Roy vs Marth

[Wuss]

Do you guys think that their's anyway that a roy can beat a marth. Besides skill levels. I mean i tried to beat my firend who is best with marth so many times, but i can't. Roy just is dominated. Any takes?

[Grmo]

It's a hard match, considering Marth's speed. I think the trick is to land some heavy hits on him, but comboing is really hard. I suggest that you wavedash and roll to get out of the way, and short hop to avoid being in the air too long.

[sephiroth666]

heh Neo's Roy beat Ken's Marth :P

[RosterImposter]

I can beat my friend with my Roy and his Marth sometimes. However, if I faught a NORMAL Marth, Im sure I would win. My friend just dodges, dodges, dodges, grab->throw->fsmash. Basically all he does, I have a hard time trying to figure out how to beat that "strategy".

[The Great Marth]

roy CAN beat marth.........talk to SETHLON....or NEO.........

[ZMan]

Or me! I can beat Marths with ease with Roy! Or Ness...

[The Great Marth]

ness beating marth.........ahahhaha.


that would be funny.

[ZMan]

Don't underestmate Ness. He's a stone cold gangster.

[Lord Knight]

but comboing (Marth with Roy) is really hard

No, it's not.

You're main weapons is DED, D-tilt into N-air (or u-air or f-air), and your grabs. And mindgames. Just play smart to win.

[Smash G 0 D]

Sepiroth: Yeah lol Neo's Roy beat Ken's Marth. Probably just a fluke, I wanna see the vid though.

[Grmo]

No, it's not.

You're main weapons is DED, D-tilt into N-air (or u-air or f-air), and your grabs. And mindgames. Just play smart to win.

Just takes practice, that's all. I'm a really fluent comboer with Marth, but I find Roy's weight hard to control. I never play with him, so I just suck :ohwell: .

[Shade_]

Hmm in platform stages try to keep marth from getting under you, indtead you want him either above or right infront, also take advantage of Roys CC and down tilt, not often just every here and there, and counter his up B when he is recovering.

Hope it helped.

[Marthmaster_X]

Marth and Link are the most lethal characters in the game. And yes, Marth will beat Roy 99.9% of the time. The other .1% is if the Marth is a computer.

[Lord Knight]

Marth and Link are the most lethal characters in the game. And yes, Marth will beat Roy 99.9% of the time. The other .1% is if the Marth is a computer.

Link?

And no, Marth won't beat Roy 99.9% of the time. Whoever uses their charcter better will win. Marth just has a range/combo advantage.

I do quite well in this match (as Roy) by the way. If you're Roy is playing a Marth, and you get owned bad, then you shouldn't be playing Roy. :dizzy:

[sigma]

umm, no. thats like saying if you lose with youre favorite character dont use him.

[Grmo]

I do quite well in this match (as Roy) by the way. If you're Roy is playing a Marth, and you get owned bad, then you shouldn't be playing Roy. :dizzy:

I disagree. You should be trying to get better if that's that case.

[Eastlitree]

Marth is a lot easier to fight than most other characters for Roy. My only real problem against Marth is when I'm tipped off the stage. Tippers suck so bad for Roy. But you can avoid that if you stay in Marth's face as often as possible. >_>

[Shade_]

If you have trouble with a character you shouldn't have to resort to changing characters to beat them, you should find a way, then when you can beat the hard characters the easy ones seem way easier than they used to be.

[The Marth Master]

I Have Played With Marth For Over 2 Years, And I Know It Is Hard To Beat A Marth With A Roy. If I Were You, I Would Wavedash And Roll Out Of His Attack Range, And Wait For An Opening.

[narj]

Marth is better than roy (no comment)

[Grmo]

It depends entirely on what you're better with. Weight and power(Roy), or speed and recovery(Marth).

[mariomacdaddy]

Yeah and lets face it. Marth has a freakin awesome costume when he is in the white color. That has nothing to do with battling but I thought I would just point that out.

[uremog]

see, at least this marth vs roy isn't a big stack of scrubs screaming marth's better, roy's better, blah, blah, blah.

but i think the basics for roy got covered in like, the 1st page.
marth has some nasty stuff he can capitalize off of though, esp DI from grabs. i remember one vid where the marth combo'd the roy from a 0-low% grab to 80% or so because of platforms and DI but missed the killing hit i think.

[Alex13]

My Roy is up to beating Ian's Marth most of the time, but usually he cancels a lot of my attacks because right before my attack will go off, he'll hit me and cancel it. Roy's speed < Marth's speed...that little thing may make it tough for you. But you need to realize Roy's power > Marth's power. Get in some smashes and counter his Up B to edgeguard. Abuse Dtilt to get combos started.

[The Great Marth]

correction...MARTH has MORE power than roy.......i think roy has 2 moves that are stronger than marths,thats it.

[uremog]

as far as i see, roy's usmash >> marth's, his >B is way better and that's about it. marth's and roy's attakcs come out at the same time. roy just has as much as 10 frames extra lag after some attacks. l-canceling helps diminish this. if he's hitting you first, it's because he's attacking you first.

