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Weekly Character Discussion: Lucario
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lucario=fun : O
Mew2King
King of the Mews
in training mode, (possibly vs mode) at 166-999, Lucario is exactly twice as strong as normal, his F smash often kills at like 80 and stuff, and his moves do like 15-20 damage at a time at that %.
someone should make azen post, he knows a lot, but he'll probably joke around and be like, I enjoy forward smash.
someone should make azen post, he knows a lot, but he'll probably joke around and be like, I enjoy forward smash.
SamuraiPanda
Smash Hero
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I'll try to PM Blood Hawk, the best Lucario player in the midwest, for his input on Lucario. All I know is that he is ridiculously fun to play, and no matter how hard it is for him to KO its not keeping him from succeeding at tournaments.
the_suicide_fox
Smash Champion
Lucario is one of my mains, so I actually feel I can contribute something to this discussion.
PROS:
High weight - Lucario is RIDICULOUSLY hard to KO. He has a very high weight and I find myself easily living to 200% in many games. This is also good because it means he has the advantage, in most cases, when exchanging hits.
Aura - Like M2K said, at 167% Lucario's damage and knockback double in power. At low %'s, he can produce some good combos and exchange hits because of his somewhat high priority. As he takes damage, he becomes more and more of a threat and those combo-sih moves become KO moves. Also, if Lucario is down by a stock, he automatically gets a 1.2 damage/knockback boost. Likewise, when ahead by a stock or more he drops to .9
Aura Sphere - It's like Mewtwo's Shadow Ball but 100 times better. First, it gains strength as you take damage even when it's already fully charged. So charge up AS all the way when you are at 0% then take some damage and AS will get a huge damage boost (plus the actual size of the sphere will grow up to prolly 20% more). One of myt favorite tactics is to jump in the air to charge and cancel it with an airdodge. Using this trick, you can charge AS while avoid attacks. I also like to use the hitstun of the charging animation as a tricky approach, as I can interrupt my opponents attack and then cancel it just before I hit the ground to start a combo.
Extended hitboxes - Most of Lucario's moves have extended hitboxes AND also extended animations. His upsmash actually can hit during the entire animation, even though it doesn't look like he is attacking. His b-air is another good example of this.
Throws - Lucario's throws are all really good, either for KO'ing or combo'ing (depends on your Aura). Force Palm is a powerful throw if you can land it, as it looks very similar to his forward smash. A,A f-b is a good combo as the enemy will usually try to block the 3rd hit only to get grabbed. And if they mistime the sidestep they get hit (not very strong, but enough to keep someone from countering).
CONS:
Recovery - Even though Lucario has high weight, a walljump and wallcling, and an airstall (d-air) his up-b is just horrible. Yea it's fast and you can aim it, but once you start it all someone has to do is grab the edge to force you onto the stage. It does no damage and very hard to aim at funky angles.
Aura - While this is one of the best traits about Lucario, it can also be one of the worst. If he is down by a stock it will be very difficult to get a KO as most of his moves don't have enough power to kill until he is at high %. Once you fall behind it can be extremely difficult to catch up again.
Range - Lucario has no good ranged attacks. He has very few attacks that he can do where you won't be severely punished if you miss. Most of his moves have some recovery time. Timing and spacing are very important to Lucario's game.
Approaches - Lucario has very few good approaches against some characters. You can't just run in and start fighting. You need to be very precise with your setups and spacing in order to break through an enemy's defenses.
Overall I think Lucario is probably one of the top 10 characters in the game. He has a lot of good things going for him, but at the same time he has a few drawbacks that make some characters too good vs. him.
And just a final note, Lucario is pretty badass. I like the black and white one. He's fun
PROS:
High weight - Lucario is RIDICULOUSLY hard to KO. He has a very high weight and I find myself easily living to 200% in many games. This is also good because it means he has the advantage, in most cases, when exchanging hits.
