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kailo34ce
07-11-2005, 04:21 PM
who wants to help me put together a kirby hat tier list ?

Rebel581
07-11-2005, 04:28 PM
RiTT. Kirby has cool hair now.

ac_anon
07-11-2005, 04:36 PM
Lol cool well samus hat must be pretty high up.

kailo34ce
07-11-2005, 05:13 PM
i was thinkin 1):doc mario
2)falco
3)jiggly
4)yoshi
5)marth
6)shiek
7)roy
8)icies
9)young link
10)mario
11)pikachu
12)samus
13)luigi
14)link
15)fox
16)falcon
17)ganondork
18)pichu
19)mewtwo
20)dk
21)game&watch
22)bowser
23)zelda
24)peach
25)ness

Fleur de Lis
07-11-2005, 05:41 PM
Why put Jiggly's so high? I personally never saw that move as all that useful...

ac_anon
07-11-2005, 05:52 PM
Also why is mario so high surely the charge beam or fox's blaster is better than the fireballs?

kirbstir
07-11-2005, 06:08 PM
Mewtwo's power is a hell of a lot more useful than Gannon's...

kailo34ce
07-11-2005, 06:35 PM
thanks for the suggestions...i will update the tier shortly...if you have any more suggestions please post em..and its not all about power...its about convinience

hydroswirl
07-11-2005, 09:41 PM
Jiggly is fine in that are, put Pichu a helluva lot lower, and maybe swap Sheik with Yoshi...

nitro-blazer
07-11-2005, 09:46 PM
Heres my tier list, this is just my opinion.

TOP TIER
Samus
Falco
Fox

Upper tier
Mewtwo
Doc
DK
Bowser

High Tier
Sheik
Mario
Luigi
Link
Y. Link

Middle Tier
Pikachu
Game and Watch
Pichu
Zelda
Ice Climbers

Low Tier
Yoshi
Peach
Jigglypuff
Marth
Roy
Ness

Bottom Tier
Capt. Falcon
Ganondorf

Now let me explain my list.

TOP TIER
Samus is up there, well, its a great projectile, making up for Kirbys lack of a great one. Plus, it can help against a projectile happy samus. With Fox and Falco, well, Kirby can SHDB with Falco's. and SHTB with Fox's. Now of course they cna reflect them back, but you can easily duck most of these.

UPPER TIER
Mewtwo has another chargeable projectile, but its not as good as Samus's. Its trajectile makes it go at random speeds at times. Doctor Mario's Pills, you can float, Pill, float, pill, float, pill, for an aerial assault. You can Pill rush, and cancel his with your own. DK's Gives kirby a fast finisher. It can easily be comboed into. With Bowser, you can still flame cancel if you have the right version. Since you'll be useing this on Bowser himself, its a great damage building tool, as his weight will make it harder for him so escape.

HIGH TIER
Sheik's needles are still chargeable, and storeable. There a fast, hard to see prjectile, and can be used to build damage up on sheik from afar, as if she get sinto you, you are dead. You can use the stun as well. Mario and Luigi's Fireballs are good edgegaurding tools for stopping there second jumps. You can also build up damage from a bit of distance with these. Luigi can easily WD up to you, and mario can cape, but still, these are pretty good. Link and Y. Link are only up there because thats about all you got on projectile spammers.

MIDDLE TIER
Pikachu's is fun, it can be used against sweetspotters, adn it goes quite a distance. Pichu's is only lower because of the damage. Game and watch, this guy gives kirby problems.This can help you stay away from him. Zelda's is a good damage tool, and its fairly fast. The last hit is powerful enough so you can recover safely. The Ice Climbers, not much to say here...

Anyway, the rest is basically self explanitory, thats just my tier list, i ordered them IMO. So...

hydroswirl
07-11-2005, 09:49 PM
Seems good. ^ Except maybe put Samus a little lower, and put Ganon and CF higher, their powers aren;t "that" bad.

Gimpyfish62
07-11-2005, 09:50 PM
Thats a pretty good list! Though I do think Pichu's should be bottom, whos gonna copy that move? EVER?

Oh and seriously... G&W should be top tier... not for use so much, but seriously, G&W Kirby is DEFINITELY the coolest looking character in the game. :chuckle:

nitro-blazer
07-12-2005, 01:18 AM
Only reason i have Falcon and Ganon so Low is, Its the same start up time, with around 1/4 of the Range. But then again, they aren't as nticable. Pichu is a fairly good technique. The damage isn't a problem, seeing as you will be facing a pichu, and they hurt them selves...

So now, we'll work on combining the two Lists?

TOP TIER
Falco
Fox
Samus

Upper tier
Doc
Mewtwo
DK
Bowser

High Tier
Sheik
Mario
Luigi
Link
Y. Link

Middle Tier
Pikachu
Game and Watch
Zelda
Ice Climbers
Yoshi
Jigglypuff

Low Tier
Pichu
Peach
Marth
Roy
Capt. Falcon

Bottom Tier
Ness
Ganondorf

+

TOP
doc mario
falco
jiggly

UPPER
yoshi
marth
shiek
roy

High
icies
young link
mario
pikachu
samus

Middle
luigi
link
fox
falcon
ganondork
pichu

Low
mewtwo
dk
game&watch
bowser
zelda

Bottom
peach
ness

=?????????

