docs pill rush?

[larg0]

i can tell the pill rush is the crux of docs gameplay, but cant find all that much info about it. one of the sticky tutorials had some decent info, but there isnt nearly as much discussion about it as, say, falcos shl.

my biggest question is: is there supposed to be so much lag after shorthopping a pill, or am i doing something wrong? it takes me way to long to get out of the animation and dash forwards...most of the time i end up jamming forward before the animation is over, then when it's finished doc ends up just walking forward slowly.

if i could get some more help or general advice for the pill rush, it would be great


-larg0

[Gea]

Hmm... this is an old clip mind you, and it only worked here because Tobias was dicking around, but it shows the spacing and timing. Just gotta be sure the pill will hit. Or go past them via an aerial, like dair.

But in terms of timing, this should show you it fine.

http://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1E0VBPQKNIA2Q1GR130U3W5W2W

[FastFox]

A nice thing to do when pill rushing is full-jump, pill, jump again, pill, then another pill. Repeat. It basically creates a wall of medicine, leaving your opponent open and stunned, ready for a straight-forward attack.

[Gea]

That is only true in very few situations. It requires alot of room and is easy to get under Doc as the pills bounce high. A good way to get punished in most cases.

[TobiasXK]

Yea, there's a big gap when you do the whole rejumped-pills thing, and it definitely requires a lot of space if you're planning on using it for approach. As just kinda a pillspam, it works alot better for varying height/bounce among other types of pill-throwage.

If I fulljump a pill and it hits, I'd rather waveland and followup without chucking out two more megavitamins and suffering the lag OR running the risk of just getting hit in the middle of the double-pill. *shrug*

[supermariopro101]

If I fulljump a pill and it hits, I'd rather waveland and followup without chucking out two more megavitamins and suffering the lag OR running the risk of just getting hit in the middle of the double-pill. *shrug*


I'd rather full jump to pill to wavedash to dsmash. Even if the pill doesn't hit or is shielded the dsmash will reach under the shield (excluding Yoshi).

There is too much space in between each pill that it is punishable against anyone unless used correctly and that doesn't mean just throwing them out there because you can. There are a lot more better options from what I just mentioned to the famous SHABALD.