[The |Egg| Sniper]

I say go for Attacks of Opportunity. Do what you can to dodge his speedy assault and squeeze in some fast attacks (Roy's dtilt is a prime example, possible followed by an nair). Don't forget his lack of vertical recovery! Use this to your advantage when you send him off the first time. If he tries to sweetspot the edge, go for a dtilt and then fsmash.

[Sethlon]

But if hes got Spring Attack, then its really hard to get in a position where he'll provoke an Attack of Opportunity.

<.<; sorry, couldn't resist.

Down tilt is your best friend as playing roy in general, so you wanna hit marth with as many of those as possible. At 0%, you can forward throw to forward throw, and then tech chase for another possible forward throw. And then mix that up with the occasional down throw, which could get you a free, sweet-spotted forward smash. Down tilt to a jumping flare blade can put marth off the edge at medium percents. At lower percents, n-air to forward smash can be nice. If you can pull off a ledge hopped counter, and you manage to get it off when he tries to f-smash you, you can do some serious damage.

[Taj278]

But if hes got Spring Attack, then its really hard to get in a position where he'll provoke an Attack of Opportunity.

<.<; sorry, couldn't resist.

Down tilt is your best friend as playing roy in general, so you wanna hit marth with as many of those as possible. At 0%, you can forward throw to forward throw, and then tech chase for another possible forward throw. And then mix that up with the occasional down throw, which could get you a free, sweet-spotted forward smash. Down tilt to a jumping flare blade can put marth off the edge at medium percents. At lower percents, n-air to forward smash can be nice. If you can pull off a ledge hopped counter, and you manage to get it off when he tries to f-smash you, you can do some serious damage.

QFT

Listen to the man, his Roy is hot. :)

It is a pretty uphill fight to a point, but if the Roy is bold enough to get inside of Marth and stay in there with out messing up, then Roy can get it. Roy can match range with his side-b and flare blades, but it seems that the hardest part of the fight with Roy vs. Marth is definately getting KO options on Marth where Marth is clearly superior to Roy in this area.

[tehPhire]

Simple use the one hit ko. Most experts never see it and will be drawn in by it illustrious colors much like a fly to a venus fly trap. Most noobs ....well enough spoken my comrades =)

[trademark0013]

yea, u need to D-tilt ur azz off.

also, Neo's Roy beat Ken's Marth on several occasions, so yes Roy can beat Marth.

[The Great Marth]

roy can beat marth....DUH! but it takes NEO to do it..........so sad....... u guys dont understand that....

[tehPhire]

Not every Marth player is Ken so it doesen't always take Neo to win............DUH!!

[trademark0013]

^^^^^ exactly ^_^

[Broken Fox]

I was always under the impression that Roy was a Marth counter. . .

Roy always felt like he had superior priority over Marth, especially your fsmash comes into contact with most of Marth's moves.

Cover your l-cancels with neutral slashs and DED if you find yourself about to get sheildgrabbed.

PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR DAMAGE. If the Marth likes to use f/d throw - fsmash, figure out which direction to DI. At low damage, DI towards Marth to get hit by the center of his blade instead of the tip. At high damage, DI away.

Sheild-dash whenever you manage to block a fsmash.

SPAM DED properly.

[stuntcuum3571]

Marth should upthrow roy most the time. If Roy DIs towrd marth then...he is ****ed

[uremog]

But if hes got Spring Attack, then its really hard to get in a position where he'll provoke an Attack of Opportunity.

<.<; sorry, couldn't resist.

dood, marth's spring attack is good though
and he has so many threatened squares...
XP

PS: that was a comment on shffling attacks and grab range.

[Erasmo]

Well, to beat a Marth you most play in the ground, beacuse Marth eats Roy in the air, so wait in the ground until you can peform a combo.

Use a good mind game, remember that the combo start of Roy is the D-tilt, so when you lift him use the Nair to make a combo, if you do it about two times, the next time he'll wait an atack then you can use Counter and if he use Dair, the strike will be good.

Be carefully in the oponent damage, because when the oponent is very damaged Roy cannot perform combos, so try to kill him as much fast as possible. The best way is to take him away out of the stage and make Edge Guarding.

This may sound strange, but you can take adventage of the Roy's Sword tip in this battle:

The most times, I kill Marth hitting him with a Dair when he is on the gorund, but with the tip, so I lift him in the exactly height to perform a Fordwar Smash, if he survive make Edge Guarding, of course he must have some damage, about 70%. This never has failed me.

[roy2]

I can beat my friend with my Roy and his Marth sometimes. However, if I faught a NORMAL Marth, Im sure I would win. My friend just dodges, dodges, dodges, grab->throw->fsmash. Basically all he does, I have a hard time trying to figure out how to beat that "strategy".
One of the marths does is the same! Thats what we have learned to call the 'hup'. Its all he does, its really annoying isnt it!Im Roy & i win 9 times out of 10. The so called 'stratagy' is a display of a smash player with very little skill and them being cheap when your on the edge of a small level. So anyway yes Roy can destroy a marth, all you need to do is to adapt to the style of player.

[En.Ee.Oh]

yea and that marth player will -never- ever adapt to the roy player during all of those matches, but the roy only will continue to adapt and destroy the marth who obviously will not adapt </sarcasm>

idiot newb