Enemy Problems. (-,-;)

[I<3Shiek]

I'm having huge problems with enemies such as C.Falcon, Ganon, Marth, Roy, and Link(not Y.Link,) I can't seem to kill them... At all. @_@;

Enemies that can teleport or quick dash, like Mewtwo, Pichu, Pikachu, and Zelda/Shiek also give me hard times...

And the worst of all is Luigi... @_@; He tears me apart, he constantly over prioritizes me on all my Air attacks, and he always hits. ; ;

I like to try and get the majority of my kills as spikes or B-Air kills, just because I find that the funnest part of kirby. @_@;

Help me out!! ;; Any tips on these pains? :(

[SAMUS XD]

do you now about the dodge in the air is whit L or R in the air or L down or R down

for the attacks of luigi





:kirby: rulz

[nitro-blazer]

I'm having huge problems with enemies such as C.Falcon,

Ok, Ducking is your friend. Hold down and Wavedash to get in. Get a D-smash if your feeling claustraphobic, Or D-tilt / Grab if its a combo you need. Try U-tilt juggles and finish with a fast U-air. Spikes work wonders, but you need to avoid his Up B.

Ganon,

He's heaver, and can kill you low %. Again, Ducking helps at first, only play to a more offensive if you are a little more expirienced. D-tilt/Grab is good for COmbo, U-tilt again, works good, but Kills are an issue, he falls rather slowly, so SPikes may not work, and they may get you grabbed.

Marth,
Ouch... Ducking won't help much here, but use the cutter to your advantage, try the SHAH as well. U-tilt combos won't rack up much considering he's floaty, but B-air combo's work nicely. YOu can spike his B up easily, IMO, but Try to D-tilt/Smash him out while on the edge. Avoid the air.

Roy,
Same deal as marth, except he's easier to combo and has a worse sweetspot. your tilts should keep you out of range, but agian, Cutter might work. Estimate the range, train with it. Be more wary with spikes or Bairs, i hate the blazer... Try D-tilts on the edge, or a shffled Dair if they sweetspot.

and Link(not Y.Link,) I can't seem to kill them... At all. @_@;

Avoid projectiles, Spikes are amazing, he's easily comboed, so...

YOu may need to give me more specific details on what you need help with, IE, Links Projectiles, or Killing Marth. You''ve said you have killing troubles, so... D-smash is one for edgegaurding, U-air is a Key COmbo finisher, Bair and Dair are edgegaurders, and D-tilt can stop them until you get the D-smash.

Enemies that can teleport or quick dash, like Mewtwo,

Can't help you here... :ohwell:

And the worst of all is Luigi... @_@; He tears me apart, he constantly over prioritizes me on all my Air attacks, and he always hits. ; ;
Duck, if your having trouble in the air, avoid it until its safe, Duck under then U-tilt him to a U-air. IMO you own him on the ground, so stick with it. Wavedash out of any Shffled attcks

I like to try and get the majority of my kills as spikes or B-Air kills, just because I find that the funnest part of kirby. @_@;

I personnaly like Hammer, cutter, grab combo's and U-tilt combo's to the U-air... :chuckle:

Also, you can't go wrong with F-tilt or D-tilt for Ground attacks, U-tilt for Combo, U-air for kill, and Bair for setup to edgegaurd.

[I<3Shiek]

Thanks a lot, Nitro! :D

You're my hero, along with omni! :p

[SonicZeroX]

Vs Mewtwo watch out for dtilt spams,tilts in general, wavegrabs, and aerials. Edgeguarding him is difficult, so try for upsmash kills ( I know it's hard but M2 dies real ez at the top)

If he teleports a lot, predict the teleport and grab him out of it.

Vs. Roy Crounch cnacelling does a number on him but dont over use it becuase he does have a CCC.

[LtFoeHammer]

I have problems with the Swordies too, don't worry about it. Sometimes I can runningA them, then follow up with a bair and a Ugrab or two. SHuair works really well, as does SHH.

I know it sucks, but there is not much funnier than groundhammering people. HAMMER OF JUSTICE!

[nitro-blazer]

Ground hammer... If the opponent expects it they can easily dodge and get you into a vicious combo or something. Plus, the windup and winddown lag isn't the best. It does feel good to smack 'em hard, though, doesn't it.

Btw, Nice sig LtFoehammer. kirby megaton punch?

[LtFoeHammer]

I think so, yea. I'm going to have my friend make it even MORE filthy though. I can't edit pictures worth crap...

Back on topic, that's pretty much the only reason I do it. And mostly only in multi-player games. That and the Stone just don't work for 1on1 that well.

[Silent Wolf]

Nitro Blazer, don't give him credit for it, I found it, and i'm the one whos gonna make it better! -Wolf

[Dr.Peabody]

one of the probs with luigi is his sex kick = PAIN!!!!!! >_<

alot of combo moves, such as dthrow, dont work cause of this.

however, on range and speed for most attacks u m=can match luigi, try a hit and run type combat... jump to a bair , lcancel, then put up ur shiel;d to block the sex kick, or dodge to the side and repeat process


u combos r ur friend for fighting falcon

with ganon, watch out for his up B. againt comps, u can wavedash back, and the comp with U B, then u can easily follow up with an attack (THIS WONT WORK ON HUMANS!!!)

cant help u much with marth or roy

link isnt nearly as hard as marth or roy, but he is a bit heavy -.-" airial attacks with be ur friend in most cases here. for killing him, try edge hogging, or intercepting him in the air with a bair or somethin
against a comp link, he will spam grabs like crazy. if u get his pattern down, he shouldnt be too hard to beat

(man im always getting trumpt by omni and nitro >:{ )

[nitro-blazer]

']Nitro Blazer, don't give him credit for it, I found it, and i'm the one whos gonna make it better! -Wolf

It looked like a custom sig to me... Sorry. ^^;;

Oh, my first post was referring to the CC kirby style mostly, however, Not all people play as this, its just a good way to start out. I for one play a little too offensively...

(Kirby style post is a reference to a previous Omnigamer post.)

[nightcape1]

Sounds to me like you have trouble with characters who have range or priority. In either case, crouching is your friend. WD from the crouch away from the characters, then use d-tilt. It has great range and good priority. Also try jumping just above a characters grab range and using a dair. This can set up nicely for a dtilt and another dair. Use up-b when you need to space yourself, and most importantly of all... never engage a skilled luigi in arial combat; you will be hurt... badly. Stay on the ground using the defensive tactics described above.