Marth help!

[Nappydude]

hey! everyone I play as Falco ( i don't know how much time i have to say that) and my little brother play as Marth. He love Marth's Counter move, and i love to SH- spike into shine, i don't know if he knows my way of playing or what, but anytime i jump in the air, he jumps with me and uses his counter move as soon as i do any move. And can Marth counter Falco's Shine, when he did i was like ( dude do u counter everything), i'm asking u Marth players, is there a way around Marths counter or do i just have to change my playing style with my little brother?

[soberfox]

Heh, a way around the counter? Yes, it's very simple.

Learn how long Marths counter lasts. When the time frame where it will actually counter a move ends, attack him. Countering isn't that great of a technique, and is definetly not spammed in high level smash play. You'll learn to fake him out with it too. For example, if he is falling down, jump up towards him like your going to do an uair. When he counters, fast fall back down, then jump again and nail him with it.

[Nappydude]

it'll come in very useful, thanks. Now for his Dash, as u know Falco isn't the best recovery Bird in twon, anytime he gets me in his U-smash, he uses his D-smash, after my Bird friend gets hit so hard, Marth has time to do his run dash attack, or SH-nair. i never recover from those moves dude, i was wondering if i should try to use my Shine, since thats Falco's fastest move?

Originally posted by soberfox
Heh, a way around the counter? Yes, it's very simple.

Learn how long Marths counter lasts. When the time frame where it will actually counter a move ends, attack him. Countering isn't that great of a technique, and is definetly not spammed in high level smash play. You'll learn to fake him out with it too. For example, if he is falling down, jump up towards him like your going to do an uair. When he counters, fast fall back down, then jump again and nail him with it.

[Cloud Strife X]

Short hop laser him to death...it's annoying...and I hate it....and if you short hop laser me I swear I will kill you...O_O

But seriously...short hop laser to get in....shine combo to get out....

If he catches you...just DI and accept the fact that it is going to hurt....

alot....

[Nappydude]

tried it, guys! this Marth player is very good, but anyway everyone have a certain way of playing. I just sh N-AIR him if he comes close, know the long range that his sword has, i know that Falco's nair has more range than the shine so i use it, the shine works perfect closer. So i win almost every match play him, thanks u guys.

Originally posted by Cloud Strife X
Short hop laser him to death...it's annoying...and I hate it....and if you short hop laser me I swear I will kill you...O_O

But seriously...short hop laser to get in....shine combo to get out....

If he catches you...just DI and accept the fact that it is going to hurt....

alot....

[1337_Falco]

my easy way of getting around counter with falco is short hop at the marth, full 2nd hop, and down+A in midair. then i usually use down+B, then down+A spike. if they counter before you move, then run+grab...or just short hop laser. That's the scariest thing I've ever seen when I played as marth