Pillar of fire...

[NJzFinest]

worth learning...or even doing? same for the super wave dash

[UndrDog]

heh, you'll find that it works on some people. The Cape just held a SmashFest and I managed it against at least three opponents. and please people dont argue that these people must've sucked because they didnt. I find that it is worth learning for use with mindgames. Its also good to help you to learn about the properties of Samus' bombs.

as for the SWD, I find it useful in mindgames more then anything. you'll see a match of me vs Taxi, (not sure if thats the name he uses on SWF?), that soon be on DC++ were I use the SWD to try and squeeze in close to smash. however he did manage to get a dodge off just in time. grr... it can also be used to edge guard. a recovering opponent usually dosnt find you a threat to them while recovering if you are on the opposite side of the stage. SWD into a smash or PowerShot to send them to thier death. once you establish you can SWD, you can throw faking the SWD into your arsenal of mindgames.

[NJzFinest]

wow. i still need to do the pillar of fire....it's so hard....is there a easy way of doing it?
pillar of fire --- while under an opponent (so close that you could drop a bomb and it would immediately explode), drop a bomb. The bomb will explode and cancel out the lag from dropping that bomb. Drop another bomb and another and another... the opponent should climb into the sky.
easier way or better explaination?

[UndrDog]

no thats pretty much it in a nutshell. if you want to use it in a fight, then just keep practicing it. not much else I can tell you. =/

[The Cape]

Originally posted by UndrDog
heh, you'll find that it works on some people. The Cape just held a SmashFest and I managed it against at least three opponents. and please people dont argue that these people must've sucked because they didnt. I find that it is worth learning for use with mindgames. Its also good to help you to learn about the properties of Samus' bombs.

as for the SWD, I find it useful in mindgames more then anything. you'll see a match of me vs Taxi, (not sure if thats the name he uses on SWF?), that soon be on DC++ were I use the SWD to try and squeeze in close to smash. however he did manage to get a dodge off just in time. grr... it can also be used to edge guard. a recovering opponent usually dosnt find you a threat to them while recovering if you are on the opposite side of the stage. SWD into a smash or PowerShot to send them to thier death. once you establish you can SWD, you can throw faking the SWD into your arsenal of mindgames.


Dont forget Joker's SWD into my Mario's F smash. Surprised us both.

[NJzFinest]

can u tell me what it LOOKS like. like, i can only hit the opponent with 2 or 3 bombs and then they just fall below me. wtf. i dont raise or anything. in training mode, i throw bowser above me, jump, to down b right before he touches me, constantly press down b, then i falls below me. why is the SWD so much easier?

[UndrDog]

as I said before, it gets easier the more you practice. takes alot of time. and when The Cape gets everything up and going you should be able to find matches where I do both effectively. other then seeing it done I'm not sure what else to say. Wes may have some Pillar of Fire moves in some of his vids. and I know he has SWD in alot of his matches.

[Matunas]

If you want to see how it is done go and play a level 9 Bowser and get under him and bomb. Then just keep bombing. You'll see what pillar of fire looks like.

I can't however explain how to use it against humans since I didn't even know it was possible.

[UndrDog]

I saw a vid of what someone considered the pillar of fire against a CPU Bowser. it was slow. real slow. its not just laying bombs, one after another. you have to make sure you are inside your opponent. you have to stay almost in the center of you target. if you dont they can DI before you can start the next. its really hard to keep inside your opponent, but very much possible. as I said before I know there will be a vid at some point from The Capes Smashfest last weekend. and it was against a Marth I think. I'll post the vids name when the time comes.

[Jasona]

to pull it off you have to know the center of your opponent when they're in their stun position. Good luck starting it when they're in their normal form and continuing it after they change.

[Blazin Elf]

Is PoF considered a new trick?

[soberfox]

Not really, it's been known about for quite some time now.