Chorus Kids for Smash Bros. DLC! ~ Lend your Song of Support in the Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot! ~

[FancysaurusRex]

Welcome back! Yeahh, I'd say it's been quite the hectic week around here..

So, regarding the roster.. I'd just like to point out that the leaker did acknowledge that there are in fact more characters to come that weren't in the roster image.

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/c..._complete_still_more_characters_we_do/cjwgmos

The leaked image of All-Star mode locked supports his claim aswell.

I apologize if this is common knowledge, but I've seen way too many people jump to conclusions and write the leaked roster off as final. Not saying you guys are, it's just easy to assume that given the many who are under the perception of it being final.

That said, we know for a fact that the Kids are still up in the air.. and increasing in likeliness with Shulk's confirmation at that, so worry not my fellow chorus members! (the Chorus Kids social thread should totally be named something along those lines when they're confirmed )

I seem to recall the leaker later admitting he was lying about everything outside of the photos and video, or something along those lines. It certainly would be odd to show the esrb an incomplete roster. I don't know tho. But maybe?

Ugh, this leak is just too hard to follow. Too many twists and turns. I just want to know when I can tap to close my yap

 

[Jigglystep]

I seem to recall the leaker later admitting he was lying about everything outside of the photos and video, or something along those lines. It certainly would be odd to show the esrb an incomplete roster. I don't know tho. But maybe?

Ugh, this leak is just too hard to follow. Too many twists and turns. I just want to know when I can tap to close my yap

I certainly agree, it's all really a confusing and controversial mess.

To clear that up, basically there were multiple people involved with the leak, all of which were coming from the same source. However, the initial "leaker" from 4chan received the roster images from one of these people, then in confidence, posted them and pretended he was the main source. At that point, he decided to mess with everyone with the fake DLC list knowing he had the "credibility" to do so.
A mod confirmed this.

Now, the Reddit leaker (the one who posted the gameplay footage) who is saying the leaked roster isn't final is one of the people actually directly involved with the ESRB source, so all of his information is presumably genuine, also taking into consideration the fact that he posted information himself regarding Bowser Jr. and Shulk's movesets on Reddit prior to posting the footage.

That's what went down, to my understanding.. if I missed any details, bleh.

Anyway, with all of this in combination with Gematsu and the Sneaky Spirit; I can assure you that our little singing heroes are in a great position right now and we all very well may be beaming with pride in a matter of 2 weeks! :3

 

[FancysaurusRex]

To clear that up, basically there were multiple people involved with the leak, all of which were coming from the same source. However, the initial "leaker" from 4chan received the roster images from one of these people, then in confidence, posted them and pretended he was the main source. At that point, he decided to mess with everyone with the fake DLC list knowing he had the "credibility" to do so.
A mod confirmed this.

Now, the Reddit leaker (the one who posted the gameplay footage) who is saying the leaked roster isn't final is one of the people actually directly involved with the ESRB source, so all of his information is presumably genuine, also taking into consideration the fact that he posted information himself regarding Bowser Jr. and Shulk's movesets on Reddit prior to posting the footage.

That's what went down, to my understanding.. if I missed any details, bleh.

Anyway, with all of this in combination with Gematsu and the Sneaky Spirit; I can assure you that our little singing heroes are in a great position right now and we all very well may be beaming with pride in a matter of 2 weeks! :3

Well this is certainly positive!! Chorus Men are literally the only possible newcomer left whose exclusion would make me sad.

As an aside, @ BluePikmin11 , you're in charge of the leak group, right? I've been trying to join, but I cannot find the pm function on mobile :T

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I changed my mind. As long as Aaron Carter isn't the voice actor, I'll support.

 

[Jigglystep]

Here's a few ideas I had for their specials that I drew up on Miiverse:

Up-B - See-Saw: Upon activating the move, a see-saw appears beneath the Chorus Kids and the two back Kids imitate the "ee-ooh" sound from See-Saw then jump up. Right as they land, pressing B again in rhythm enables the main Kid to launch even higher; he should imitate the "uh-oom" sound if timed correctly. At the peak of the jump, the see-saw disappears in a puff of smoke and the other two Chorus Kids appear next to the main one. (this move also grants superarmor so it can't be interrupted)

Side-B - Karate Man: This move has relatively quick startup time, instantly making the sound effect of a thrown pot from Karate Man as a pot is hurled towards the front Chorus Kid. If you successfully time your punch, it gets launched a moderate distance and a second pot is thrown at the second Kid. If you successfully time this punch, a rock will be thrown at the third kid, which when launched, deals great damage and good knockback. This move would be similar to Marth's Dancing Blade, since if you mess up the rhythm you won't be able to fully execute the three projectiles.