Heres an Idea, we can discuss each hat, and find out what Tier it should be in. Order? How about the Select character screen, IE doc, Mario, Luigi, Bowser....

kailo34ce
07-12-2005, 11:18 AM
thank(again) for your submissions...i am continuing my studies..here is what i have now...uh...hmm....top tier has got to have(at least) doc,jiggly..and falco..i will continue to study samus....ness and peach are bottom for sure...samus is higher than m2...and both links are higher than luigi.....marth is above mario...and shiek is higher than samus(for now)...i will continue making the list..

kailo34ce
07-12-2005, 12:35 PM
tier list redux

TOP TIER:
doc
falco
shiek
HIGH TIER
samus
jigglypuff
mario
fox
mewtwo
yoshi
roy
MID TIER
marth
y.link
link
bowser
c.falcon
luigi
LOW TIER
gannondorf
zelda
DK
pikachu
icies
game and watch
BOTTOM TIER
pichu
peach
ness

Tyle325
07-13-2005, 08:27 PM
Wheres Sonic? Hasnt Anyone Unlocked Him?

ac_anon
07-13-2005, 08:36 PM
I hope to god your joking

DeeDoubleU
07-13-2005, 08:43 PM
You all really think PK Flash is that bad eh?

ac_anon
07-13-2005, 08:46 PM
yeah id say pk flash is better thhan peaches toad

kailo34ce
07-13-2005, 09:43 PM
tyle ...bro...shut your face man...this topic is important....and i have moved up ness on my most recent list(not posted yet)...hes about even with zelda..are there any more problems with the list?

kirbstir
07-13-2005, 10:13 PM
If it's Ness v Kirby, I guess PK Flash would be a good edge guarder...but a better one would just be to knock him away far enough then jump into his PK Thunder....so Flash is really useless....

eMs
07-13-2005, 10:17 PM
This is insane...

But I would say Doc or Sheik or Roy Kirby's should be hogging the top tier.

AmishTechnology
07-13-2005, 10:20 PM
Kirby's default B and Yoshi's B are very good anti-shieldgrabbers. Move them up a bit.

kailo34ce
07-13-2005, 10:38 PM
kirby's default b isnt allowed because it isnt a kirby hat

AmishTechnology
07-13-2005, 10:44 PM
Oh, oh yeah...

kailo34ce
07-13-2005, 10:54 PM
i need your votes for the very top tier charactor
A)Roy
B)samus
C)doc
D)shiek
E)yoshi
...im sry if the charactor that you think needs to be the highert tier isnt here.....but im not a big fan of some of these myself...so..just tell me who you guys think by rating them from 1-5...(1 being best,5 being worst)

i think ....1)shiek 2)doc 3)yoshi 4)samus 5)roy

nitro-blazer
07-14-2005, 12:49 AM
Eeh... falco's hat is great. SHDB. But if hes not up then my vote geos smaus or Doc...

ac_anon
07-14-2005, 09:48 AM
Id switch samus and yoshi but thats about it

dr.d
07-14-2005, 12:54 PM
make doc one of the top and ya switch samus with yoshi

g-regulate
07-14-2005, 02:48 PM
in order of effectiveness
1.Samus
2.Sheik
3.Doc
4.Falco
5.Mewtwo

remember, in singles matches, you only have the power of who youre fighting, therefore the significance of the power you take is based on fighting that character only.

roys sucks, shouldnt be anywhere near top tier.

eMs
07-14-2005, 03:14 PM
Your missing the point of the whole topic g-regulate.... Go sit in a dark corner and count for 8 toes.

kailo34ce
07-14-2005, 04:09 PM
..nobody.....none of you.....did you guys even read what i typed?...i kinda wanted you guys to rate them from 1-5....just type
1=(name) 2=(name) 3=(name) 4=(name) 5=(name)

kirbstir
07-14-2005, 04:36 PM
Well, for one thing, not everybody agrees with what you call the top 5...why is Roy even near the top?

You have to fix this list a lot more before I'd vote...

And what point of the topic did he miss, eMs? Coming up with conditions and parameters with which to rank the hats sounds on-topic to me...

kailo34ce
07-14-2005, 05:14 PM
kirby tier list(unnofficial)
(TOP TIER)

(1)Doc
(2)shiek
(3)samus
(4)falco

(HIGH TIER)

(5)mario
(6)samus
(7)pikachu
(8)mewtwo
(9)yoshi
(10)icies
(11)pichu
(12)jigglypuff

(MID TIER)

(13)y.link
(14)link
(15)luigi
(16)bowser
(17)DK
(18)icies
(19)zelda

(LOW TIER)

(20)c.falcon
(21)gannondorf
(22)game and watch

(BOTTOM TIER)

(23)ness
(24)peach
(25)fox

ac_anon
07-14-2005, 05:20 PM
You missed out marth and roy and the ice climbers are in there twice and so is samus

kailo34ce
07-14-2005, 05:28 PM
oops 10 is supposed to be marth and 6 roy

nitro-blazer
07-15-2005, 02:18 AM
Marth and Roy... It probably won't help. There Range is pretty great. With Kirby the range is pathetic. Sure, its fairly fast uncharged, but still to slow to hit them without fear of counter attack.

Ganondorf and Captain Falcon Rarely use the attacks in there own game AFAIK. Kirby's is around half as useless because his has NO range at all.

Samus, Link, and Y. Link are the only things you can use against projectile spammers. Samus's, useful alone, doubles its effectiveness because of who your usign it against. You can counter her projectiles with it. Same wiht Link/ Y. Link.

Fox: SHTB.
Falco: SHDB.

Thats my bit.

kailo34ce
07-15-2005, 07:55 PM
top tier is done...its staying like that....im updating the rest for now....

Flamestar666
07-16-2005, 02:40 AM
I think that G&W hat should be higher up... at least past zelda...

kailo34ce
07-16-2005, 03:18 PM
im putting g&w right above bowser(zelda's has good ledge guarding btw)