melee PR"
All the non dallas players at the top
 

AbsoluteBlack

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Different people have told me different things about including OOC, so I left them in by default. Cleared out the top now.
 

-=Untamed-Beast=-

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LOL What is all this based on? How did I get as high as #20?

To everyone beneath me who can or have beaten me, I laugh at you all!
And I have been inactive now for longer than I've competed, lolol.

Thanks for getting this thread up, though. <3
 
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Bebop86

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Yeah I don't understand how I could possibly be in here lol I've only been to two tournaments. One didn't make it out of pools and the other I made like...4-way tie for 9th.
 

AbsoluteBlack

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*shrug* Elo's are bad for smash outside of top players. They're based only on head to head matches, so people - like me - who always make it out of pools at the DIME or KOTH tournies, then lose in bracket, end up far lower than people who only went to Collected or PARG 2 and had a few bracket wins.
 
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AbsoluteBlack

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Whoops, didn't mean to sound like I was putting anyone down. That sounded bad upon rereading. Just trying to explain how the points get so skewed; we have a lot of tournament series with a lot of different bracket sizes and methods of pools, which makes the ELO... rough. I want to coordinate with the big TO's and try to find a standard.
 

-=Untamed-Beast=-

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No, I wasn't being sarcastic! :p
Really though good luck with this; it'd be great to having solid Melee rankings around here.
 
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Hey uhh if you're going to put my name on there, at least make it my actual name. Thanks.

Also could you include a list of tournaments this is based off of like the PM PR has? I'd like to see what tournaments were used
 
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Quot3

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welp, looks like I've got some work to do. Time to go in at these tourneys this summer
 
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omg awestin noooooooooooooo

its k I have a positive record vs you *runs*
 

AbsoluteBlack

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Oh man, sorry Zach. All of the tio files have you as zachattax (cause lol TO's) and I forgot to change it when I pasted it the second time.
 

hamyojo

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btw thanks for making this @ AbsoluteBlack AbsoluteBlack
we can always use more salt around here, and actually I'm kinda happy with being top 20 in this weirdo list, still it'd be fun to go up further, which I eventually will I guess :yoshi:(also :younglinkmelee:)
 

AbsoluteBlack

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Lol no problem. I think it'd actually work with more TO cooperation and we only seem to have 2 or 3 melee TO's, so in another 6 months this might be a legitimate list. And the salt is good, I definitely feel more motivated now.
 

AbsoluteBlack

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I'll probably update it on weekends when I get new tourny data. So tonight if Gabe gets the tio to me quickly I'll add DIME9 and today's biweekly.
 

HodgyDot

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*shrug* Elo's are bad for smash outside of top players. They're based only on head to head matches, so people - like me - who always make it out of pools at the DIME or KOTH tournies, then lose in bracket, end up far lower than people who only went to Collected or PARG 2 and had a few bracket wins.
Why not adjust the weight of the elo hit you get from events over 40 and under 40? like make it 70% of what is currently of lower level events like Collected.
 
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IMO, gabe and a few others should just make their own PR instead of using ELO. I always think elo just never ends up being right.
 

Penguin_ftw

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Yeah the thing is tournaments aren't a great indicator of relative skill beyond like second place, so it all gets kind of jumbled especially as you go farther down the list.

Tbh we've already made up a tier list for all the notable DFW players but then if we release them as "official" or whatever people get butthurt
 

AbsoluteBlack

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@ HodgyDot HodgyDot That's happened. It's not size of tournament though, it's format. Straight bracket vs pools and such.

Honestly the ELO isn't to be accurate it's to generate salt and trash talk
 

Penguin_ftw

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Wobbles should start at 2k bare minimum, ooc prolly should have started around 1700 but I know Connor didn't **** with any of that
 

PTJon

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Im sure no one would complain if a group of the top players in the area all came together to make a ranking (maybe something smaller like top 15 or 20?) , at the same time though this already exists and has had work put into it so I think theres no reason to get rid of it entirely unless you guys think thatd just make everything more confusing.
 

HodgyDot

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@ HodgyDot HodgyDot That's happened. It's not size of tournament though, it's format. Straight bracket vs pools and such.

Honestly the ELO isn't to be accurate it's to generate salt and trash talk
No i completely feel you, i mean i think pools should have more weight at say a Dime and KOTH then the first rounds of a bracket at a Collected. i am just hype someone is taking the time to do this, if you ever need any help with anything i have way too much time on my hands haha
 
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