Neutral-B - Glee Club: This special would function virtually identical to the minigame from Rhythm Heaven DS; once activated, B would need to be held to keep the main Chorus Kid's yap closed. The first two Kids would let out their "AAH"s in rhythm like at this point in the video, then releasing B with perfect timing for the third AAH would cause their harmonious yelp to increase in loudness, creating a much larger hitbox radius that extends out pretty far in front and behind the singers. This move would have very high knockback if your timing is perfect, making for quite the appropriate finisher move for the Chorus Kids if used strategically or for edgeguarding.

 

[chronomantic]

I'm conflicted whether I want the Chorus Kids' iconic 'together now' move for their Neutral B or for their Final Smash. Both would just fit perfectly.

 

[KimmotMan]

This Link has Spoilers, so don't click if you don't want anything to do with that leak.

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/260805043

Looks like our little guys didn't make the release cut....However they were in Considered to be added.
DLC looks like it has a bright future in Smash, Lets hope They make it in for that!

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

This Link has Spoilers, so don't click if you don't want anything to do with that leak.

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/260805043

Looks like our little guys didn't make the release cut....However they were in Considered to be added.
DLC looks like it has a bright future in Smash, Lets hope They make it in for that!

At the same time, it's just a 4chan leaker, he could easily be making stuff up. I won't deny the possibility of course.

 

[TempahRelapse]

This Link has Spoilers, so don't click if you don't want anything to do with that leak.

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/260805043

Looks like our little guys didn't make the release cut....However they were in Considered to be added.
DLC looks like it has a bright future in Smash, Lets hope They make it in for that!

I don't trust that post. What does he mean by this is the final roster per se, does that mean it doesn't include all the unlockables.

Regardless I'm only believing this, when I see the recording of the panel, which I doubt any of those members would have the kind of information posted on that 4chan page.

What does interest me on the 4chan page is this. Probably fake though.

http://i.4cdn.org/v/1409455689878.png

 

[PSIGuy]

I'm starting to doubt that Chorus Kid's inclusion... Ice Climbers would indicate that Smash Run enemies don't necessarily need playable reps, there was no other RH content in any of the leaks we've seen... A shame, after Little Mac none of the newcomers really hyped me up, even though lots of them were interesting in their own right. A RH rep would've fixed that right up.

 

[KimmotMan]

I'm starting to doubt that Chorus Kid's inclusion... Ice Climbers would indicate that Smash Run enemies don't necessarily need playable reps, there was no other RH content in any of the leaks we've seen... A shame, after Little Mac none of the newcomers really hyped me up, even though lots of them were interesting in their own right. A RH rep would've fixed that right up.

According to my link I posted earlier, Ice Climber's are a high priority for DLC, after being being cut due to their technical difficulties, and Chorus Kids were considered during development, I think this is why we have the Polar Bear and the Sneaky Spirit in Smash Run. I think it still helps their chances.

We're not sure if this is 100% true though. But if it is, it's back to purgatory again.

 

[Hippopotasauce]

Right now I'm just hoping for an all-inclusive Rhythm Heaven stage on the Wii U.

 

[Jigglystep]

Um, guys, scroll down a bit. xD

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

I do hope there is one more newcomer and it is the chorus kids. They bring such an interesting concept to the smash bros games...

...Plus, I don't want all that time I spent watching all the gameplay videos and listening to music to just fail me now. ;_;

 

[Hippopotasauce]

I think that's sort of a problem that the Chorus Kids brought, people started to expect a RH character. And I did too from the Sneaky Spirit until just recently.
Let's not pretend that many people thought it was all that likely of a choice back when Smash 4 speculation first began.

 

[Jigglystep]

I think that's sort of a problem that the Chorus Kids brought, people started to expect a RH character. And I did too from the Sneaky Spirit until just recently.
Let's not pretend that many people thought it was all that likely of a choice back when Smash 4 speculation first began.

Implying it's not likely at this point? :L There's the Spirit and, well, the fact that Gematsu predicted Rhythm Heaven content before it was even confirmed. That, I find extremely difficult to believe to be a simple guess.