Aura - Like M2K said, at 167% Lucario's damage and knockback double in power. At low %'s, he can produce some good combos and exchange hits because of his somewhat high priority. As he takes damage, he becomes more and more of a threat and those combo-sih moves become KO moves. Also, if Lucario is down by a stock, he automatically gets a 1.2 damage/knockback boost. Likewise, when ahead by a stock or more he drops to .9
Aura Sphere - It's like Mewtwo's Shadow Ball but 100 times better. First, it gains strength as you take damage even when it's already fully charged. So charge up AS all the way when you are at 0% then take some damage and AS will get a huge damage boost (plus the actual size of the sphere will grow up to prolly 20% more). One of myt favorite tactics is to jump in the air to charge and cancel it with an airdodge. Using this trick, you can charge AS while avoid attacks. I also like to use the hitstun of the charging animation as a tricky approach, as I can interrupt my opponents attack and then cancel it just before I hit the ground to start a combo.
Extended hitboxes - Most of Lucario's moves have extended hitboxes AND also extended animations. His upsmash actually can hit during the entire animation, even though it doesn't look like he is attacking. His b-air is another good example of this.
Throws - Lucario's throws are all really good, either for KO'ing or combo'ing (depends on your Aura). Force Palm is a powerful throw if you can land it, as it looks very similar to his forward smash. A,A f-b is a good combo as the enemy will usually try to block the 3rd hit only to get grabbed. And if they mistime the sidestep they get hit (not very strong, but enough to keep someone from countering).
CONS:
Recovery - Even though Lucario has high weight, a walljump and wallcling, and an airstall (d-air) his up-b is just horrible. Yea it's fast and you can aim it, but once you start it all someone has to do is grab the edge to force you onto the stage. It does no damage and very hard to aim at funky angles.
Aura - While this is one of the best traits about Lucario, it can also be one of the worst. If he is down by a stock it will be very difficult to get a KO as most of his moves don't have enough power to kill until he is at high %. Once you fall behind it can be extremely difficult to catch up again.
Range - Lucario has no good ranged attacks. He has very few attacks that he can do where you won't be severely punished if you miss. Most of his moves have some recovery time. Timing and spacing are very important to Lucario's game.
Approaches - Lucario has very few good approaches against some characters. You can't just run in and start fighting. You need to be very precise with your setups and spacing in order to break through an enemy's defenses.
Overall I think Lucario is probably one of the top 10 characters in the game. He has a lot of good things going for him, but at the same time he has a few drawbacks that make some characters too good vs. him.
And just a final note, Lucario is pretty badass. I like the black and white one. He's fun
Lucario is a total beast. Running with Life Orb and Swords Dance, he can decimate pretty much any pokemon in the game. Close Combat is a STAB fighting attack with 120 BP that rocks anything that doesn't resist it. Most faster sweepers are of little consequence with ExtremeSpeed allowing you outrun them for huge damage as well. Stone Edge in the final slot takes down bulky waters like Gyarados, but Crunch will allow you hit ghosts harder. Luc can also run a choice specs set to catch physical walls off-guard, Sub-Salac to get a speed boost for the sweep or good old choice band if you just want to hit things hard and get out... this makes him, hands down, one of the best Pokemon available for trainers...
... and he's pretty good in Brawl too.
... and he's pretty good in Brawl too.
I hate playing against Lucario because the whole idea with Sheik is wrecking people from 0-150% in a short time and getting that final hit, except that in the process I'm also helping Lucario achieve his victory condition.
That said, Lucario has deceptively good range and strangely lingering hitboxes.
That said, Lucario has deceptively good range and strangely lingering hitboxes.
I'm unfortunately not great with Lucario. The only tip I can really give is for beginner players (it should be obvious for everyone else) - maximize Aura by learning how live long through DI.
Oh, and throwing a second, or even a third forward smash, taking advantage of the F-smash's IASA frames, is really fun.
Oh, and throwing a second, or even a third forward smash, taking advantage of the F-smash's IASA frames, is really fun.
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Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Swords Dance
Close Combat
Extremespeed
Bullet Punch
Best used after CB tar makes a KO with pursuit.
Adamant
4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Swords Dance
Close Combat
Extremespeed
Bullet Punch
Best used after CB tar makes a KO with pursuit.
I'm guessing he just wrote it himself
Azen Zagenite
Smash Champion
=^_^=
I do indeed like forward smash.
And someone tell Simna to gtfo the Lucario board, only fun people allowed!
I do indeed like forward smash.
And someone tell Simna to gtfo the Lucario board, only fun people allowed!
Simna's annoying people all the way on the East Coast? That's amazing!
Anyway, this thread reminded me of something that may/may not need to be addressed which involves Lucario. But I think it'd be better off on another thread.
