[2.6] Reverse Falcon/Warlock Punch Issues

[Nevergreen]

Has anyone else had difficulty doing the "turn around" in these moves? (Not B-reversal, the Brawl mechanic)

I notice most often when doing a "Flying" Falcon Punch at full speed that I just won't allow me to reverse the punch.

 

[standardtoaster]

We added the ability to do a brawl B reverse (the one that flips your momentum) when we introduced the multiturn on the punch in 2.5.

 

[Nevergreen]

Oh right, I remember now. Falcon Punch does not normally work like a projectile, haha. Performing the multiturn (or even a single turn) is I'm issue I'm having.

EDIT: Performing it while jumping, specifically

 

[Squartle]

I didn't play much Falcon during my first test run, but I distinctly remember being puzzled that I couldn't do the turnaround punch with Ganon.

 

[standardtoaster]

easiest way to avoid the "flying punch" is to wait a bit before trying to turn

 

[Nevergreen]

I didn't play much Falcon during my first test run, but I distinctly remember being puzzled that I couldn't do the turnaround punch with Ganon.

It's weird, I can actually do it more consistently with Ganon. It's still doesn't work properly every time though...

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

That's not a bug, it's an execution error.

 

[Nevergreen]

That's not a bug, it's an execution error.

I've tried every possible timing and Falcon still won't turn around punch at max jump height. I don't think it's an execution error, I've been able to do the technique since 2008.

 

[Magus420]

Holding the B button prevents doing the turnaround. This is so you can avoid turning multiple times while trying to drift the opposite way during the turn punch. Release B and be holding backwards by frame 15 to do the turn punch.

 

[Nevergreen]

Holding the B button prevents doing the turnaround. This is so you can avoid turning multiple times while trying to drift the opposite way during the turn punch. Release B and be holding backwards by frame 15 to do the turn punch.

Oh, okay. This is new for 2.6, then?

 

[standardtoaster]

same as 2.5

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Holding the B button prevents doing the turnaround. This is so you can avoid turning multiple times while trying to drift the opposite way during the turn punch. Release B and be holding backwards by frame 15 to do the turn punch.

Frame 15? What the hell is that? Sorry, but I'm not a computer like the rest of you guys. I count in seconds, not "frames". >>'

Anyway, I've given this a try and it's working just fine. I wish someone in the Social thread had mentioned trying this...Even though I honestly don't like the way it feels.

Thanks Magus.

same as 2.5

Funny, because I always held the B button while turning in 2.5b and I could still turn around anytime with no problem. If anything, it should stay that way instead of me having to release it for no reason. It's very disorienting and I tend to end up shifting momentum and flying the opposite way anyway. It doesn't feel smooth or even useful anymore.

But oh well. Seems like I'm having to get used to a lot of changes for all of the characters I liked and had fun with before. Well, except Mario.

I'll get used to it. Eventually.

 

[Squartle]

Yeah, it definitely doesn't work the same way as in 2.5. But I'll give the one-touch turn a try.

 

[drsusredfish]

Frame 15? What the hell is that? Sorry, but I'm not a computer like the rest of you guys. I count in seconds, not "frames". >>'

1/4 of a second in pm.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

1/4 of a second in pm.

Thank you.

Now maybe I can teach myself to count them.