 

[Hippopotasauce]

Implying it's not likely at this point? :L There's the Spirit and, well, the fact that Gematsu predicted Rhythm Heaven content before it was even confirmed. That, I find extremely difficult to believe to be a simple guess.

Depends on your stance on Gematsu, but let's not argue over that.

And if Ice Climbers really are cut, then it shows that the Sneaky Spirit might not mean more than Sakurai knows the games exist.

 

[FancysaurusRex]

Have we seen the Polar Bear in gameplay tho? I know it was in a pic that got taken down, but I don't remember if we actually saw it in action.

 

[KimmotMan]

Have we seen the Polar Bear in gameplay tho? I know it was in a pic that got taken down, but I don't remember if we actually saw it in action.

Yes, they have. Sorry I couldn't find the specific video though. Too many to go through

Depends on your stance on Gematsu, but let's not argue over that.

And if Ice Climbers really are cut, then it shows that the Sneaky Spirit might not mean more than Sakurai knows the games exist.

It's just really weird to give them any enemy status at all in Smash Run. Might as well leave them as part of a stage or a trophy.

 

[fogbadge]

It's just really weird to give them any enemy status at all in Smash Run. Might as well leave them as part of a stage or a trophy.

agreed itd be very peculiar if just one enemy in smash run was our only rhythm paradise content

 

[Glaciacott]

Wait, why is this random person on 4chan talking about the roster believable again?

Couldn't any random person just say "hey y'all, I went to PAX and they totally just showed us the whole roster and answered all our questions about it two weeks before release and it looks exactly like the roster that was just leaked"?

I'm filing under bull**** until more information is received.

 

[Jigglystep]

Wait, why is this random person on 4chan talking about the roster believable again?

Couldn't any random person just say "hey y'all, I went to PAX and they totally just showed us the whole roster and answered all our questions about it two weeks before release and it looks exactly like the roster that was just leaked"?

I'm filing under bull**** until more information is received.

I honestly doubt they'd even disclose that much information in an event like this anyway, especially all of the characters that were considered during development.

Oh, there's also the fact that he admitted to trolling farther down in the thread.

 

[Hammer Man]

I shall support the vocal trio!

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

The trio is broken.

Meanwhile at Bandai Namco's QA Division...

 

[Jigglystep]

I was watching GameXplain's PAX coverage and heard an interesting tidbit from the Nintendo rep while they were playing Smash Run.

One of the guys playing mentions the Mimicutie enemies from Kid Icarus and the Nintendo rep replies by saying there are elements from every game, most likely referring to every represented series.

So, if every enemy in Smash Run is indeed from a represented series with characters..

Interesting.

 

[TheCJBrine]

Nintendo just keeps leaking

 

[Banana Waffle Deed]

The trio is broken.

Meanwhile at Bandai Namco's QA Division...

Chorus Kids to be very broken, literally.

I was watching GameXplain's PAX coverage and heard an interesting tidbit from the Nintendo rep while they were playing Smash Run.

One of the guys playing mentions the Mimicutie enemies from Kid Icarus and the Nintendo rep replies by saying there are elements from every game, most likely referring to every represented series.

So, if every enemy in Smash Run is indeed from a represented series with characters..

Interesting.

Well, here's hoping.

What do you guys think they'll make the Chorus Kids into if they're in the game but aren't newcomers?
I can't see the Chorus Kids being a Smash Run enemy or an assist trophy, but I could see the tambourine monkey from tambourine and some of the huebirds of happiness from flock step being enemies. So maybe as a stage hazard on a new Rhythm Heaven stage?

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Joining here as a supporter. I still would prefer Marshall alone, but no RH-rep, much less perhaps even more in-character to the three-man minigames in them would be sad. Hopping to the choir!

Also on Smash Run, interesting. I think unless we see an enemy not from any series represented, this might still keep boosting chances to see the Chorus Kids. Though I might suspect the possibility of cut characters in middle of development due complications (Icies and perhaps the Kids), but leaving the enemies from the series as some mementoish left-over from development.

 

[smashkirby]

I was watching GameXplain's PAX coverage and heard an interesting tidbit from the Nintendo rep while they were playing Smash Run.

One of the guys playing mentions the Mimicutie enemies from Kid Icarus and the Nintendo rep replies by saying there are elements from every game, most likely referring to every represented series.

So, if every enemy in Smash Run is indeed from a represented series with characters..

Interesting.