Anyway, this thread reminded me of something that may/may not need to be addressed which involves Lucario. But I think it'd be better off on another thread.
Kel
Smash Master
I don't know much, but what I do know is that Lucario has some amazing dodges. Namely, rolling. Lucario's roll has great distance and invincibility frames.
Lucario shouldn't really live to be 166% because of how bad his recovery is. Lucario's up B has some startup lag, doesn't sweetspot if you're holding the ledge, and has landing lag after he hits the stage. This means that if Lucario has to use his 2nd jump to recover, you should be able to get the kill by either jumping out and hitting him in his up B startup lag, or by staying on the ledge and letting him up B on the stage and hitting him back off (Like you would against Sheik in Melee). It's hard for Lucario to hit angles with his up B, and since his Up B does no damage, you should just stay on the ledge and see what happens from there.
Oh and his F smash is good.
A good counter pick for Lucario can be Luigi's Mansion. The stage is large and has many places to tech, so Lucario will most likely live to 166%. Also, Lucario's Fsmash covers the entire bottom of the basement on that stage, so there's a wall of priority that will give people trouble to get through.
Lucario shouldn't really live to be 166% because of how bad his recovery is. Lucario's up B has some startup lag, doesn't sweetspot if you're holding the ledge, and has landing lag after he hits the stage. This means that if Lucario has to use his 2nd jump to recover, you should be able to get the kill by either jumping out and hitting him in his up B startup lag, or by staying on the ledge and letting him up B on the stage and hitting him back off (Like you would against Sheik in Melee). It's hard for Lucario to hit angles with his up B, and since his Up B does no damage, you should just stay on the ledge and see what happens from there.
Oh and his F smash is good.
A good counter pick for Lucario can be Luigi's Mansion. The stage is large and has many places to tech, so Lucario will most likely live to 166%. Also, Lucario's Fsmash covers the entire bottom of the basement on that stage, so there's a wall of priority that will give people trouble to get through.
It's all about UP+B wall cling.
From what I've experienced, Lucario is a character whose moves come out a bit slow but have little to very little cool down lag. This means you can see his moves coming but they are hard to punish afterwards. Characters with counterattacks who play smart can have a good edge on Lucario for this reason, you can pretty easily see his move coming and initiate the counter to keep him at bay. At least, this is how I fight Lucario's. I try to get them while there moves are starting, rather than punish them after they've already thrown them out. Key word being try, as Lucario's moves are mostly really good.
the_suicide_fox
Smash Champion
New Yoshi' Story is an awesome stage because of this. Stages like BF, however, make this trick rather useless b/c it is so hard to hit the walls at the right angle to wall cling.
SamuraiPanda
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So, remember when I said I was going to ask Blood Hawk to do a write up? Well, he wrote like an entire essay that I think is definitely the best analysis I've seen on Lucario thus far, hands down. Really good stuff. The original font color was a deep blue, but it hurt my eyes to read, so I changed it back ^_^''
Blood Hawk is definitely a great Lucario player, and I think its pretty clear that he has an awesome understanding of the character. He's gonna go far.Blood_Hawk said:
Overswarm
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Sorry this is so late. First day of classes and I just totally forgot this!
Synopsis:
Lucario is a character with all the answers. Under a strong player, his blatant weaknesses can be seen as obstacles to overcome rather than obstacles that prevent him from succeeding. With his great range, priority, speed and (when at high %) power, this character can go toe to toe with any character in the game as long as he can prevent himself from dying early. Lucario is the very definition of "clutch"; when you are down 3 stocks to 1, it is very possible to make a comeback if you just land a few good hits. Add to that a spammable and chargeable projectile with the possibility to KO and you've got yourself a good character. His learning curve will prevent him from flooding the tournament scene, but he will always be a force to be wary of.
Synopsis:
Lucario is a character with all the answers. Under a strong player, his blatant weaknesses can be seen as obstacles to overcome rather than obstacles that prevent him from succeeding. With his great range, priority, speed and (when at high %) power, this character can go toe to toe with any character in the game as long as he can prevent himself from dying early. Lucario is the very definition of "clutch"; when you are down 3 stocks to 1, it is very possible to make a comeback if you just land a few good hits. Add to that a spammable and chargeable projectile with the possibility to KO and you've got yourself a good character. His learning curve will prevent him from flooding the tournament scene, but he will always be a force to be wary of.
