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Advancing the Diddy Kong Metagame

Mikkelmann

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At the beginning of the Smash 4 metagame, Diddy Kong stirred up a lot of controversy with his infamous "hoo hah" combo. Not only was this an easy combo to pull off, it killed at very early percentages, making Diddy one of the best in the game in earlier patches. He also had a lot of mobility and was very fast with is aerial attacks. But after the patch 1.06 he was nerfed - the hoo-hah combo so many players relied on doesn't work anymore. The damage and knockback on several of his moves has been reduced- most notably his Up Air, Forward Air, Up Throw and Down Throw. For those who still want to play as the little Kong, however, NME Nanerz wants to help. In his latest videos, he talks about how to advance the Diddy Kong meta, and shows off some setups that you can do to help out your game.

Nanerz said that he's planning to post more every Friday, so make sure to stay tuned on his channel to see more. What do you think of this? Do you think that Diddy Kong meta will remain a top tier character? leave your thoughts in the comments.

Follow Michael on Twitter @AsuraHedo to discuss more about the Diddy Kong meta! :4diddy:
 
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SHiFT_

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The year is 20XX. Hoo-hah no longer exists. Diddy players must develop creative play styles to avoid the Ness b-throw and Pikachu infinite combo.
 
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Murlough

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My least favorite opponent to go against. Your HOO HAing will not be missed you little monster....
 

20YY SS | Saiblade

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Is this really news-worthy? I honestly don't see what's so special about this, there are plenty of videos out there just like this.
 

MonkeyArms

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I think most diddys will probably just stick to the hoo hah because it looks much easier.
 

Doruge

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"But after the patch 1.06 he was nerfed - the hoo-hah combo so many players relied on doesn't work anymore"

Is this supposed to be a joke, dthrow upair is easier than ever
 

Puppyfaic

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Really? Why are you trying to advance the meta of a character who has the furthest developed meta thus far?
 

Modular Zeal

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why would someone make this.... -__-
it is only going to cause more complaints....
 

KyroChao

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"But after the patch 1.06 he was nerfed - the hoo-hah combo so many players relied on doesn't work anymore"

Is this supposed to be a joke, dthrow upair is easier than ever
Maybe the idea is that DI-ing it is a tad easier (placebo maybe) or that it kills much latter and does not work well at high percents since dthrow puts the opponent so much further
 

J.P

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For me 1.06 Diddy is like Melee Fox: good players like Zero and M2K will be amazing with it while bad Diddy "mains" (90% of FG Diddys) will perish with the nerfs.
 

CNMNE

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Well, for everyone thats not Diddy, anybody have solutions to these aerials? I'm usually screwed if I'm not someone floaty and hard to combo on, even with this patch...
 
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IsGamer

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Meanwhile, there are quite a few characters that haven't received a solid meta, yet Diddy (character with the most meta atm) is given more explanation, seems legit lol.
 
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Gui JP

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Meanwhile, there are quite a few characters that haven't received a solid meta, yet Diddy (character with the most meta atm) is given more explanation, seems legit lol.
To be fair, getting beaten by a widdle monkey sounds like a fresh cup of insta-disrespect.
 

IsGamer

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To be fair, getting beaten by a widdle monkey sounds like a fresh cup of insta-disrespect.
I kinda agree, I don't really mind getting beaten by a "widdle monkey", since it's Diddy after all, but I feel he's getting too much attention right now, just a thought.
 

Phoenix502

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Well, for everyone thats not Diddy, anybody have solutions to these aerials? I'm usually screwed if I'm not someone floaty and hard to combo on, even with this patch...
I'm personally trying to work that out, but what I can say is that Air dodging is not something that should be relied on. Counter specials stall you in midair, so unless you're making a very hard read, that makes you even more vulnerable.

my best suggestion would be to challenge it with a far reaching or quick aerial, but until I know how far away that kick reaches, I'm at a loss what fighters are capable of such a feat.
 

Ultimastrike

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If anything at all, there's been next to no news about any of the low tiers for that matter.
 

1337Kai

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My opinion, the patch didn't do **** to Diddy. He's still broken, and so is Rosalina and the other top fighters.
 

Sonsa

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Maaan, that's great and all, but I really wish we'd explore other characters more often. Always hearing about new Diddy tech most ignore anyway to do more hoo hahs, would be nice to see some Wii Fit Trainer or Bowser discoveries, eh, Im just being whiny...
 

IsGamer

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Maaan, that's great and all, but I really wish we'd explore other characters more often. Always hearing about new Diddy tech most ignore anyway to do more hoo hahs, would be nice to see some Wii Fit Trainer or Bowser discoveries, eh, Im just being whiny...
I honestly am with you, there are so many undiscovered things for WFT, and she's one of the characters I use for fun sometimes, I kinda hate it when I don't know what to do in certain situations given her bad range on most of her attacks, specially when following throws.
 
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Quillion

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Hoo-Hah doesn't work anymore? Or is it that it deals less damage?
 

Darklink401

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Nono, stop that actually, we don't need any more good diddys

All joking aside tho, that dtilt to bair looks sick.
 
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