My State Crew Battles Idea

[viperboy_74]

I was thinking... we did regional crew battles at FC, right? Well what about going deeper than that? What about doing State battles? I think that every state should nominate its best 5 players. Each state is responsible for electing its own players however they want. In a few months, there should be a tournament held for just these battles. Kishsquared and i were talking about this, and he pointed out a few ideas. There is no way we can fit something like this in as a side in another tourney. For example, there is no way this will take place at SMYM. We could hold it in Champaign, Chicago, or South Bend. If every player throws in $10, thats $50 per team, and the prize money can be split between the first few teams. Since this is so important, maybe up it to every player throw in $20, collecting an entire $100 per team. This would obviously be a two day event, with crew battles everywhere... maybe even use the kish system and do 10 pools of 5 states, top 2 states in each pool move on. So how about it guys? What do you think?


AS A SIDE NOTE... WE CAN DO REGIONAL DODGEBALL AT THIS IS EVERYONE COMES!!!!!!

[DarkRoom]

That'd be pretty tight.

[viperboy_74]

kishsquared and i expected this to be local states at first, like IL/IN/MI/OH/TN and maybe a few others, but i hope all states do it and we get at least 25 states to enter their best 5 man team... find out which state is really better...

[teflon_climbers]

man. MN would rape you guys.

[dmac]

i like the idea, but what about missouri where the only smasher is darkrain, but he plays with us KS kids(we live on the border and are 40 minutes away from each other)

[KishSquared]

Dmac, the main reason for this is not to see which state has the best smashers, per se, but to encourage intrastate competition. Not all states would be able to compete immediately, like MO, KY, and TN. But by encouraging people to find each other and get together to practice for this thing, states like these could eventually make a solid crew and start competing. This is assuming these things are somewhat regular, like once every other or every third month.

I'll post later with more thoughts. Viperboy, do you think this should be moved to the midwest thread? Leaving it in the tournament room makes it vulnerable to getting locked since it's not a real tournament.

[MrSilver]

This sounds like a pretty cool idea. But since it seems to be initially focused on the Midwest I'll go with KishSquared's idea and move it to the midwest room for now. If it ever gets bigger and starts including states that are not from the Midwest we could always just move it back.

[MLRS]

man. MN would rape you guys.

**** that, you're fighting for wisconsin. who would we use if not you, element of fire????


can't wait to see the team EB puts together.

[Tink]

IN gots this in the bag.

[Zivilyn Bane]

lol, you guys are funny. cali's got this won. sadly, i wouldn't even be close to making the team.

however, i sometimes live in Missouri (my dad lives there). is there any chance i'd be able to be on DarkRains team? i'm sure i'd make top 5 in missouri.

where does DarkRain live anywho? maybe we can play next time i'm in the state.

[Tink]

tj, this could possibly be a main attraction for e=mc^3. you could get the hall for 2 days right? just a thought.

[viperboy_74]

See what i mean? look how much attraction is here already...

I think i agree with tink. This could be the main attraction for e=mc^3. I could probably get the hall for 3 days if i really needed it tink. the only thing is, there is no airport in paris. maybe people could fly into champaign, stay with marcus and AOB and come to paris thereafter?

This does appear to be more of a midwest thing rightnow, but i hope to see this all over the USA... Cali? Any input from you? between ken, zelgadis, isai, etc. i thought u would be all over this idea... what about husband/wife/oro? any input from you guys? someone tell them!

Ohio input?

i'd like to keep this with whatever state you live in, thats where you play.

[Drephen]

ohio would own everyone.

but yeah this is a great idea. i think it should be in IN cause its kinda in the middle. E=mc^3 sounds like a great idea. The only problem would be getting all 5 players for each states at the tourney.

[vidjogamer]

Its a good idea.

Obviously we could only do certain states against certain other states at a time as opposed to a huge thing with all the states (thats what it sounded like you were suggesting.)

What is e=mc^3 and when is it? i doubt i can go.

For organizing each team, there should be a team organizer.. probably someone on the team and state vet.

[KishPrime]

I see this as a nice thing to do on the Sunday after a tournament. But it's hard to provide housing for people and getting them to stay an extra day without housing is hard. Indiana would definately take the Midwest though. We have Ignatius256!

EDIT: Hey, why don't we do this on Saturday at MLG Chicago? A lot of the best players have Saturday off anyway, and most all the Midwest people will probably come.