SamuraiPanda
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I'm sure the Lucario boards will love Blood Hawk's essay up there. I know the SBR has been kinda busy again recently, but I figured Lucario would get a bit more discussion.
Everything after this post is general discussion.
Edit: Wait, I'll save this for tomorrow. Today there shall be a different character <3
Everything after this post is general discussion.
Edit: Wait, I'll save this for tomorrow. Today there shall be a different character <3
Browny
Smash Hater
OMG first
BH's essay is top tier for sure. im sure lucario will become mroe popular with time. by more popular of course, i mean his playerbase wont shrink as rapidly as every other character who all swtich to main MK lol. Also i honestly think his utilt is one of the best moves in the game while not being turtle, tornado, snake utlit broken. theres nothing bad about it... range, damage, combo potential, speed (5 frames omg) and lag (?? is there any) and of course it can KO at resoanable %'s when it tippers. I used to think his dair was his best move but despite it being an inpenetrable wall of damage, combining lucario ridiculous roll-dodge with his utilt makes it such a spammable move, even as an approach.
i think BH missed a rather important point... its possible to cancel the majority of the landing lag associated with extreme speed if you land on the stage at the very edge of its range. its possible to curve from directly below the edge on BF to a relatively lagless landing on the platform above. Its extremely hard to do though, and even practice wont make perfect. online its practically impossible.]
and nothing on the FPCG? uthrow-FP is inescapable for heavy + fast fallers at low %'s and easily leads into the FPCG. Maybe other people have found a way out but every time i play snakes, falcos etc they dont seem to be able to get out of the 0-50% CG :/
BH's essay is top tier for sure. im sure lucario will become mroe popular with time. by more popular of course, i mean his playerbase wont shrink as rapidly as every other character who all swtich to main MK lol. Also i honestly think his utilt is one of the best moves in the game while not being turtle, tornado, snake utlit broken. theres nothing bad about it... range, damage, combo potential, speed (5 frames omg) and lag (?? is there any) and of course it can KO at resoanable %'s when it tippers. I used to think his dair was his best move but despite it being an inpenetrable wall of damage, combining lucario ridiculous roll-dodge with his utilt makes it such a spammable move, even as an approach.
i think BH missed a rather important point... its possible to cancel the majority of the landing lag associated with extreme speed if you land on the stage at the very edge of its range. its possible to curve from directly below the edge on BF to a relatively lagless landing on the platform above. Its extremely hard to do though, and even practice wont make perfect. online its practically impossible.]
and nothing on the FPCG? uthrow-FP is inescapable for heavy + fast fallers at low %'s and easily leads into the FPCG. Maybe other people have found a way out but every time i play snakes, falcos etc they dont seem to be able to get out of the 0-50% CG :/
Tyrael64
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, I'm surprised BloodHawk didn't talk at all about the Force Palm chaingrab. That being said, the rest of his essay should totally be stickied in the Lucario boards. Way too awesome.
I'll also chime in and agree with BH's assessment that most Lucario matches are nailbiter clutch matches (I'm assuming "clutch" means where both players are at high %, where one solid hit from either player can seal the game). Also agreed with "down but not out". My motto with Lucario is "it's not over 'till it's over". I find him interesting because of the psychological effect his Aura has on me. With other characters, once I go over 120%, I start getting defensive and fatalistic and I'm already planning how to begin my next stock, since I'm already virtually dead, and I've mentally given up on that stock. But with Lucario, once I hit over 100%, all I think is "Sweet! Now I can kick some ***!".
Definitely agreed with Panda in that I'm surprisd the SBR'ers didn't give more discussion. But then again, after BH's essay, that kind of sealed the deal. There's not much more to say after something like that.
I'll also chime in and agree with BH's assessment that most Lucario matches are nailbiter clutch matches (I'm assuming "clutch" means where both players are at high %, where one solid hit from either player can seal the game). Also agreed with "down but not out". My motto with Lucario is "it's not over 'till it's over". I find him interesting because of the psychological effect his Aura has on me. With other characters, once I go over 120%, I start getting defensive and fatalistic and I'm already planning how to begin my next stock, since I'm already virtually dead, and I've mentally given up on that stock. But with Lucario, once I hit over 100%, all I think is "Sweet! Now I can kick some ***!".
