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MaijinLuu
12-27-2005, 04:00 PM
Does anybody know how to chainthrow with Pika? is there any vids? i'm having problems trying to chainthrow with him/her. can anyone help??!!

white peachy
12-27-2005, 04:02 PM
which characters are you attempting to chainthrow?

MaijinLuu
12-27-2005, 04:04 PM
playing with my friends..........i would have to say:

Luigi
Yoshi
Ganon
DK
Ness
Marth

can ya help me? LOL

Zowayix
12-27-2005, 08:23 PM
Pika's dthrow can chainthrow all chars, from my experience.

MaijinLuu
12-28-2005, 11:34 AM
aight..........right on man, THANKS!!

Tope
12-28-2005, 09:46 PM
Pika's dthrow can chainthrow all chars, from my experience.


This is only true with no DI.

However his dthrow does set him up for an easy follow up.

He can chain C F, Fox, and Falco with his Uthrow at different percentages. CF from 0 - 100
Fox from 30-100 + and the same with Falco.

Echoist
01-08-2006, 05:11 AM
Pika's dthrow can chainthrow all chars, from my experience.

Ok, I'll try it out!

pkmvodka
01-18-2006, 03:34 PM
This is only true with no DI.

However his dthrow does set him up for an easy follow up.

He can chain C F, Fox, and Falco with his Uthrow at different percentages. CF from 0 - 100
Fox from 30-100 + and the same with Falco.



0-100?

no never.

Tope
01-25-2006, 08:50 PM
0-100?

no never.


If by 'no never' you mean 'yes easily' Then yes I will agree. Just set the stage to FD get one of your friends to play CF and then Chain throw the **** outta him, it's not that hard, and he can't so anything.

NJzFinest
02-01-2006, 09:19 PM
yea, chain grabbing (repeative up throws i mean, idk y down throws were mentioned...) is great on cfalcon, fox, and falco---keep in mind that pikachu has a fast/strong upsmash like fox and can finish the chaingrab with it, consequently leading to an easy KO. Just get used to JC grabbing and following DI.

AS Money
02-01-2006, 10:14 PM
how is jump cansal grab done people talk about it but they never say how it is done

GAmer1991
02-02-2006, 11:57 AM
how is jump cansal grab done people talk about it but they never say how it is done I did it by pressing up before grabbing while running, so it becomes a standing grab. Wasn't there a thread on this?

pkmvodka
02-02-2006, 12:00 PM
If by 'no never' you mean 'yes easily' Then yes I will agree. Just set the stage to FD get one of your friends to play CF and then Chain throw the **** outta him, it's not that hard, and he can't so anything.

falcon can jump out of it.

better luck next time pika pro.

N64
02-02-2006, 01:06 PM
by the time falcon can jump out of it, he'll be at a good 100+ percent. At this point, a nair could kill him (which, omg, uthrow sets up!) or in the least set him up to be edge-guarded.

The only things falcon can do to escape is DI to a ledge and tech on that (which isn't available on FD) or DI off an edge, but then he's vulnerable to being edge-guarded.

AS Money
02-02-2006, 06:03 PM
dude dont dis the pika pro your the idiot my friends main is falcon and he cant jump out of it you moron

thanks gamer it should have been obviouse to me but oh well

NJzFinest
02-02-2006, 07:46 PM
how is jump cansal grab done people talk about it but they never say how it is done
jump canceled grab....that' show u do it. press jump, QUICKLY grab. you do a standing grab while running- it starts faster and has less lag. so if u mess, you wont get punished especially since pika is screwed after his normal dash grab misses.

oh, and people, dont be retarted. the chain grab doesnt last that long on falcon if you know how to DI well (like slightly left or right instead of full), pkmvodka has a point. watch vidjo(pika) vs darkrain (cfalcon), it doesnt last that long but still AMAZINGLY useful and cheap to rack up damage around 70% which is good enough. cfalcon can chain grab him back lol, w/e. pika still owns foxandfalco with chain grabs since it last longer.

Tope
02-03-2006, 01:07 PM
oh, and people, dont be retarted. the chain grab doesnt last that long on falcon if you know how to DI well (like slightly left or right instead of full), pkmvodka has a point. watch vidjo(pika) vs darkrain (cfalcon), it doesnt last that long but still AMAZINGLY useful and cheap to rack up damage around 70% which is good enough. cfalcon can chain grab him back lol, w/e. pika still owns foxandfalco with chain grabs since it last longer.


The match that you listed wasn't a tournament match, nor was it anything important. It was simply a friendly, and if you'll notice Vidjo stops the chain throw on purpose. Most pro's consider it silly to chainthrow the entire match during a friendly.

While the chainthrow is more useful against Fox and Falco, it is also a lot harder to start. I find that I can't chainthrow them until around 30% or so.

And yes Falcon can chain throw Pika.

*Note - This video is also quite old, and Darkrain has advanced his skill quite a bit since then.

Tope
02-13-2006, 02:01 AM
Okay I noticed a lot of incorrect things I was saying so I would like to apologize, and also to fix them.

Fast fallers can only be chained till 70% otherwise they can jump out if they DI upwards, HOWEVER you can then plant an usmash in them followed by thunder for a free KO on FD.
At least it worked against KM who is like # 12 in the country.

Also if they do DI left or right you can continue the chain throw. It lasts a **** long time if they just mash left and right as their DI.

Falco can't chain throw Pika if you DI completely away, he just goes too far.

Hope this clears up some confusion.

Utilt + grab = amazing.

Crashmania
02-13-2006, 12:29 PM
there is no straight up DI, DIing in teh exact direction you get launched does almost nothing (except for the automatic smash DI which will move them sucha small amount as to not even matter)

Pratikah
02-19-2006, 04:38 AM
Pikachu can chainthrow fox and falco from zero relatively easily (no di) Use it with care, not abuse. Pikachus Usmash will take anyone once they reach around 90. Even as im typing this, im playing, and i just thought of something. Its a litle off topic, but youll see how i got there. Pikashus jump cancel grab. YOu dash, then press jump and grab ALMOST simultaneously. I got that the first time i tried it, thanks foxandfalco, but my point, from there. Those out there who are having trouble getting the knack of wavedashing, as I was up until this second, once you get the jumpcancel grab, do the same thing, the same timing, only with L or R instead of grab. Also a direction. So Jump then diagonaldown and R. It helped me a lot. Just thought Id share.



*Always shout Punt!*

DTbeloBrown
02-19-2006, 08:32 PM
vidjo(pika) vs darkrain (cfalcon)

I cant find this video. BTW, the search feature isnt that great. I wish it would take me to the actual page within a thread where the match is, not just the thread. Any help would be apreciated.

Tope
02-22-2006, 02:13 PM
I've got it, I can transfer it to you over AIM.

AIM - TopeIsGood