Curious falco combo

[ChRed2AKrisp]

if someone had incredibly fast reflexes could they shine (SH)JC out of it dair l cancel to shine JC etc. until u get to they edge and they R spiked.
Rebel581 tells me that even if u did heve fast enough reflexes that the opponent could tech out of it. Do I need a second opinion or am I just being overly optimistic? :D

[Hoefler]

With fast enough reflexs, my StarCraft avatar brandishing friend, one could do a number of things, this included.

I can see you.. umm.. like to incorporate this Rebel581 in to you posts.

Interesting.

[ChRed2AKrisp]

Originally posted by 311
With fast enough reflexs, my StarCraft avatar brandishing friend, one could do a number of things, this included.

I can see you.. umm.. like to incorporate this Rebel581 in to you posts.

Interesting.

well, he does happen to be a friend I smash w/ alot,
if I was unaware of your nature I would say I know him personally :P but I think I can predict what the results would be. I'm asking 4 opinions that apply to the subject at hand. And no u r not allowed to misinterperate that last remark.

[Rebel581]

I'm not talking about human reflexes. If the whole game was based on human reflexes by themselves of characters going as fast as your reflexes, Bowser's now top tier. I'm saying that the lag would make it so that it wouldn't be possible. I could understand if Falco's dair had the same knockback like Fox's but it doesn't. Since it's a spike it knocks them upwards. Although it might possibly work if they are at low percentage, that would be the only time.

So I'm not sure if this could work but it wouldn't be able to work on floaty characters at all probably and fast fallers at higher percentages. Either way it can be shield-grabbed (although possibly not if the shine comes out fast enough). So I'm not sure. Go for it. I still don't understand fully how you could triple shine in the first place, it seems like one of those low percentage only things.

So basically I typed a lot and said nothing >_> I hate it when I do that. Just try it, you might be able to DI out of the dair after it hits and tech and that would screw it up completely.

[ChRed2AKrisp]

I agree. u might have said more by banging ur head on the keyboard.:chuckle:

[Rebel581]

That post actually got through? While I was posting it my power went out and I couldn't reconnect to smashboards. Wierd.

[soberfox]

Yes, chaining shine dair shine dair is a very common Falco combo.

[cHaNg-sTa]

I seriously doubt that will ever work.

Even if the Falco has the ability to short hop the shine as soon as possible and execute the dair as fast as possible, too many other variables will stop it like teching or even the slightest DI can mess it up.

But.. that can never happen considering Falco has a slow jumping speed making it impossible to connect the shine with another dair before the opponent is too high.

[soberfox]

I was referring to chaing jull jumped fast falled dairs and shines. That most definetly can be done.

[Cubed64]

This combo is very very very common, however it only works on a few characters. The Fast fallers, and i find mewtwo and G&W are rather raped b this move.

However, no matter how quick your reflexes are, you cannot shine+dair combo all the way to the edge of the stage and then spike your opponent, especially with a human controlling the other character. By the time you jump out of the shine, your opponent can DI away from you and then FF to the ground and tech away. Or your opponent can crouch cancel the shine and screw up your timing.

But shine+bair is a good finisher move, nice for KO's and getting your opponent off the edge to edgeguard.

[soberfox]

Yeah, I can't say I've ever seen anyone do it all the way across a level and then spike their opponent. But that's not what this was meant to be used for. It's just a good way to rack up damage with an awesome looking flashy combo. Not as like a cheap kill tactic that couldn't be escaped..even though it's not one of those at all...

[cHaNg-sTa]

I was responding to the topic creator actually.

In the way he described it

"if someone had incredibly fast reflexes could they shine (SH)JC out of it dair l cancel to shine JC etc"

That means if sumone could shine then SH (shorthop) out of the shine and dair the person before the opponent is too high for the short hopped spike to hit immediately afterwards... unless he told it wrong/I interpretted it wrong.

Of course it's possible to do a simple shine spike combo with Falco which requires not much "incredibly fast reflexes", but the way he described is not possible

[ChRed2AKrisp]

I guess ur right chang-sta.
not possible.
it would be way cool if that worked though.
a falco infinite combo on flat stages that always spiked....that would be THE best.
too bad though:(

[Zanguzen]

I've constantly dreamt of that exact same combo working. Then I would wake up in the morning, eager to try it out, and.....well, what do you think? (In other words, no, it doesn't work).