THE 'advanced' HTP video Thread (50% DONE) ZOMG HALF DONE!

[Wak]

Yes, since Qwester quitted his idea, i decided to take care of this awesome video idea.

So far, this is what the video will contains. (thanks to Qwester who made this list)

"I realise that it's fairly important I get this right.. as potentially it could end up teaching a whole new generation of newbs how to play[...]"

Actually, my goal is not to "maybe teach a whole generation of newbes how to play". My goal is mostly for the new players from this game, to teach them mostly all the techniques used by the advanced players and then ending up with much more "good" player*s

TOTALLY DONE!*

[401K]

mabey he'll let you use the footage he's captured? ill be glad to help, just any footage you get from me will be on digital camera and low quality -.-

[Relentless16]

tech chasing is a big one

[Wak]

tech chasing is a big one

Tech chasing is more on the 'mindgame' section and i don't want to teach mindgames

[Zander805]

I wish you luck on such a massive project. I'm looking forward to the final product.

Godspeed.

[Wak]

I wish you luck on such a massive project. I'm looking forward to the final product.

Godspeed.


thanks =).

and BTW, i repeat:
I am open to ANY suggestions, any help for my bad english. You could also be a kind of supervisor; a person who would see some parts from the montage and could give me feedbacks.

[stuntcuum3571]

Jumping out of shine and shield. WD both IN and OUT of shield. Ledgehopped aerials. WD back and forth(Wave Dancing)

[Wak]

i don't want to explain some specific character things, such as jump out of shine or wallbombing with peach or bomb jumping with samus. maybe in another "specific character techniques" video that i'd be proud to make if i manage to finish this video that i'm working on.

(wow, 1 sentense, 1 paragraph)

WD both in and out of shield was already in the list, as well as wave dancing, witch will be put in the wavedash video

[chesterr01]

Oh **** you wak, you stole my idea. =\

Well this is how I see it, in may I'm going back to Mtl, so we can go at nox's place and we can do all this schwag together, along with vodka. nox said he could take care of all the computer techno schwag and we could do the gameplay part.

If we have time, we could do mini-tutorials for each char. >_> That was my idea in the beginning.

[SmashMac]

You might want to get some of the moves that show instant edge hogs. For Ex. Yoshi and Bowser's Down+B move to the edge, Falco and Fox's Up+B to the edge ... things like that. Adding sweet-spotting would be good. Backlanding will be an awesome thing to add also.

[spKz]

not only did i have to wait for him to complete then it was canned i have to wait for you ¬.¬

[401K]

not only did i have to wait for him to complete then it was canned i have to wait for you ¬.¬

dont be like that Qwester took on a huge project and it was a little much for him, as it would be for many people, that is why we need to show our support to Wak if we want this finished, in the meantime teach yourself the **** moves... watch other movies and PRACTICE while Qwester was working on his i heard of Wave Dash for the first time and now i can do it pretty well, you need to teach yourself too, dont rely on everyone for everything

@Wak i'll help with anything you need me to! :chuckle:

[Bakuryu]

mabey he'll let you use the footage he's captured? ill be glad to help, just any footage you get from me will be on digital camera and low quality -.-
Highly unlikely unless he really quit it, he said he would finish it when he found time, anyway if you need help with footage I can capture stuff if you ask me to.

[Wak]

i get all the stuff to capture everything, but not all the ideas to show how to explain every techniques. so i may need people with different ideas =)

i don't think quester will finish his project since his thread got closed by the request of him...

[401K]

idea... the "How to play" guide included in the game is pretty sweet... like show a character... (im gunna use Luigi for this example) ok so he's standing there, the words show up "Wave dashing is... it is done by... crouching (show him crouching) pause... pressing X/Y to jump (show him short hop) and while holding down hit R/L in the air to air dodge (show down air dodge) if done at the right time you will appear to stand up and then start crouching again (show that) with just smoke comming from the ground around your feet (do again to show it) *note timing is different for different characters* now, if you hold diagnol and Wave Dash your character will slide along the ground (show this) go too far to the right/left and they will simply do an air dodge to the side (show this too) more on how to incorperate this later..." something like that...

at least thats how i would do it if i was making it, need any more suggestions just ask

[Troubleduck]

meh, if i were better at this game, i would have this video done in like a week =| . i could prolly record and montage some of the more basic things :

-Short hopping
-Fast falling
-Wavedashing
-Wall Jumping
-Shield Grabbing
-Edge Hogging
-Edge Wavedash
-Dash Dancing
-Fox trotting
-Dash Canceling
-Pivot
-Jump Canceling - Grabs and smashes
-Chain Throwing
-C-sticked Aerials
-Powershielding

unfortunatly i am not good at the rest of the stuff. i have a geforce7800gt that i use to capture straight from my tv so it looks tight. however Oblivion is comming out in 5 days so when thats released all of my freetime will prolly go to that.

[silversh4d0w]

Wak, the hardest part of this video will be the editing. You should include visuals beyond just text to explain the button pressing, you need images and/or live action of the buttons being pressed to show more accurately what it looks like for many of the techniques.

I made something like this awhile ago for my friends and never submitted it, and I've formatted since then, but I still have some of the images:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9906/intro32mn.gif

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9128/buttona01xk.png http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9903/buttona18dq.png http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7863/buttonl02bk.png http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7218/buttonl13zx.png http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3821/buttonx04ws.png http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6540/buttonx15by.png

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6006/controllerbg3mx.png http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3015/controllerstick7it.png http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1328/controllercstickbg5kj.png http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1963/controllercstick4oc.png

Wow these are really old... You can use them freely if you like, you'll probably have to make a B button as well. :P

If you need any extra help, I'll be glad to help you. I'd even make it for you, but this is your project now. Good luck, and god speed.