Definitely agreed with Panda in that I'm surprisd the SBR'ers didn't give more discussion. But then again, after BH's essay, that kind of sealed the deal. There's not much more to say after something like that.
dguy6789
Smash Lord
Agreed with Hawk's essay on every account. Covers pretty much everything that needs to be said. Lucario's awesome.
Kasai
Smash Journeyman
One thing that I think a lot of people miss when using Lucario is actually the situational usefulness of his UpSmash. Although it may have short horizontal range and lag, it is awesome for mindgames (in a way)/punishing. It lingers so long that you can use it to bring out an air dodge (if someone is falling from above) and it will still hit them after they land during the frames of landing before they can put of their shield. It has good priority due to the tipped disjointed hit box and is quite powerful especially when at high %s. At the same time, if you miss, you'll have to act fast to avoid punishment.
It's a high risk, high reward move but if you are able to bring out that air dodge, you're usually golden. It's definitely gotten me quite a few "clutch" kills.
It's a high risk, high reward move but if you are able to bring out that air dodge, you're usually golden. It's definitely gotten me quite a few "clutch" kills.
dguy6789
Smash Lord
The best thing about upsmash is it's insane priority and how long it's hitbox lingers, it makes it quite nice. Cool down time is excessive though, which really limits it's usefulness in many situations.
Kasai
Smash Journeyman
Another very common misconception about Lucario is that his recovery is poor. Not only does extreme speed have amazing range (from below visible screen on final destination to the ledge), it can (with a fair bit of practice) be easily curved to fit almost any situation. It may not do damage but anyone who is decent enough at controlling it can definitely contest that it isn't a "bad move."
I have to say, not many character's upBs can take them from under final destination (not completely) to the stage while someone is edge hogging. I've done it twice, it's very hard, but its possible.
Overall, it sucks if you don't know how to use it, otherwise, its good.
Edit: also, nothing is more awesome than getting spiked by marth, only to meteor cancel, upB to the wall, wall jump and then proceed to edge hog said marth.
(extra awesome points if there are people watching to cheer afterwords)
I have to say, not many character's upBs can take them from under final destination (not completely) to the stage while someone is edge hogging. I've done it twice, it's very hard, but its possible.
Overall, it sucks if you don't know how to use it, otherwise, its good.
Edit: also, nothing is more awesome than getting spiked by marth, only to meteor cancel, upB to the wall, wall jump and then proceed to edge hog said marth.
(extra awesome points if there are people watching to cheer afterwords)
dguy6789
Smash Lord
Agreed Kasai. Lucario's recovery can not hit people, but it is very flexible in the amount of options it gives him for getting back onto the stage from numerous locations.
Samuelson
Smash Lord
FPCG is a little overrated in my opinion. I have almost taken it out of my game completely because if you miss with FP it equals a free hit almost no matter what. The only time I ever attempt this on a regular basis is against DDD, DK or Snake because you can chain them about 3-4 times then Uthrow them to a Utilt and that deals some pretty serious damage.
Blood_Hawk
Smash Lord
I'm glad you all liked my essay. I had some fun writing it, that's for sure. Also, a Thank you to Panda for posting it here.
I would like to explain why I didn't go into extreme detail as far as moves/move detail goes.
First off, when I looked at the WCD, I noticed that the WCD wasn't necessarily about all the stuff characters can do technically. It was a general overview of how they played and tips to being successful with said character. I pretty much just wanted to give a general basis of how Lucario plays (with a little detail on certain aspects such as pros and cons), not really go into detail about all the things you can do with him. My essay was just kind of an eye opener.
Believe me, I could have went on all day about the Force Palm Chain Grab, how great of a tool Bair is if RARed and used to edge guard, dairs ability to nullify ledge grabs, how ridiculously fast his tilts start up time is, and more ways to effectively use Extreme Speed for recovery purposes.
If someone wants to play Lucario bad enough, they will figure out more in depth moves that you can do with Lucario by simply coming here for help and explanations and researching Luc on their own.
I actually wanted it shorter than it was, so I didn't go into very extreme detail. ha ha. FP chain grab, lag canceled X-speed, etc would have been nice to include, I must admit. They just didn't come to mind at the time I wrote the essay,
I really appreciate everyones input and strongly advise that you keep doing it.
Thanks much.
I would like to explain why I didn't go into extreme detail as far as moves/move detail goes.