[KishSquared]

I think this is a great way to encourage friendly competition in the midwest, as well as to fuel a desire to improve the overall skill in this region. I'm very excited by this possibility, and I want to see it succeed. Do you guys want to commit to doing this at e=mc^3? If we just schedule this thing, it'll happen.

Personally, I'd rather see a tournament where this is the main event, followed perhaps by a singles tournament. At first I thought we should restrict entrants to those that are in the crew battle (for the sake of time), but I think this should simply replace the team tournament. I would push to have a one day event that has this with a singles event afterward. We'll only have 4-5 crews, so a RR isn't out of the question. Worst case scenario, we do it double-elim. I don't think we have time for a RR-style crew battle.

I guess you could always make it a 2-day event, with a crew RR one day and a single/team event the next day. That's not out of the question, but with most smashers having school and jobs it'd be tough to hold a successful two-day event. I know I wouldn't be able to stick around Sunday night, because I need to be back home by Monday morning, ready to work! The best way to do this so that everyone can participate is to hold a one-day event. Start it at 10am if you have to, but hold a crew and singles tournament.

Vidjo is right, though, if we're going to go for this then we need to make team captains. Some of these are obvious who should be captains, but others are not. Viperboy, are you going to assign team captains since this is your baby?

[viperboy_74]

i'm still not 100% sure how i want this to happen. It can go any direction. i love all the ideas, having this as the main event with singles afterwords, and i like the idea after MLG Chicago, and i like the idea of havin this one day, and a regular tourney the next. I think the main problem is housing. Maybe we can talk to M3D about doing this after MLG Chicago on sunday? But wait isn't the championship thing on that Sunday? What aboutdoing this in Champaign, at the same location as AOB holds SMYM? We can stay wherever, between marcus and AOB there will be enough housing for everyone, and we can have this our own two day event? Like Saturday at 11 a.m. do the crew battles and the following Sunday, have a singles and doubles tourney?

I can assign team captain if needed, thats no problem. kishsquared u wanna help out a little on that one?
I know for sure IL will be Eddie.
IN - a kish or tink
OH probably vidjo
Missouri - DarkRain
Minnesota - not sure
Michigan - not sure
Nebraska (if the come) - FaceLoran???
Kansas - Dmac???
Kentucky - not sure
Tennessee - not sure
if cali joins - ken
Someone tell the TX smashers... i bet Rob$ and Caveman would like this...

So what does everyone think? After a tourney? Before a tourney? The main event for a tourney? Where, When? I'd like some more input. I agree with having this in IN though, it IS more central for the midwest... Don't forget to tell everyone around about this thread in midwest region.

E=MC^3 hasn't been announced yet. I'm Still looking at a good date at location.

[Jiano]

You can probably count KY out of this for now. There are only maybe 3 or 4 of us that are even decent. Our best player probably won't even want to go. But if for some reason by the time this tourny comes around KY has a crew(even though it will suck) I would probably be captain just because everyone around here is a lazy ***.

[vidjogamer]

The only midwest tourney i am 100% certain of going to is smym.

If we can find time, we should have it before/after a tourney.

Heres another idea... opposed to having it at any given event, we could have it similar to how most sports are done. Every state has a team. And they play the other teams at whatever tournies they go to. We could make like the SSBM league or something like that. The only problem would be teams not playing as much as others.. but if thats the case they just wont make it too far.. I still dont see it being that much of a problem because if you make it to one major tourney, you can play 4 or 5 teams. Obviously we would keep records to see how everyone is doing. It would also give people more incentive to travel to tournies, so they can get state matches in. This also give other players in a state chances to participate on their state's team. One person might not go to one event, strategy could make you choose one player over another, and since the event in its entirety will span over an amount of time, players have a chance to improve to maybe play in the next battle. Its just an idea. What do you think?

[KishSquared]

Vidjo, we can't make a decision just so you can be there, though your teammates may be mad :/

The only problem with having this after another tournament is the time factor. I'd be shocked if we could squeeze this in after SMYM. However, I also think it would be good to do a "kickoff" of sorts at SMYM, if at all possible. Everyone would be there, and it would get people thinking about the next event... hmmmm....

Jiano - We want to name captains in every state in order to encourage improvement and/or willingness to compete. By giving people something to unite behind (their state pride), it will encourage involvement. If you can't get a team together for the first one, you'll be inspired to get one together by the next time. I don't want to count anyone out, I want to name captains and see what teams show up. As far as I'm concerned, let's plan this thing assuming every state will represent.