Edit: Now that I look at them for the first time in years, you should probably make better-looking ones, heh. Atleast the ones I put up gave an example.

[chesterr01]

Wak, the hardest part of this video will be the editing. You should include visuals beyond just text to explain the button pressing, you need images and/or live action of the buttons being pressed to show more accurately what it looks like for many of the techniques.

no? if we tell you to press jump then airdodge, just do it, you don't need buttons appearing like some kinda ****ty karaoke.

[Volasko]

Great idea, cant wait to see the finial product.

As for my suggestion, for your DI part, I dunno what u where planning on doing but I think it should incorperate the advnaced DI techniques, like Automatic DI, smash DI, double sticking DI etc and have expample of each (AR would help in this). If you were planning on doing that already then ignore my comment.

[Wak]

silversh4d0w, thanks a lot for the buttons image! i'd need it for the beginning only though because as chester said, there is no need to make them apparear for the WHOLE video

Volasko, the DI part was that i fear the most. I dont know very much about DIing except that you must DI the opposite way from your opponent most of the time >_> it would be really appreciated if you helped me on this part. PM me when you have free time.

[chesterr01]

In my opinion, and DI that has other words attached to it is stupid. I only use the joystick, I don't smash it, and I live around 190% on most of my stocks on FD. So bleh. We're gonna have to test stuff.

[Plomid]

jey can you find the song from the original one cuse that would be awesom

[401K]

i like the button appearing part for the begining that'd look kool...

Wak, you should start telling ppl what to do!! many people are willing to help and any help would just make it go faster!

[Troubleduck]

i thought the whole point of this was to make it look like the how to play video that plays when you leave SSBM on.

[Wak]

for the people who wants to help me, add me on MSN (or aim but msn is better for this kind of conversation)

[F8X]

Wak,I would like to help but I have no capture equipment, But non the less If you need help pm me I'm tring to work a trillian like thing but i have to set it up. Good luck and did you get questers stuff, He said he had like 230 gigs of stuff you it may save some time

[Wak]

f8x, i don't think he would compress all his 230 gig of videos to send them to me.

[Uncle Meat]

In my opinion, and DI that has other words attached to it is stupid. I only use the joystick, I don't smash it, and I live around 190% on most of my stocks on FD. So bleh. We're gonna have to test stuff.

Maybe if you knew what smash DI was, you'd be able to critisize it. There are a few frames after you're hit by a move where you can input directions. After these frames (generally there are a low amount of them) your trajectory is altered.

[F8X]

f8x, i don't think he would compress all his 230 gig of videos to send them to me.
LOL, But you know what I mean, bits and pieces of needed files :laugh:


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I also think the 230gb is what i'll get when i'll finish to record everything to.

LOL :laugh:....

[Wak]

I also think the 230gb is what i'll get when i'll finish to record everything to.

i only recorded all the techniques used for L cancel, as well as L cancel and i'm now at 7.99 GB of total video size (uncompressed)

EDIT: i might need somebody to record some videos in the "powershielding" section. PM me if you have EVERYTHING to record, edit and send it Via AIM.

[Nigzel]

Maybe Nigzel Can jump in with his in-human skillz?
<.<
That means AR, and a White string at the top.

300th post. yay!

[Qwester]

i thought the whole point of this was to make it look like the how to play video that plays when you leave SSBM on.
The point for me was to make a video explaining how how to perform certain techniques. The theme was to follow the how to play video. For continuity.

Urm, yeah - good luck and stuff. I might start work on mine again.. I just got pissed off with all the IMs from people demanding the video. If I wanted to spend all my free time working, I'd make sure I was getting paid for it.

[Nurok]

Maybe you should add a circle jump, or w/e its called(u probbaly already have it though)
Its when you jump(short or long, doesnt matter) and when you hit the ground, you do a wavedash(back or forwards). It helps with mindgames and such, and also for any player to make the opponent attack, so they can easily combo and kill the oponent.You know what im talking about?

[Zero34]

good list, i just have two things to say. first, DI is gonna be hard to relay the concept but im sure you will do fine with that. and i suggest adding IASI. its a very easy to show concept but VERY useful IMO

[Wak]

okay all went good with video editing (adobe premiere pro 7) until i discover that my video in question is only HALF of the size he's supposed to be. i'll show you an example:

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/9282/realfileadvp00017ik.jpg

That's what my video look like actually, my video at the middle of a really big black frame. can someone help me to know why is that happening?

[VgtPrncfllSyns]

Ahh... my friend had that problem, we don't know what causes it, it might be the way you compressed it, but we just went to WMM and forgot about it.

Maybe we'll do a few character specific things over the weekend.

We'll check the topic when I go over there, it wouldn't hurt to have some fun and capture a few things for you.

[Wak]

>_> problem solved. i can now continue my project!

[Nigzel]

Most of the PSing is done, and edited. <.<'

[chesterr01]

wak here...

i got a problem with my computer, i got a huge virus and i completely lost my hard drive >_>;;;... because of all the **** i DLed to get adobe premiere pro 7, GG wak.

not only i lost my hard drive, but i suspect my Email adress to be infected also. so i have to change my email adress. please just delete wak017@ because it's now officially a virus.

maybe i will be able to come back to SWF before april...

for the project, it's delayed .... >______________________>

-Wak

[Nigzel]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, well... *deletes wak017*
I hope YOU re-add me, simply said.