First off, when I looked at the WCD, I noticed that the WCD wasn't necessarily about all the stuff characters can do technically. It was a general overview of how they played and tips to being successful with said character. I pretty much just wanted to give a general basis of how Lucario plays (with a little detail on certain aspects such as pros and cons), not really go into detail about all the things you can do with him. My essay was just kind of an eye opener.
Believe me, I could have went on all day about the Force Palm Chain Grab, how great of a tool Bair is if RARed and used to edge guard, dairs ability to nullify ledge grabs, how ridiculously fast his tilts start up time is, and more ways to effectively use Extreme Speed for recovery purposes.
If someone wants to play Lucario bad enough, they will figure out more in depth moves that you can do with Lucario by simply coming here for help and explanations and researching Luc on their own.
I actually wanted it shorter than it was, so I didn't go into very extreme detail. ha ha. FP chain grab, lag canceled X-speed, etc would have been nice to include, I must admit. They just didn't come to mind at the time I wrote the essay,
I really appreciate everyones input and strongly advise that you keep doing it.
Thanks much.
OmegaXF
Smash Ace
Tell me about it. I've been hit many times trying to airdodge or punish this. The only thing that Wario can do is like Ftilt, but he only uses it as an anti-air move obviously, so I've pretty much given up on trying to punish it. Just get out of the way of that rediculous hitbox, then maybe try a boost smash if possible. I've killed more Lucario's with boost smash than any other character. After you figure out when those strange hitboxes end it becomes pretty much the only way to punish a properly spaced attack, before you eat an uptilt to the face.
Ones you do hit a Lucario of the stage, and he can't wallcling to anything he's is big trouble though. Edgehogging speaks for itself, but if he is forced to land on the stage (and his percentage is like +105%) a ledgehopped upair will always seal the deal. Any other character can just climb back on stage, and throw/hit him off again. At the very best you could land on a platform, but even then it's still pretty much a free hit for the edgehogger (maybe not on Smashville if the platform is at the right place).
I use the edgehog to upair combo on any character with decent landing lag on his Upb, but with Lucario you don't even have to time the ledgegrab. Extremespeed is an attack, why the hell doesn't it do damage?
Blood_Hawk
Smash Lord
Tell that to "trip happy" Sakurai.
Azen Zagenite
Smash Champion
=^_^=
I wish I could help, but I suck at coaching/teaching
I wish I could help, but I suck at coaching/teaching
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nice novel hawk
Mr.Victory07
Smash Lord
Wow, The Lucario boards jumped on this one quick
And didnt Sakurai know Extreme Speed has 80 Base power?
And didnt Sakurai know Extreme Speed has 80 Base power?
betterthanbonds9
Smash Ace
sakurai doesn't care about moves unless they have stab (that's also why he made DT suck).
Like usual, SBR and BH nailed it. Killing with FP feels SO GOOD.
And starting a match against a wolf up by a stock from the fpCG>fair>nair>gimping wolf with more fairs is great.
As far as i am concerned I think Lucario can be one of the best brawlers depending on the smasher that plays him. Lucario can change his play style at will through camping, defensive and aggressive playing, and comboing. This makes one of his only downfalls, the capacity of a player to switch his or her playstyle on a dime. While yes most of the time his up-b can be gimped it can be practiced heavily in order to save you that 1 out of ever 10 times you get hogged. The laggy (start-up and/or end) to his smashes require a player to think of when it is not punishable to use them and not spam the f-smash once they reach 100% (come on we are not sonic we have other kill moves). I agree with BH that Lucario does have a high learning curve and that any player who practices with him will only get better in time. Because of Lucario's ability to change his playstyle at any time he chooses is the reason why he controls the pace of the game. So in summary of this post just remember that Lucario is all about the mind games because the opponent will never be able to guess what is going to come at him when Lucario is picked in a tournament.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
Kudos to BH, couldn't have done better. My favorite part was when it had SCIENCE! in it (thats the cue to edit the essay and put SCIENCE! in it).
Quote:
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Samuelson
Smash Lord
^ O my sweet Jesus, what has humanity come to? ^
That reminds me of the Scientology episode of South Park where everybody started saying "O my science" instead of "O my god"
That reminds me of the Scientology episode of South Park where everybody started saying "O my science" instead of "O my god"