My new and improved opinion: let's have this after SMYM4. I can't even guarantee I'll be there, but like I told vidjo we can't hold back for one person. Name captains and talk to each one personally, Viper, to make sure they're committed to assembling a team. Having a kickoff one at SMYM will likely generate interest in a second.

Captain suggestions:
IL - Eddie sounds good
IN - make it KishPrime for sure (if he's willing)
OH - Omnigamer
Missouri - DarkRain
Minnesota - not sure
Michigan - Definitely Jv if he's still playing, otherwise Dope or Teh Ownage.
Nebraska - FaceLoran
Kansas - Dmac
Kentucky - Jiano if he's willing
Tennessee - not sure
**Wisconsin - TeflonClimbers (is he WI or MN??)

KishPrime should have more suggestions, he keeps up with other regions pretty well.

[viperboy_74]

alright SMYM sounds good for now, maybe just do a few states... i won't be at SMYM though so kish squared your in charge. I guess if we do this the Sunday after SMYM i'll be there, but other than that count me out of that one :/. I think if we tape these and people like this idea and format, more people will want to do this. We can hold e=mc^3 far enough down the road that most states have a team assembled and can ask for work off etc I'm more worried that people don't know about this. i put a post in for TX and Cali already and probably will the East Coast later. Also, if we do this as a tourney of it's own, singles will be huge from all the people doing these crews and others that just come. This would make a really nice two day event all on it's own i think... KY, you'll be ok by the time that e=MC^3 comes around.. I'm sure most states will have to settle for mediocre teams...

IL - Eddie
IN - KishPrime
OH - Omnigamer
Missouri - DarkRain
Minnesota - not sure
Michigan - Definitely Jv if he's still playing, otherwise Dope or Teh Ownage.
Nebraska - FaceLoran
Kansas - Dmac
Kentucky - Jiano if he's willing
Tennessee - not sure
**Wisconsin - TeflonClimbers (is he WI or MN??)

[vidjogamer]

I just realized im the only member from my crew going to smym.. Oh well, I can rep the state myself.

EDIT: I refuse to have a kirby player organize our team. (no hate, i love you omni, but kirby =/)

EDIT2: I would suggest either myself of x1372(camper bob). We have been here the longest and know the states players the best. Besides, omni is busy organizing all of our tournies, making our vids, modding the hub and modding swf. Believe me, Omni does enough of our share of the work, for once, lets relieve him of some stress.

EDIT3: Did I mention i refuse to have a kirby organize our team?

EDIT4: Changed some wording. Fixed punctuation.

[KishSquared]

Lol @ Viperboy for copying and pasting my captain suggestions. Are you going to approach them all about doing this?

Don't feel pressured to do this at SMYM if you aren't going to be there. I didn't realize you weren't going, so that's why I suggested it. It's your call, but feel free to wait if you'd like to be there. If you still want to go for it, I'd put Prime or Eddie in charge since I won't know if I'm going until the week of. It really depends on how much planning is left to do for my wedding.

Also, I wouldn't push other states outside the Midwest to participate right now. Trust me, if this gets big, other states will want in. Most people won't travel so far just for a crew battle. For now, let's focus our efforts on the Midwest. That's just my opinion, let me know if you think otherwise.

We also need to decide on money. I'm a proponent of $100 per crew if it's the main event at a tournament, but $50 per crew is fine if it'll be after another tournament. We need to make it worth traveling to. If we ever want out-of-region states to enter, though, we'll need to offer a nice cash prize. Should we want to do that, we'd need to seriously consider $200 per crew ($40 per person).

I'm not opposed to putting you in charge of OH, Vidjo, but I know that Omni is good at that kind of thing. If you're up for it, then go for it. We don't need someone who's on the team to be captain, we just need someone who's gung ho about it and is willing to do the work to get a team made (fairly). Who organized your crew for the toe-to-toe with Michigan?

[HoChiMinhTrail]

how did tink get pushed out of the IN captain position :P

[vidjogamer]

Well as we all know, crew battles take a lot of strategy. I just think it would be wise for the captain to be on the team, as we need someone in charge of strategy.

[Drephen]

ANUJ FOR OHIO CAPTAIN!!!!!!!1

lol lets start deciding what the rules are and where will this be at before we start making captain decsions.

(Can't make it to SMYM don't have it there.)

[1337]

maybe im thinking too much into this. but here goes.

why not do regional state battles? like MW South West East and other(out of U.Sers)

ok so every state from the MW would play eachother, and whichever state wins goes on to play in the huge regional thingy. same goes for the south, East, west, and other.