YAY! So Rhythm Heaven still has a chance for a character! (Personally, I'll be content with Ms. Rhythm, (Rhythm Girl), the Chorus Kids, Marshal or Marshal w/ Ms. Ribbon and Cam.)

 

[chronomantic]

What do you guys think they'll make the Chorus Kids into if they're in the game but aren't newcomers?

I think an AT status with a soundwave kind of attack would be great if they're not playable.

 

[Misery Brick]

So how would you guys expect the trio to play as? Like height, weight, speed, and range?

 

[Jigglystep]

So how would you guys expect the trio to play as? Like height, weight, speed, and range?

I could imagine them being lightweights comparable to that of Metaknight and Pikachu, and probably just as tall as Olimar. They'd also be rather quick on their feet, since the third Chorus Kid seems to be a bit hyperactive and impulsive going off of the comics and backstory in the game.

As for their range, I can see them being a mid-ranged character, as they'd likely have plenty of objects from various RH minigames at their disposal, making for lots of disjointed hitboxes similar to Game and Watch. Aside from that, I think the Kids would be somewhat combo oriented on the ground with lots of close-range multiple hit rhythm-based attacks, while their aerials would be longer ranged.

Oh, and just for kicks, here's a vague mock-up of how I think they might scale with the other characters:

 

[spd12]

I'll take a whack at speculating their playstyle.

So far, Sakurai and company has done an amazing job translating the essence of the newcomers and their games of origin into Smash (Robin and Shulk are both probably the very best examples of this right now).

How does one translate something like Rhythm Heaven into a fighter, really? In those games, you are instructed to react a certain way to certain cues, and only that way. It's not that unlike Punch-Out!! in that regard, except in the latter you can occasionally get a bit tricky/creative with reactions, where there is more than one correct way to deal with something. Not so much in Rhythm Heaven!

It makes me think they will not be that mobile nor aggressive a playstyle, more reactionary. I'd wager they'd in fact be highly defensive specialists, with interesting ways around others' attacks and maybe some very interesting variations on the concept of a counter... but have it cut both ways. There is an obvious lead-up to the attack via whatever rhythmic processes they use for certain moves, but what can you do about it when it happens?

So in a way I see them actually being more on the slow/powerful scale despite what will probably be a smaller overall size, comparable to Wario who is a small heavyweight with lots of mobility. I wouldn't know how to express specific moves as it is with them.

Assuming, of course, that the Chorus Kids are even in at all. I'd be all for it - the devs of that series deserve the recognition by having stuff from the games show up beyond just those Sneaky Spirits.

 

[Nano Banano]

At the very least, I think we're getting a stage~ I'm happy with that.. But if these little munchkins really are playable >3<... Man, this will be the best smash for me!

 

[BluePikmin11]

I was watching GameXplain's PAX coverage and heard an interesting tidbit from the Nintendo rep while they were playing Smash Run.

One of the guys playing mentions the Mimicutie enemies from Kid Icarus and the Nintendo rep replies by saying there are elements from every game, most likely referring to every represented series.

So, if every enemy in Smash Run is indeed from a represented series with characters..

Interesting.

Which is why I think the Chorus Kids are still coming, whether it be DLC or on the main roster.

 

[Glaciacott]

You know, I was just playing through the games in the series, and I'm actually surprised no one made a case for the Boxheads to be playable characters

I mean, think about it, they're pretty iconic, present in every game, they pu-pu-pu-punch!, rally with tennis rackets, etc. and it's one of those characters that just screams Rhythm Heaven when you see one.

But oh well, doesn't matter much xD

 

[KimmotMan]

You know, I was just playing through the games in the series, and I'm actually surprised no one made a case for the Boxheads to be playable characters

I mean, think about it, they're pretty iconic, present in every game, they pu-pu-pu-punch!, rally with tennis rackets, etc. and it's one of those characters that just screams Rhythm Heaven when you see one.

But oh well, doesn't matter much xD

Box Head Gear for Chorus Kid Costume! XD

I feel like the Polar Bear and Sneaky Spirits kinda hint that the Chorus Kids and Ice Climbers could be candidates for the first batch DLC characters. (Which I believe would be a free patch update if anything).

 

[Opossum]

So, that PotD gave me a bit more hope for these guys.

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

Wait, I don't see how All-Star furthers support for them. Mind elaborating?

 

[BluePikmin11]

It means the leaked CSS picture is incomplete and there are more characters to unlock, giving hope to Chorus Men.