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Recent content by DeLux

  1. DeLux

    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    You can straight up chain grab through Toon Link bombs if you time the explosion with the first 8 frames of your throw - the frames with invincibility on the thrower. You just need to shield/spot dodge with the other climber and regrab. From a frame data standpoint, that is only possible via...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    Special side note: all of this is now optimal because of the no tripping code people have been using takes out the chance of tripping in all of the dashes in each route. Another straight cause and effect of the vicious cycle of the community "trying to improve the game by banning something to...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    Every IC that plays at the high level will know this situation I am about to describe because they will have lost grabs to mash outs over it: You land a Popo Dash grab on your Meta Knight (or other light weigh char) opponent, Nana whiffs, but because of some desync stuff, intentional or not...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    Small problem I figured out recently regarding this desync and consistency. There is a 3 frame window at the top of your jump at which point you can input airdodge or FF for this desync to work. HOWEVER, there is only a (1) SINGLE frame window at which you can input a popo action without nana...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    A while back, I labeled LD5 SHAD as being the same thing as the following: Short Hop > FF > Buffer Popo Dash on Landing > Desynced > Nana Option Short Hop > FF > Buffer Popo Shield and Drop during Popo Landing Lag > Desynced > Nana Option A few thoughts on this: The timing on this seems much...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    FYSA, if you are in that stalemate position where you opponent has whiff tech landed on the platform where they lay there for you to make a move becuase they are ungrabble: SND > Popo Jab/Dtilt > Nana Dash Attack (from the jab or dtilt) Cancel Grab
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    Ok, not to toot my own horn, but I think I might have the most famous super gimmick grab setup off the ledge when I played OCEAN the set before he beat M2K. In that set, i got him with the Belay > P S Ledge Getup > N Ledge Getup Attack > P Grab. i posted about a few that i would commonly use...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    Not anything particularly new, but I made a video version covering most of this thread: https://smashboards.com/threads/desync-theory-tentatively-complete.302248/ You can find it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZG9MKktWAg
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    Imagine this scenario, and I know you have experienced it because every IC main has- Your opponent is good at the MU and camps the sides of the stage to avoid the grab like a player camps the sides to avoid major damage from a Diddy banana lock. This works because it limits the room you have...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    One of the funny things that people like to claim without much evidence is that the recent trend of modding tournaments to remove random tripping on dash is a nerf to ice climbers. Trying to steelman their position, the logic is: "If the ICs trip, the person might have an opportunity to...
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    Also, you can try things like putting an ice shot on the battlefield platform as well! Just dont accidentally put your secondary climber on top of the platform or you have created a bad situation! 🤣
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    Ice Climbers in 2023 (And Beyond)

    So I've been doing some labbing on the MK vs. ICs MU. Especially on Battlefield, the meta sort of shifted around 2012 to be about MKs using the aerial shuttle loop cancels as a way to combat ICs. This is because worst case scenario, the MK might eat an Uair if the ICs get a fairly quick read...
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    Super Smash Con 2023 Brawl Results and Shoutouts Thread

    Salty salutes to ninja seeding me 7th, the most controversial but brave yet only 100% accurate seed compared to results 🤣
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    Super Smash Con 2023 Brawl Results and Shoutouts Thread

    We will see yall in grand finals
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    Super Smash Con 2023 Brawl Results and Shoutouts Thread

    You have it backwards. My memes and my olimar I learned from Fino 🤣
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