Then at the next HUGE tourney(like FC) the reps from all 5 regions play eachother to decide whos the best state.

I know there are alot of flaws. cant blame me >_< im not the smartest person alive.

[vidjogamer]

ANUJ FOR OHIO CAPTAIN!!!!!!!1

lol lets start deciding what the rules are and where will this be at before we start making captain decsions.

(Can't make it to SMYM don't have it there.)


Doesnt matter if you can make it, you probably wouldnt be on the team anyway. =p

[MLRS]

there is no way in hell i'm doing this if you're charging $40 per person

[Phatgamer1]

Does that mean that me and darkrain will be the only ones from Missouri reppin our state?!?!?! O.o

[Tink]

how did tink get pushed out of the IN captain position :P

heh, its ok buddy. i dont want to be the captain anyways. i suck at this game. i prolly wont even be on the IN team.

as for the discussion on what event to have this at, idk about smym. has anyone asked andy? i mean that would be a first in my mind. plus were you planning on having it at smym? at the place or at like andys house after words? cause i know it took awhile to get finished at smym3. but i wouldnt mind doin it at smym4 at all. its just these questions that come up in my head.

i wouldnt mind doin this as a main event for a 2-day event, then singles and teams on the next day or like squared or prime said(im to lazy to look back) talk to m3d on doin this the saturday of mlg chicago. alot of people cant even play that day anyways cause they have enough points for sunday. which would free alot of people up and give a good reason to come saturday.

just some thoughts.

[KishSquared]

Trail - Prime was basically co-captain of the Midwest team at FC3 for his insane analytical and strategizing skills. You think anyone else could do this as well as him? I sure couldn't.

Tink - Why talk about being bad so often? Are you attention deprived or is it just that you idolize Vidjo? :confused:

MLRS - For now, the price will likely be $10 per person. We're only looking at upping it if we want to draw people from outside the MW. For now, we're keeping it in the MW, hence the cheap entry fees.

1337 - That's pretty ambitious, let's just start with seeing how many MW states we can get :ohwell: Right now I could care less about other regions, I really want to see this thing spark excitement and competition in the MW.

Some states may not have enough to compete at first. The point of this is to encourage people to practice so they can get involved. Some states will have one or two killer people and have to take a few people who aren't as good (like vidjo in the case of Ohio). This is how it will start, but I really believe that it will grow to the point that every state can represent. But hey, if you want to compete, talk to some smashers that you know in your state and get them practicing!

Viper - Should we limit it to 4 per state at first? Just so that it's easier for a state to get involved?

[DarkRoom]

Teflon_climbers is originally from Minnesota but he goes to college just over the border in River Falls, WI. So that would make him MN I'm assuming? Especially cause he started playing competitively while in MN (I'm pretty sure). Screw you MLRS, you can't have him. :skull:

[vidjogamer]

I agree with squared all the way.

Lets keep it in the midwest at first.

I think this will not only encourage growth and competition as a state but as individuals as well.

[Tink]

i like to idolize vidjo with his modesty.

but anyways, some places might not have enough players while others are going to have a overabundace of people. like OH, IN, and IL just to name a few. idk how were going to be able to work on that problem. maybe you guys can think of a way. cause i have a bad feeling alot of people will be left out that really would like to participate.

[viperboy_74]

i think i really like the idea of having this a 2 day event in it's own seperate tournament. There won't be enough room or time at MLG Chicago on Saturday becuase there will still be a tourney that day for the actual MLG. I'm thinkin of a 2 day event, the crew battles ($10 per person, 50 per team) on a Saturday and a singles/ doubles tourney on Sunday or late Saturday?

On the people issue, maybe we can work something out with some individuals moving to different states. I'd like to have everyone stay in the state they are from, hence the whole point of this, but if some states plain and simply don't have the number 5, is that their problem or should we fix it? Input??? Missouri has all of St. Louis too. Doesn't that inclued the Alton ppl? or is alton in IL? I'll start PM'ing the captain about this and find out if they accept... then we'll worry about omni or vidjo.

[vidjogamer]

i like to idolize vidjo with his modesty.



did i miss something?

[Tink]

yes you did.

[Omnigamer]

I wouldn't mind being Captain. I wouldn't be so sure of myself being on the actual team for my state, but staying at the sidelines and directing things isn't too bad.

[HoChiMinhTrail]

like not makin the varsity soccer or football team and them lettin u be the team manager, too good